[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
Miss Parker wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Ms. Parker, how would you react if an assailant was on top of you and you were facing down?
How about if he was facing you while on top of you?
You can also give us more scenarios.
I am curious.
Well, if my attacker was on top of me & I was facing down I’d probably react by getting killed. Seriously. We have a technique where we shoot our knees in & our back, um, back, ending in a sort of face down curled up position which causes the attacker to pitch forward & us to escape. I have never been even remotely close to being able to do this.
If he were sort of behind & on top of me, maybe trying to get at me doggie style I’d probably kick & thrash & send backward elbows & hammerfists until I could get turned around. Having someone behind you on the ground is not good for your survival chances, so I would fight extremely hard to avoid it, even in class.
On top & facing me, well if he’s in my guard I like to do an arm drag & pin him down with one of my calves while sending a hard elbow to his face. If he’s in mount, ugh, buck trap & roll, I guess, though I’m not great at this. A lot of times I grab the shirt collar or ear or hair of someone who has me mounted to jerk them down closer to me so I can reverse him - I have to be fast & aggressive, though, or I’ll get arm barred. As I reverse him I like to come down with an elbow or forearm strike to the throat, that’s quite easy to do and very helpful.
I don’t know what other scenarios you’re curious about, and I’m not very good on the ground, though I am very aggressive, much more so than when standing. I accidentally bit someone very hard tonight. They say you’ll do under pressure what your body has trained to do, and I always practice throat strikes, eye gouges & groin strikes on the ground, by basically just touching or lightly digging with my fingers or elbow where I’d like to strike.
On the topic of eye “gouges”, are you placing your thumb/finger(s) on the actual eyeball itself and pressing? If so, stop. It’s a much, much less effective method of eye attack. The eyeball itself is actually a fairly resilient structure in terms of compression forces.
Where the eye is vulnerable is:
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on it’s surface- the lense is extremely delicate and can be scratched easily, which is extremely painful. Great for real life, but not great for training purposes as you do not want to accidentally scratch your training partner’s lense/cornia.
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the trigeminal nerve- this nerve runs behind the eye and up under the supra-orbital ridge. Find the notch in the ridge above the eye with your finger, then insert your finger/thumb up and in at that point. Keep pressing up and in until you get a flinch reaction from your partner (the flinch will be that their head will go back violently). This takes very, very little strength to make work, and even the biggest, strongest opponents will be unable to resist you pushing his head back (also great for breaking grips, making space, and in the event of a real combative situation you can so some serious damage if you brace the back of the head with the other hand).
Honestly though, I haven’t seen many (really only 2 that I can think of) people teach eye attacks right though. Just like very few teach fish hooking right, or truly understand how to use biting.
I don’t do it hard because I don’t want to injure my partners. But I tend to bite extremely hard because I have a mouthpiece in & its very difficult to bite, so it doesn’t hurt them at all. But tonight I wasn’t wearing my mouthpiece & we were going really hard & I just automatically bit the shit out of this poor guy’s chest.
If you eye attack correctly it only takes very little pressure to get a reaction (I’ve seen little kids make it work on grown men), but you can safely do it fairly hard (unless you brace the back of the head, which I wouldn’t suggest doing) in practice because the opponent will naturally move away from the pain. Of course you need to play around with it to see how hard you can safely go. Start light, then gradually increase intensity.
Damnit man. So much information! Share!
Can you school us a bit on biting. I would have thought the best places to bite: neck, nose, cheek, breast and inside of arm.[/quote]
It somewhat depends on what the purpose of the bite is, what your position is in relation to your opponent, etc… Most people think of biting in a 1 dimensional fashion, to maim. When in reality you can use a bite to maim, weaken, anchor yourself to your opponent, cause a flinch reaction, create space, intimidate, distract, or even kill.
This is the stuff that you don’t see getting taught much, and is really where my instructor stands out. It’s how he makes his living and hence I don’t want to go giving away too much. Hopefully you understand.
A very simple bite application would be:
-from a clinch (collar tie) bite hold of the opponent’s ear (anchoring yourself to them) preferably using the rear teeth (as the front teeth have a greater possibility of being pulled out if the attacker pulls away hard) while also grabbing hold of the opposite side of their head (basically still in the collar tie) and perhaps either their wrist or bicep (to check that arm) with your free hand.
-next, while continuing to bite step backwards while simultaneously dropping your center or gravity in order to pull their head forward or their center of gravity and force them to their stomach.
-continue this process (you can talk to them as you go, telling them what you want them to do as you go) until they are completely laid out flat on their stomach on the ground
-From there you have lots of options (pin down the head with your hands, use the hair if they have it as a body handle, while you stand up and drop a knee on the back of their head/neck/spine, use both hands to smash their face into the ground (you can use the hair if they have it as a body handle), stomp their hand(s) to incapacitate them, spin around behind them and take rear mount; then finish however you want to from there, etc… hopefully your training has provided you with some simple yet effective techniques that you feel comfortable with and could use from this position).
There you have a simple biting application which requires very little (if any) fine motor skill, can be learned very quickly, requires very little strength, and yet is effective.
If any of you guys are interested in more of this stuff check out Walt Lysak Jr.'s videos, or better yet, do a seminar with him. You really have to feel a lot of this stuff to realize just how effective it really is, and Walt is an excellent teacher who also practices what he preaches. You can also PM me if you have further questions about his stuff.
