[quote]rasturai wrote:
don’t change anything than grindovermatter…when you feel you have plateaued with that…give BBB a try. Got week 3 comin up jo3…i AM scared haha.[/quote]
Ya im Day 6 of Week 2 now lol its my 2 Back Squat days that scare me lol the rest i can get over 
Also Rast did you completely change the exercises or just vary 1 or 2, i thought it was frowned on to start chopping and changing in the middle of a ramp ?
[quote]jo3 wrote:
Congrats man. I’ve only gained about 5-7 lbs since starting, but I plan on eating more starting next week. Also, I’m more interested in a recomp than adding pure mass. If I’ve gained a good amount of muscle, I’m content 
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We are eating about the same what i can see
Though before 3 weeks ago all i had was crap and more crap so my body must be in heaven with all the good food LOL
And enjoy the 3 weeks of relaxing lol hope you gain alot more !
[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Otherwise I’d personally do 2 thickness moves (probably both BB rows or Kroc rows or whatever, mon and fri) and one width… Shoulder health.
Ya i’m going to have to switch out the Seated T-Bar Rows as i didn’t see this when i started.
I have Dumbell Rows Mon and Fri, so another row won’t be any good…
What do you think of those Rack Pull-Ups they look well good and limitless progression ?
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Rack Chins are great. You just gotta figure out how to get them right, first. Most don’t like them the first few times, but you’ll end up liking them eventually.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SmallToBig wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Otherwise I’d personally do 2 thickness moves (probably both BB rows or Kroc rows or whatever, mon and fri) and one width… Shoulder health.
Ya i’m going to have to switch out the Seated T-Bar Rows as i didn’t see this when i started.
I have Dumbell Rows Mon and Fri, so another row won’t be any good…
What do you think of those Rack Pull-Ups they look well good and limitless progression ?
Rack Chins are great. You just gotta figure out how to get them right, first. Most don’t like them the first few times, but you’ll end up liking them eventually.
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Righteo might go in Sunday on my Day off and mess around with it see if i can’t get it right.
Best video i have seen so far in how to set them up
I broke out my BBB book yesterday. Lo and behold, some pages are gone. I had one of only two copies for the cluster of guys that all started the program in 95. We would spread the pages amongst ourselves to save on cash. I am missing pages 57-68. Looks like the entire 4 day program section. My guess is that Jimmy and Randy lost my pages years ago. I did the 6 day program with Jeff. Any way that someone can hook me up with these pages? Don’t want to buy another copy for a dozen pages but…
Best,
DH
LOL im like a stalker.in case you don’t go to the other BBB thread…here’s the book online DH…just click over to page 57 and your there…Dejavu lol
http://www.slideshare.net/guest5ff101/big-beyond-belief
After looking at that link rasturai looks like a very decent program! very interesting stuff for sure.
Thanks again. Now get out of my bushes, man. ;0
DH
[quote]rasturai wrote:
LOL im like a stalker.in case you don’t go to the other BBB thread…here’s the book online DH…just click over to page 57 and your there…Dejavu lol
http://www.slideshare.net/guest5ff101/big-beyond-belief[/quote]
[quote]rasturai wrote:
don’t change anything than grindovermatter…when you feel you have plateaued with that…give BBB a try. Got week 3 comin up jo3…i AM scared haha.[/quote]
dont plan on it anytime soon…ive been setting big PR’s every week, i guess i still have a lot of newb gains to be made. Ive been doing regular bodybuilding ramping style training, coupled with EATING…gained a little bit of fat but a good amount of muscle as well.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
LOL im like a stalker.in case you don’t go to the other BBB thread…here’s the book online DH…just click over to page 57 and your there…Dejavu lol
http://www.slideshare.net/guest5ff101/big-beyond-belief[/quote]
I wish you had posted that before I bought the E book!
yaeh just stick with it until you feel you want to change it up, or become bored. I was actually on a program starting to make not bad gains…but I swithced just from always doin the same shit. So I just switched to BBB…I was tired of just doing 3 rep maxes week in and week out.
This is a nice change of pace and challenging, and I can still go heavy and try to beat last weeks weight…and it doesn’t have to be a 3rm, feels good lol.
LOL sharp…it was actually posted in the original BBB thread I think in the 2nd page. Modok had told me about it, and yeah I wasn’t the one who found the link…but have been sending the link to people who wanna give it a try…I think a lot of people missed his post where he found the link lol.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
Hey CC if you don’t mind could you look at my template. Like I said I’m goin into the 3rd week of the ramp now.
I was also concerned with the little back work, but yeah…check it out if you don’t mind :).
Day 1 - 13-15 reps
Back: Bent Over Rows
Chest: Bench Press
Bicep: Hammer Curls
Calf: DB’s in hand on platform (all i got i train in my basement)
Day 2 - 13-15 reps
Delts - DB Military Press
Tricep - Close grip Bench Press
Thighs - Squats
Abs - Hanging Leg Raise (shins touch bar) add 1-3lb weight if too easy…but doubt it lol.
Day 3 - 10-12 reps
Back - Deadlifts
Chest - Incline Bench Press
Thighs - Glute Ham Raises
Delts - Rear Delt Raises
Calves - DB’s on platform
Bicep - One Arm Curls
Tricep - Skullcrushers
Day 4 - 8-10 reps
Thighs - Squat
Chest - Bench Press
Back - Pull ups (with weight)
Delts - Military Press
Calf - DB Calf Raise
Tricep - Close grip bench press
Bicep - BB Curls
I showed Modok and he said it was good[/quote] And you don’t trust him or what? lol
The 4-way seems like a lot on the third and fourth day, esp. with squats and deads so close… Good luck! Consider your scapular and shoulder motion on rowing exercises… Made a post about it in the bbb thread I believe…[quote]. For the Delts on Wednesday I know I coulda put upright rows to get stronger in the movement…but I just want my sohulders to be healthy cause it’s quite a bit of pressing already and I’m goin fairly heavy with everythin.
So I’m just doing rear raises.
So I got Bent over Rows though…I can feel it quite a bit in my lats.
Most of it is strict, but you know when the rest periods get lower in 2-3rd week…A little cheat is being involved.
And then the pullups.
I’m ALSO doing prone Y’s and T’s 2x a week, before my bench sessions. and just a ltitle bit of shoudler rehab stuff (scap wall slides, press behind neck with mini band)…and some stretching.
What you think of my set-up?
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[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
rasturai wrote:
LOL im like a stalker.in case you don’t go to the other BBB thread…here’s the book online DH…just click over to page 57 and your there…Dejavu lol
http://www.slideshare.net/guest5ff101/big-beyond-belief
I wish you had posted that before I bought the E book![/quote]
Posted it on the 2nd page of the original OTS BBB thread 
LOL Rasturai thought you were doing the 6 Day program, your Day 3 is my Day 3 AND 4 LOL
That’s some SUPER HIGH volume good grief !
Best of luck with it, feel sorry for you lol
Edit: Ah i just looked at it it goes
5
5
5
2
2
1
1
Not so bad so, i originally thought it was 5 sets for everything
Keep up the good work. I’m experiencing what you’re experiencing only a few years older (31) and a few months ahead (been at it since end of November).
I’m 5’6’ and have put on 20lbs (145 to 165) while maintaining bodyfat between 8-10%. I’ve noticed a few things:
If the scale doesn’t go up but your strength is then don’t worry. You’re gaining QUALITY muscle even though the scale may not reflect it.
Take pictures. Especially after initial gains. It’s hard to see the difference between 200lbs of mass and 200lbs of quality muscle. Let the mirror be your guide as measurements can be faulty and not reflect quality gains.
Keep putting weight on the bar. I started barely being able to bench 50lb dumbbells for 5 reps, now I’m doing 85 for 5. I could barely squat 135 for 10, now I’m doing 195 for 10. Deadlift was 135 for 10, now I’m 275 for 5. Each and every week you should challenge yourself. Put that extra 5 on the bar and just fucking go for it.
It’s not too bad…well once I finish the first 3 exercises I’m pretty fuckin tired lol.
Last night though my workout…I couldnt get all my deadlifts in.
My back was just too fuckin tired man and my form started to get too sloppy.
On the flip side I have been hitting Pr’s on ALL exercises, even for the deadlift.
But I did my first set 10 reps good. 2nd set 10 reps…3rd set…2 reps and that was it. My back was on FIRE.
I couldn’t even do my incline presses right away lol…litearlly I ahd to wait a few minutes before I could go back down to take the plates off where I deadlifted.
Back was just so tired lol. But at least I beat last week in the first set, that’s all that matters.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
It’s not too bad…well once I finish the first 3 exercises I’m pretty fuckin tired lol.
Last night though my workout…I couldnt get all my deadlifts in.
My back was just too fuckin tired man and my form started to get too sloppy.
On the flip side I have been hitting Pr’s on ALL exercises, even for the deadlift.
But I did my first set 10 reps good. 2nd set 10 reps…3rd set…2 reps and that was it. My back was on FIRE.
I couldn’t even do my incline presses right away lol…litearlly I ahd to wait a few minutes before I could go back down to take the plates off where I deadlifted.
Back was just so tired lol. But at least I beat last week in the first set, that’s all that matters.[/quote]
Try doing your sets as jump sets ( see the manual for description ) its a great way to get all your sets in
Pars
[quote]rasturai wrote:
It’s not too bad…well once I finish the first 3 exercises I’m pretty fuckin tired lol.
Last night though my workout…I couldnt get all my deadlifts in.
My back was just too fuckin tired man and my form started to get too sloppy.
On the flip side I have been hitting Pr’s on ALL exercises, even for the deadlift.
But I did my first set 10 reps good. 2nd set 10 reps…3rd set…2 reps and that was it. My back was on FIRE.
I couldn’t even do my incline presses right away lol…litearlly I ahd to wait a few minutes before I could go back down to take the plates off where I deadlifted.
Back was just so tired lol. But at least I beat last week in the first set, that’s all that matters.[/quote]
Other than doing jump-sets as pars said, consider using less weight on that third set… Sounds like you used the same weight on all sets or just didn’t reduce weight enough on the third?