Best Rock Guitarist Ever?

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Speaking of Roy Buchanan… Keith Richards and Eric Clapton once did some recording session work for Roy Buchanan. Apparently (as was his habit) Roy was drinking quite a bit and began pushing his weight around in the studio. Keith eventually got fed up with Roy’s attitude and went to Eric about it… with a plan in mind.

“Eric, get your cock out. We’ll be pissing in that fucker’s beer!”
And that’s exactly what they did.
The drunken Buchanan ended up drinking a bottle of Keith’s and Eric’s combined piss!
In a later interview about the incident, Keith went on to say “You can ask Eric, but he’ll deny it. But it’s true.”

Now what’s more rock & roll than that? Talk about ‘Strange Brew!’

lol

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
how would y’all rank someone like Buckethead? [/quote]

Interesting for about 5 minutes. Can take in small doses.

Incredible technical ability. He’s a guitar god to his 46 fans.[/quote]

Guess I’m one of the 46? A common criticism of Buckethead is that he can shred, but doesn’t play with feel. I just don’t get it man. Some of his songs take a little while before they really get going, but I think it makes it better. It’s the type of thing that benefits from being stoned, imo.

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[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
how would y’all rank someone like Buckethead? [/quote]

Interesting for about 5 minutes. Can take in small doses.

Incredible technical ability. He’s a guitar god to his 46 fans.[/quote]

Guess I’m one of the 46? A common criticism of Buckethead is that he can shred, but doesn’t play with feel. I just don’t get it man. Some of his songs take a little while before they really get going, but I think it makes it better. It’s the type of thing that benefits from being stoned, imo.[/quote]
I’ve bought a bunch of Buckethead cd’s, 15 songs for 30 sec of shred = :frowning:
BUT! watch this:

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Also, I’m curious where you guys think metal guitarists fall in all of this? Basically I’ve only heard DT and Dimebag thrown out. Is it because some of the more extreme metal isn’t really rock?

I might catch a lot of flack for this but I <3 Bradley Nowell the same way I <3 David Gilmour. Love the way he writes his solos.

And if we’re talking feeling it:

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I’ve bought a bunch of Buckethead cd’s, 15 songs for 30 sec of shred = :frowning:
BUT! watch this:

It’s not all about shredding though. Though songs like Jordan kick fucking ass.

He has some other mellow stuff that I absolutely love

But I digress, this is about rock guitarists:

wtf is everyone’s problem with Kirk Hammett anyways? It’s like cool to hate on famous musicians because you think they’re not ‘good enough.’ I’ve heard he didn’t write a lot of the good stuff? Whatever, the end of Fade to Black is probably my favorite solo over all.

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[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:
Also, I’m curious where you guys think metal guitarists fall in all of this? Basically I’ve only heard DT and Dimebag thrown out. Is it because some of the more extreme metal isn’t really rock?

I might catch a lot of flack for this but I <3 Bradley Nowell the same way I <3 David Gilmour. Love the way he writes his solos.

And if we’re talking feeling it:

That ^^ is really quite beautiful/amazing.

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[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I’ve bought a bunch of Buckethead cd’s, 15 songs for 30 sec of shred = :frowning:
BUT! watch this:

It’s not all about shredding though. Though songs like Jordan kick fucking ass.

He has some other mellow stuff that I absolutely love

But I digress, this is about rock guitarists:

wtf is everyone’s problem with Kirk Hammett anyways? It’s like cool to hate on famous musicians because you think they’re not ‘good enough.’ I’ve heard he didn’t write a lot of the good stuff? Whatever, the end of Fade to Black is probably my favorite solo over all.[/quote]

Just one of many easily obtained examples…

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This is for real, Kirk lovers…

http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/flowered/938/

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[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
how would y’all rank someone like Buckethead? [/quote]

Interesting for about 5 minutes. Can take in small doses.

Incredible technical ability. He’s a guitar god to his 46 fans.[/quote]

Guess I’m one of the 46? A common criticism of Buckethead is that he can shred, but doesn’t play with feel. I just don’t get it man. Some of his songs take a little while before they really get going, but I think it makes it better. It’s the type of thing that benefits from being stoned, imo.[/quote]

I would never say that Buckethead or anyone at that level of master doesn’t play with feel. I’ve been playing 25+ years myself-- you certainly come to understand that ‘feel’ manifests itself in an infinite number of ways. I’ve heard just about everything he’s released. I just don’t find him all that interesting over a long period of time. In my mind, he certainly doesn’t qualify as ‘one of the greatest’. However, he does have some die-hard followers and that’s cool.

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I’m not putting myself into the class of guitarists mentioned here, and I’m probably foolish to do this, but here goes…
It’s not rehearsed, just me fucking around.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]mistabreeze wrote:
Stevie Ray would piss all over these jokers, except Jimi…done[/quote]

Saw him twice, once with Jeff Beck. Beck absolutely blew him away.
[/quote]

I was at the same show at Cobo Hall and they were both amazing. The sound that night was superb.

Terry Bozzio on drums for Beck stole the show imo.

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Question for you guys:

Do you like it when players change songs around when you see them live?

I for one don’t dig it when they go too far. That EVH vid was great with the embellishments and extra fills. I’ve also seem some Randy Rhoads live footage where he goofs around a little and it’s awesome. When I saw Pantera Dime nailed every sacred note lol.

On the flipside David Gilmour imo butchers his own stuff live. That’s why I passed on seeing them years ago(which I now regret but I digress). His solos are so perfect already. Those bends and harmonics in comfortably numbs solos are holy ground, DO NOT FUCK WITH!

Jimmy Page get’s a pass :wink:

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]mistabreeze wrote:
Stevie Ray would piss all over these jokers, except Jimi…done[/quote]

Saw him twice, once with Jeff Beck. Beck absolutely blew him away.
[/quote]

I was at the same show at Cobo Hall and they were both amazing. The sound that night was superb.

Terry Bozzio on drums for Beck stole the show imo.

[/quote]

Beck never has a less than superb drummer and Cozy Powell is the only one to play on more than one disc.

I have seen beck there twice, that show and the There and Back tour, both were mind blowing.

That old dump really does have great sounding acoustics, never heard a bad show there.

Out of curiosity, did you happen to see The Hip at Cobo when they recorded Live Between Us?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]mistabreeze wrote:
Stevie Ray would piss all over these jokers, except Jimi…done[/quote]

Saw him twice, once with Jeff Beck. Beck absolutely blew him away.
[/quote]

I was at the same show at Cobo Hall and they were both amazing. The sound that night was superb.

Terry Bozzio on drums for Beck stole the show imo.

[/quote]

Beck never has a less than superb drummer and Cozy Powell is the only one to play on more than one disc.

I have seen beck there twice, that show and the There and Back tour, both were mind blowing.

That old dump really does have great sounding acoustics, never heard a bad show there.

Out of curiosity, did you happen to see The Hip at Cobo when they recorded Live Between Us?
[/quote]

Nope. Only like a couple of there songs. I’ve had plenty of chances to see them over the years and from all accounts put on a fantastic show and the audiance get’s their moneys worth but I always take a pass. The guitar players sound to my ears is awfull. Especially his slide, even worse than Kirk Hammets lol.

Was it a good show?

I also saw Yes at Cobo. Now that was mind blowing. Steve Howe got crushed by Trevor Rabin that night. We all were looking foward to hearing Howe solo but it was Rabin who impressed us the most. In Howe’s defence he really didn’t have anything to prove at this point, the guys a legend. His guitar collection is second to none from what I’ve read too.

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Being a musician I like it when players take liberties live and change it up. It would be boring to play the same thing night after night.
The Comfortably Numb solo (first pretty one) was actually never played by Gilmore the way you hear it. Bob Ezrin and Waters “comped” that solo together from 6 different takes. Gilmore wasn’t happy about it, but at that point Waters was running the whole show anyway.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

Being a musician I like it when players take liberties live and change it up. It would be boring to play the same thing night after night.
The Comfortably Numb solo (first pretty one) was actually never played by Gilmore the way you hear it. Bob Ezrin and Waters “comped” that solo together from 6 different takes. Gilmore wasn’t happy about it, but at that point Waters was running the whole show anyway.

[/quote]

So much for my sacred ground theory…fuck, I didn’t need to know that lol.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I’m not putting myself into the class of guitarists mentioned here, and I’m probably foolish to do this, but here goes…
It’s not rehearsed, just me fucking around.

I saw this in the other thread - nice playing.

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although some die hard rock fans wouldn’t like it, john frusciante has to be up there.

he’s played some amazingly catchy and yet fairly simple tunes and also played some very technical pieces. the by the way album shows his technical ability.

and his live improvisations and solos are insane, just look up get on top live at yokohama or any don’t forget me performance.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]mistabreeze wrote:
Stevie Ray would piss all over these jokers, except Jimi…done[/quote]

Saw him twice, once with Jeff Beck. Beck absolutely blew him away.
[/quote]

I was at the same show at Cobo Hall and they were both amazing. The sound that night was superb.

Terry Bozzio on drums for Beck stole the show imo.

[/quote]

Beck never has a less than superb drummer and Cozy Powell is the only one to play on more than one disc.

I have seen beck there twice, that show and the There and Back tour, both were mind blowing.

That old dump really does have great sounding acoustics, never heard a bad show there.

Out of curiosity, did you happen to see The Hip at Cobo when they recorded Live Between Us?
[/quote]

Nope. Only like a couple of there songs. I’ve had plenty of chances to see them over the years and from all accounts put on a fantastic show and the audiance get’s their moneys worth but I always take a pass. The guitar players sound to my ears is awfull. Especially his slide, even worse than Kirk Hammets lol.

Was it a good show?

I also saw Yes at Cobo. Now that was mind blowing. Steve Howe got crushed by Trevor Rabin that night. We all were looking foward to hearing Howe solo but it was Rabin who impressed us the most. In Howe’s defence he really didn’t have anything to prove at this point, the guys a legend. His guitar collection is second to none from what I’ve read too. [/quote]

I wasn’t at that one, just figured with you being Canadian you might have been. I did have front row for them at the Palace and they were great. Got to meet the band before hand and they were very down to earth, except Gordon was kind of an ass.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

Being a musician I like it when players take liberties live and change it up. It would be boring to play the same thing night after night.
The Comfortably Numb solo (first pretty one) was actually never played by Gilmore the way you hear it. Bob Ezrin and Waters “comped” that solo together from 6 different takes. Gilmore wasn’t happy about it, but at that point Waters was running the whole show anyway.

[/quote]

So much for my sacred ground theory…fuck, I didn’t need to know that lol.
[/quote]

Yeah, sorry about that. It’s actually a really common practice. That and “punch in’s”, where you spot fix “bad” notes. If you’ve ever listened to Zappa, all of the Joe’s Garage albums as well as Sheik Yerbouti and all of the Shut Up And Play Guitar albums he devised what he called “xenocrony” (strange sound) or the Ampex solo. Whenever it was time for a guitar solo in a song, he would hit play on a different tape deck and playback a solo from a different song, recorded live on tour somewhere…pretty crazy, pretty cool. Of course as a kid I didn’t know this and figured out how to play like this because I dug it so much. Then I was dismayed when I found out…
Oh, the one Joe’s exception is the solo for A Watermelon In Easter Hay.