[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Ade Rai and Skip Lacour[/quote]
Frig me, are they really natural?
wow, yep these guys are huge, I vote them
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I always liked Skip, and respect the physique he built, but it’s just a matter of time before someone brings this up, so I’ll toss it out in case anyone wants to weigh in:
1-He practically lived on Pro-Hormones when they were legal (and admits as much)
2-He supposedly (didn’t see the police report myself, just heard about this in several places) got busted selling PEDs, which doesn’t necessarily mean he used them himself, but it is what it is…
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Knowing this would have save me in debate I had with ebomb over here a few months back lol
[quote]Jake W. wrote:
Steve Reeves. Golden era for the win :)[/quote]
You’ll find some old dudes from Reeves’ era who will tell you that Reeves did in fact use steroids.[/quote]
ID, aren’t you one of those aforementioned “old dudes”?
[quote]Jake W. wrote:
Steve Reeves. Golden era for the win :)[/quote]
You’ll find some old dudes from Reeves’ era who will tell you that Reeves did in fact use steroids.[/quote]
ID, aren’t you one of those aforementioned “old dudes”?[/quote]
Natural bodybuilding today is lies. I feel bad for people like The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 (true naturals, in my opinion) who have to compete with guys on hormones. In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Natural bodybuilding today is lies. I feel bad for people like The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 (true naturals, in my opinion) who have to compete with guys on hormones. In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
Ya, unfortunately there are guys out there that compete as naturals when they are using. While it is irritating and upsetting, the way I see it, you can’t get too caught up in what you think other guys are using or what other guys may be using. I think you really just need to metaphorically put your blinders on and train your butt off, diet hard, supplement wisely, and bring in the best package you can; worrying about what others are taking to give them that edge isn’t going to help me do that. While it’s annoying, the way I see it, bodybuilding is all about bringing your own most complete package, and I can only monitor what I take, not what others choose to take.
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I think you really just need to metaphorically put your blinders on and train your butt off, diet hard, supplement wisely, and bring in the best package you can; worrying about what others are taking to give them that edge isn’t going to help me do that. [/quote]
please don’t ever train that cute little butt of yours off
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Natural bodybuilding today is lies. I feel bad for people like The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 (true naturals, in my opinion) who have to compete with guys on hormones. In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
Ya, unfortunately there are guys out there that compete as naturals when they are using. While it is irritating and upsetting, the way I see it, you can’t get too caught up in what you think other guys are using or what other guys may be using. I think you really just need to metaphorically put your blinders on and train your butt off, diet hard, supplement wisely, and bring in the best package you can; worrying about what others are taking to give them that edge isn’t going to help me do that. While it’s annoying, the way I see it, bodybuilding is all about bringing your own most complete package, and I can only monitor what I take, not what others choose to take.
Nevertheless, it still sucks that it goes on. [/quote]
That’s one of the reasons I don’t see myself ever competing as a natural. It’s just so ridiculous to lie your ass off for a trophy. No integrity at all! Just drug addicts.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Natural bodybuilding today is lies. I feel bad for people like The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 (true naturals, in my opinion) who have to compete with guys on hormones. In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
Ya, unfortunately there are guys out there that compete as naturals when they are using. While it is irritating and upsetting, the way I see it, you can’t get too caught up in what you think other guys are using or what other guys may be using. I think you really just need to metaphorically put your blinders on and train your butt off, diet hard, supplement wisely, and bring in the best package you can; worrying about what others are taking to give them that edge isn’t going to help me do that. While it’s annoying, the way I see it, bodybuilding is all about bringing your own most complete package, and I can only monitor what I take, not what others choose to take.
Nevertheless, it still sucks that it goes on. [/quote]
That’s one of the reasons I don’t see myself ever competing as a natural. It’s just so ridiculous to lie your ass off for a trophy. No integrity at all! Just drug addicts. [/quote]
I agree. There’s no way I could enjoy a win knowing I cheated.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Natural bodybuilding today is lies. I feel bad for people like The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 (true naturals, in my opinion) who have to compete with guys on hormones. In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
Ya, unfortunately there are guys out there that compete as naturals when they are using. While it is irritating and upsetting, the way I see it, you can’t get too caught up in what you think other guys are using or what other guys may be using. I think you really just need to metaphorically put your blinders on and train your butt off, diet hard, supplement wisely, and bring in the best package you can; worrying about what others are taking to give them that edge isn’t going to help me do that. While it’s annoying, the way I see it, bodybuilding is all about bringing your own most complete package, and I can only monitor what I take, not what others choose to take.
Nevertheless, it still sucks that it goes on. [/quote]
That’s one of the reasons I don’t see myself ever competing as a natural. It’s just so ridiculous to lie your ass off for a trophy. No integrity at all! Just drug addicts. [/quote]
I agree. There’s no way I could enjoy a win knowing I cheated.[/quote]
This is the arm that I’m using peptides on. Pretty damn impressive roided out arm, isn’t it?
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
He’s talking about me.
But I’m confused about the steroids part. I don’t use them. Please don’t go making claims like that, as I am very proud of the physique I have built.
The only thing I’m using is a peptide, but I’m hardly bodybuilding with it. I’m using it to speed the healing of arm, the one in my avatar, that I had surgery on and that I can barely curl 15lbs with. I’m sorry it disheartens you that I’m using it during therapy. If you’re a bodybuilder that had to choose between 1 year to full recovery or 4-6 months to full recovery, what would you do?
[quote]23278 wrote:
This is the arm that I’m using peptides on. Pretty damn impressive roided out arm, isn’t it?
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
In our forum, we have a guy who claims natural and competes as one but uses steroids, fat-burners and peptides. It’s a joke and a travesty. [/quote]
He’s talking about me.
But I’m confused about the steroids part. I don’t use them. Please don’t go making claims like that, as I am very proud of the physique I have built.
The only thing I’m using is a peptide, but I’m hardly bodybuilding with it. I’m using it to speed the healing of arm, the one in my avatar, that I had surgery on and that I can barely curl 15lbs with. I’m sorry it disheartens you that I’m using it during therapy. If you’re a bodybuilder that had to choose between 1 year to full recovery or 4-6 months to full recovery, what would you do?[/quote]
I know a few people who have used what most untested guys would use while competeing against naturals, in natural shows.
they would tell you that, everyone in there is probably doing at least something so why should i be at a disadvantage?
Those are not my opinions but there are many people that think that way and are entitled to do so. I think that if you use go untested and if you dont then go natural, they created natural for that specific reason so come on. People just want to always be known for being something that theyre not I guess
