Hi. When I was training Starting Strength I had Squat 3 x week and Bench press 2 x week. I just thinking about squat and bench more in Beyond 5/3/1. Is that good template?
Monady - Squat
Thuesday - Bench press
Wednesday - Deadlift + Push Press
Thrusday - Bench press
Friday - Squat
There are templates in the book. Follow them.
You haven’t even done the program and you want to change it. Amazing. No wonder you have so many questions - because you can’t follow simple directions. God help you if you are somehow able to drive a car or use a stove.
No worries, I’m stick to simplest plan for 5 cycles as I started your training (I mean BBB), I’m going to finish 3 Month Challenge this week - it’s amazing by the way. I saw your templates and similar version as I wrote up is 6 days/week but I just want to pack it in 5 days/week. I follow all your directions and that’s why I am asking about.
Up.
[quote]RAWRER wrote:
No worries, I’m stick to simplest plan for 5 cycles as I started your training (I mean BBB), I’m going to finish 3 Month Challenge this week - it’s amazing by the way. I saw your templates and similar version as I wrote up is 6 days/week but I just want to pack it in 5 days/week. I follow all your directions and that’s why I am asking about.[/quote]
Are you still talking about Beyond and a 5-day split or something else? Kind of bouncing around here…
Yes, I am talking about Beyond 5 days a week for squatting and bench pressing twice a week. Nothing changes with principles.
Use whatever template you want. If you want 5x/week, you can do:
m.sq
t.bp
w.dl
r.
f.sq
s.bp
x.
if for whatever reason, you are unwilling to train on the weekends, do:
m.bp
t.sq
w.dl
r.bp
f.sq
Or you can do what I do, and just rotate through the four days (s/b/d/p) and take a day off when you need to. I increase squat frequency by squatting up to the training max before i deadlift. It works very well.
[quote]RAWRER wrote:
Yes, I am talking about Beyond 5 days a week for squatting and bench pressing twice a week. Nothing changes with principles.[/quote]
Okay then, why are you asking about a 5-day split? Page 42 covers the 5 or 6 day training split for Beyond.
Of course there are but 5/6 day version looks like:
Monday - Squat
Tuesday - Bench Press (or Press)
Wednesday - Squat, Deadlift
Thursday - Bench Press (or Press)
Friday - Squat
Saturday - Bench Press (or Press)
Now, I undestand that I have to choose Bench Press twice a week or Press twice a week. I won’t doing Squat and Deadlift together in same day, but still want to doing Squat twice week same as Bench Press twice a week. Also I need to have free weekends for some time. Ok, summing - Squat 2 x week, Bench Press 2 x week, Deadlift 1 x week, Press (Push Press) 1 x week. I made this template, which is similar to book version:
Monady - Squat
Thuesday - Bench press
Wednesday - Deadlift + Press (Push Press)
Thrusday - Bench press
Friday - Squat
Can you tell me why it isn’t good?
[quote]RAWRER wrote:
Of course there are but 5/6 day version looks like:
Monday - Squat
Tuesday - Bench Press (or Press)
Wednesday - Squat, Deadlift
Thursday - Bench Press (or Press)
Friday - Squat
Saturday - Bench Press (or Press)
Now, I undestand that I have to choose Bench Press twice a week or Press twice a week. I won’t doing Squat and Deadlift together in same day, but still want to doing Squat twice week same as Bench Press twice a week. Also I need to have free weekends for some time. Ok, summing - Squat 2 x week, Bench Press 2 x week, Deadlift 1 x week, Press (Push Press) 1 x week. I made this template, which is similar to book version:
Monady - Squat
Thuesday - Bench press
Wednesday - Deadlift + Press (Push Press)
Thrusday - Bench press
Friday - Squat
Can you tell me why it isn’t good?[/quote]
This template blows.
You’re pressing three days in a row, then taking four days off from pressing.
Spread the load throughout the week. Use your brain.
[quote]RAWRER wrote:
Of course there are but 5/6 day version looks like:
Monday - Squat
Tuesday - Bench Press (or Press)
Wednesday - Squat, Deadlift
Thursday - Bench Press (or Press)
Friday - Squat
Saturday - Bench Press (or Press)
Now, I undestand that I have to choose Bench Press twice a week or Press twice a week. I won’t doing Squat and Deadlift together in same day, but still want to doing Squat twice week same as Bench Press twice a week. Also I need to have free weekends for some time. Ok, summing - Squat 2 x week, Bench Press 2 x week, Deadlift 1 x week, Press (Push Press) 1 x week. I made this template, which is similar to book version:
Monady - Squat
Thuesday - Bench press
Wednesday - Deadlift + Press (Push Press)
Thrusday - Bench press
Friday - Squat
Can you tell me why it isn’t good?[/quote]
Why don’t you follow THE PROVEN TEMPLATES IN THE BOOK? Is there a specific reason you are sabotaging your training?
Okay, I’ll listen you and use book template.
5 days a week:
Monday - Squat TM
Tuesday - Bench Press TM
Wednesday - Deadlift TM, Squat DL
Thursday - Press TM, Bench Press DL
Friday - Squat TM
6 days a week:
Monday - Squat TM
Tuesday - Bench Press TM
Wednesday - Deadlift TM, Squat DL
Thursday - Press TM
Friday - Squat TM
Saturday - Bench Press TM
Is that good now?
[quote]RAWRER wrote:
Okay, I’ll listen you and use book template.
5 days a week:
Monday - Squat TM
Tuesday - Bench Press TM
Wednesday - Deadlift TM, Squat DL
Thursday - Press TM, Bench Press DL
Friday - Squat TM
6 days a week:
Monday - Squat TM
Tuesday - Bench Press TM
Wednesday - Deadlift TM, Squat DL
Thursday - Press TM
Friday - Squat TM
Saturday - Bench Press TM
Is that good now? [/quote]
Just do what he fucking wrote…
Have you read Jim’s book? That what I wrote is book’s template. Just asking about TM and DL, because of squat and deadlift in same day.
I sure hope you don’t play a sport. You are uncoachable…
Man, I really want to training like Jim wrote in his book and I choose 6 day template from his book. My last question is just about TM and DL. I don’t want complicate anything any more. Just wondering about Squat and Deadlift in same day. It should be done both TM or made Squat DL.
The Beyond 5/3/1 approach is the absolute worst approach for a person like you. It is for lifters who are comfortable making their own training decisions.
You need something much more hard-coded. I cannot urge you strongly enough to pick a different way to train.
[quote]Ramo wrote:
The Beyond 5/3/1 approach is the absolute worst approach for a person like you. It is for lifters who are comfortable making their own training decisions.
You need something much more hard-coded. I cannot urge you strongly enough to pick a different way to train. [/quote]
Agreed. Going back to something like BBB and one of the challenges might be a better idea for you.
Thanks for all replies. I choosed 6 days a week template.