If you’re really worried have her take BJJ and Boxing. BJJ is very effective and useful in most real-world situations. Wrestling, although exceptionally useful and just as technical, is too strength demanding for a girl. I suggest Boxing because, hands-down, it would be the most logical for anyone in a dangerous situation. You can effectively strike with your arms, and if you are able to slip and jab, you can find am opening to run away. For example, if you have enough room to kick a person than you probably have enough room to run away. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that the odds of outrunning an attacker will be a lot higher than fighting one off. Don’t fall for any of those scams or self-defense classes that don’t emphasize sparring or groundwork, save boxing. Good luck and best wishes on your search.
Wow this thread has certainly had some action on it.
Shame that alot of it was just arguments about what would be best for for the OP’s situation, esp. seeing as alot of people posting seemingly have little to no understanding of the OP’s needs.
I can’t really add anything to the discussion, because I’m a guy, who’s learnt how to fight like a man against other men.
To all the UFC fan boys, I really wish you would go back to sherdog.
Any points that I would like to make have already been made, but I’ll do a quick summary of what I believe is important-
If age appropriate- teaching awareness and avoidance is always the best defence.
Instructor quality is most likely more important than style.
Realism in learning (i.e. through sparring, drills, pressure-testing ect.) is critical.
And art vs. art arguments are always going to end badly.
I say, study and art or multipile “arts” that give you practical solutions to all likely situations. If time/patience/motivation or what-ever is limited, then an “art” that give practical solutions to the most common situations. This requires independant investigation, i.e. not believing a BJJ school that tells you all fights (or 99%) will go to the ground.
Aside from that point, I will refrain from entering the BJJ as self-defence arguments, but to the poster above me-
Norys you really should have read through the thread before posting. You aren’t going to make many friends if you repeat rhetoric that has already been argued about, especially if you don’t actually add a fresh perspective or new information to your side of an argument. I’m not trying to be an arse, just telling you like it is.
And finally, to the OP- this thread should have ended after Miss P’s post.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
That’s not the point. The point is about size. The idea that a woman is too weak to grapple with an untrained man but can strike him hard enough to have some effect is incongruous.
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No it isn’t- I have seen girls with no training that, frankly, can hit pretty fuckin hard. They may be light or small (some of them at least) but a 130 lb. female can generate enough force to stun a guy and get away.
And on top of that, I’m not saying she should box with with him- strikes come in all forms, and I’d rather see a woman that knew how to do a palm heel strike and rake a guy’s eyes.
I’m not arguing that. I’m talking about the response.
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A woman is too weak and small to grapple (even though she will probably not have the choice) but if she is close enough or gets close enough to strike she will be well within range to be grabbed. A woman can headbutt a man who may be close to a foot taller? If a woman has the space to attempt a strike she is better off taking advantage of it to run but, will she be able to outrun the attacker? What if she is wearing heels? What if he is just plain faster (he is supposedly so much bigger and stronger so it only follows).
The other thing is that people talk about how long someone has to train to get proficient. If you are fighting other pros then of course you have to be at that level but who here is worried about getting attacked by Brock Lesnar? Besides, it takes more time to get decent at striking than it does grappling. [/quote]
You’re getting into the “27 ninjas with machine guns” mode. Don’t. Every scenario is different, and nothing fits all of them. No art will teach you to deal with all of them, either.
However, striking does not take longer to “learn”- people are born with the instinct to strike. Even though it might make a boxer cringe as far as form, the roundhouse right that most people throw can do damage if it lands. They do not come out with the basic knowledge of grappling, though.
I still feel that you are missing the point. This is not a “striking vs. grappling” argument, or a “boxing vs. BJJ” argument.
What is the goal of self defense? To get away. What is the easiest way to accomplish that? Run. You cannot do that from your back, and relying on an art that teaches you exclusively to ENGAGE the enemy while on your back is not optimal.
Again, I’m not saying they shouldn’t know groudfighting- however, there is more to groundfighting than grappling, and from the BJJ classes I’ve seen, they don’t teach that to you. Trying to perform grappling moves while in that kind of situation does not accomplish your goal of GETTING AWAY. Add to that that if the man is armed, grappling is the WORST art to try and win with. If that’s combined with the idea that most BJJ classes are not going to teach you real self defense, but a sport that is meant to win tournaments- it’s a recipe for disaster.
The way a woman would naturally fight on the ground- i.e. tooth and nail, clawing and biting and ripping, is the evolutionary model that has WORKED for millenia. Being as brutal as possible and then attempting to get away is the best course of action. Hence why I would still advocate
[quote]admbaum wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
admbaum wrote:
nice Kimura pic chitown34
Grappling arts FTW!!!
You’re a retard.
Do you just like the taste of my nuts or something? You’ve been all over them all day today. You dont like me…I get it. At the end of the day it really makes no difference what you think of me. And just so you know, I’m straight and most importantly, not interested in you. GET OFF MY NUTS FLAMER!!!11111
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Did you put all those 1’s in there on purpose or did you have a seizure while typing?
And no, I don’t like you, as previously stated I think you’re a retard.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
zecarlo wrote:
That’s not the point. The point is about size. The idea that a woman is too weak to grapple with an untrained man but can strike him hard enough to have some effect is incongruous.
No it isn’t- I have seen girls with no training that, frankly, can hit pretty fuckin hard. They may be light or small (some of them at least) but a 130 lb. female can generate enough force to stun a guy and get away.
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And yet, this same little woman is supposedly too weak to grapple?
Of course you can’t prepare for every situation but the fact is that most rapes follow a pattern and whether or not you choose to believe it, it usually involves grappling. Rapists don’t walk up to women and punch them in the face but come up from behind or make a move when the woman has her guard down or is vulnerable in some way and grab them. Then, you have the majority which take place in a home and involve an acquaintance so the woman will find herself in a ground and/or grappling fight before she even knows it. A person can survive without taking any classes in striking but if you can’t fight on the ground or grapple you can’t fight.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
zecarlo wrote:
That’s not the point. The point is about size. The idea that a woman is too weak to grapple with an untrained man but can strike him hard enough to have some effect is incongruous.
No it isn’t- I have seen girls with no training that, frankly, can hit pretty fuckin hard. They may be light or small (some of them at least) but a 130 lb. female can generate enough force to stun a guy and get away.
And yet, this same little woman is supposedly too weak to grapple?
Of course you can’t prepare for every situation but the fact is that most rapes follow a pattern and whether or not you choose to believe it, it usually involves grappling. Rapists don’t walk up to women and punch them in the face but come up from behind or make a move when the woman has her guard down or is vulnerable in some way and grab them. Then, you have the majority which take place in a home and involve an acquaintance so the woman will find herself in a ground and/or grappling fight before she even knows it.
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It takes one shot to knock a woman stupid. That being said, they must fight as if in combat. This does not involve submission holds.
I’m not actually trying to be a dick… but have you ever been in a real fight, not in the ring?
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu without question. It’s perfect for a female who will almost always be at a physical disadvantage if defending themselves from a male.
“Jiu-jitsu is personal efficiency to protest the weaker, which anyone can do. It is the force of leverage against brute force.” -Helio Gracie
[quote]Bondslave wrote:
“Jiu-jitsu is personal efficiency to protest the weaker, which anyone can do. It is the force of leverage against brute force.” -Helio Gracie [/quote]
Did he say that before or after claiming that 98.987787 of fights go to the ground?
Who gives a shit? I dont
I certainly wouldnt be one to argue against a large portion of fights ending up on the ground, but maybe its only 61.7235%. The world will never know.
[quote]regrahc wrote:
I’m looking to get my daughters into some form of martial arts, mainly for self-defense purposes. Keeping in mind that if (God forbid) they ever have to use it, they’ll probably be much smaller and lighter than their opponent, what are the best styles for them to learn?
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I would really check out Tim Larkin’s TFT (Target Focus Training). It teaches you more about the entire concept of no rules apply. In martial arts competitions, traning centers, dojos, dojangs, and even in the UFC, rules apply. What he teaches is basically survival against asocial vioent encounters. Great stuff.
Nick
Friday, June 5, 2009
My Book Excerpt- Rape
I mentioned rape in the previous post. This is my bookâ??s subchapter on Rape.
Please send it to your loved ones. Hope it can provide some insight on how women can protect themselves from this horrible type of crime.
Rape
One of the most cruel crimes and unfortunately a common one before and after SHTF.
Many crimes, including rape and murder, are perpetrated by someone that knew the victim well.
Due to the overall feeling of lawlessness, the amount of predators will grow significantly after SHTF.
We had a serial rapist in the city of Cordoba that raped 93 women before committing suicide when cops finally tracked him down to his home.
In one occasion I walked into my friendly gun shop looking for some more OC spray, and they told me they didnâ??t had any left: It had all been shipped and sold in Cordoba because of the serial rapist.
This year a series of rapes in the fancy neighborhood of Recoleta had many woman carrying regular Tramontina table knives in their trendy purses for defense.
While a small serrated table knife is far better than nothing, a more adequate weapon is preferable.
Thereâ??s a number of things you can do to avoid or defend yourself better from this horrendous type of crime.
A 20 year old college student that was a rape victim herself has some advice for women.
The attacker had already attacked other 32 girls in the same campus. This is the serial rapist I talked about before. She was one of the victims and wrote this before he was caught.
She sent her advice through email so that other women would be prepared. Iâ??m literally translating most of her advice:
*Donâ??t walk around alone, donâ??t let your guard down. The guy is loose and knows how to handle himself, how to talk to you.
*We have to be ready. If someone talks to you from behind or puts a hand in your shoulder, you have to scream. Run and hug someone nearby. Run into a shop or just run away.
*The rapist grabs his victims in public places, where if you react quickly, not only can you escape, but thereâ??s a good chance they can catch him as well.
*In case you canâ??t scream, frozen by fear like it happened to me, carry a whistle. Your vocal cords donâ??t seem to work but you can still blow a whistle.
*Donâ??t walk around at night. Better spend the money and get a cab or â??remisâ??.
- I took a bath, dressed up and walked towards my friendâ??s house. There was a lot of people on the street that night. It was a nice part of town too. I realized there was a guy walking a few steps behind me. He told me something and when I try to turn around he tells me not to look at him because heâ??s going to cut me up.
*He put his arm around me, told me not to be scared, that he only needed me to pretend I was his girlfriend just to escape the cops that were looking for him.
*He took me to an abandoned place, there he told me not to scream because no one would listen. He put my blouse around my head, touched me, it was denigrating, horrible, the most denigrating, terrible and humiliating thing that ever happened to me.
*Donâ??t walk around alone, donâ??t be trustful, be aware. I suppose you are thinking, why didnâ??t I run? At the time I couldnâ??t react.
This girl has some great advice. Iâ??d like to add some more.
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Try to avoid using skirts. Itâ??s no guarantee but every bit helps, and itâ??s a bit more complicated than skirts. Rapists take this into account.
-
Rapists also like long hair for some reason. Probably because it makes it easier to take hold of the victimâ??s head. If you have long hair, try using it in some hairstyle that it canâ??t be so easily grabbed.
-
As the girl said, react. Preferably react violently. Rapists count on psychological submission. When the victim starts screaming, insulting him, pushing him away, in most cases they just run away surprised. Hopefully youâ??ll have a weapon as well.
-
Even better than whistles, there are personal alarms/flashlight combo little gadgets that sound off a high pitch alarm and flash when you push a button. This is even easier to use than a whistle, and you can have it in the pocket ready at all time as you walk around. If none of this is available there are small handheld marine boat horns that can do the trick. Some are no bigger than a deodorant spray and can be carried in the purse. These sure are one of the few gadgets you should buy right away.
Copyright © Fernando â??FerFALâ?? Aguirre
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
zecarlo wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
zecarlo wrote:
That’s not the point. The point is about size. The idea that a woman is too weak to grapple with an untrained man but can strike him hard enough to have some effect is incongruous.
No it isn’t- I have seen girls with no training that, frankly, can hit pretty fuckin hard. They may be light or small (some of them at least) but a 130 lb. female can generate enough force to stun a guy and get away.
And yet, this same little woman is supposedly too weak to grapple?
Of course you can’t prepare for every situation but the fact is that most rapes follow a pattern and whether or not you choose to believe it, it usually involves grappling. Rapists don’t walk up to women and punch them in the face but come up from behind or make a move when the woman has her guard down or is vulnerable in some way and grab them. Then, you have the majority which take place in a home and involve an acquaintance so the woman will find herself in a ground and/or grappling fight before she even knows it.
It takes one shot to knock a woman stupid. That being said, they must fight as if in combat. This does not involve submission holds.
A person can survive without taking any classes in striking but if you can’t fight on the ground or grapple you can’t fight.
I’m not actually trying to be a dick… but have you ever been in a real fight, not in the ring?[/quote]
Combat? It’s not combat but a rape attempt. In combat you use a weapon. BTW, guess what the US Army has based its hand to hand combat on? BJJ.
Have you ever been a woman who was raped? Rorion based his Rape Safe video on info from law enforcement and from people who deal with rapists and thus know what they look for and how they attack. I don’t think some TMA from Asia or Western boxing took any of that into consideration.
BJJ is more than submission holds. That’s like saying Judo is only about throws.
In the end, grappling has proven its effectiveness in the real world and superiority over striking for centuries. You can balk at how many fights end up on the ground but I bet that almost all rapes and rape attempts end up there. In the case of acquaintance rape they may even start there. Maybe, in some cases, a woman has the chance to strike first but how many of those strikes will end it? What if she misses, or it doesn’t hurt, or he reacted in time to defend it? Then what? Then again, since the rapist will usually make his mover when a woman is vulnerable she will be the one reacting to his attack which more than likely will be of the grappling variety.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Friday, June 5, 2009
My Book Excerpt- Rape
I mentioned rape in the previous post. This is my bookâ??s subchapter on Rape.
Please send it to your loved ones. Hope it can provide some insight on how women can protect themselves from this horrible type of crime.
Rape
One of the most cruel crimes and unfortunately a common one before and after SHTF.
Many crimes, including rape and murder, are perpetrated by someone that knew the victim well.
Due to the overall feeling of lawlessness, the amount of predators will grow significantly after SHTF.
We had a serial rapist in the city of Cordoba that raped 93 women before committing suicide when cops finally tracked him down to his home.
In one occasion I walked into my friendly gun shop looking for some more OC spray, and they told me they didnâ??t had any left: It had all been shipped and sold in Cordoba because of the serial rapist.
This year a series of rapes in the fancy neighborhood of Recoleta had many woman carrying regular Tramontina table knives in their trendy purses for defense.
While a small serrated table knife is far better than nothing, a more adequate weapon is preferable.
Thereâ??s a number of things you can do to avoid or defend yourself better from this horrendous type of crime.
A 20 year old college student that was a rape victim herself has some advice for women.
The attacker had already attacked other 32 girls in the same campus. This is the serial rapist I talked about before. She was one of the victims and wrote this before he was caught.
She sent her advice through email so that other women would be prepared. Iâ??m literally translating most of her advice:
*Donâ??t walk around alone, donâ??t let your guard down. The guy is loose and knows how to handle himself, how to talk to you.
*We have to be ready. If someone talks to you from behind or puts a hand in your shoulder, you have to scream. Run and hug someone nearby. Run into a shop or just run away.
*The rapist grabs his victims in public places, where if you react quickly, not only can you escape, but thereâ??s a good chance they can catch him as well.
*In case you canâ??t scream, frozen by fear like it happened to me, carry a whistle. Your vocal cords donâ??t seem to work but you can still blow a whistle.
*Donâ??t walk around at night. Better spend the money and get a cab or â??remisâ??.
- I took a bath, dressed up and walked towards my friendâ??s house. There was a lot of people on the street that night. It was a nice part of town too. I realized there was a guy walking a few steps behind me. He told me something and when I try to turn around he tells me not to look at him because heâ??s going to cut me up.
*He put his arm around me, told me not to be scared, that he only needed me to pretend I was his girlfriend just to escape the cops that were looking for him.
*He took me to an abandoned place, there he told me not to scream because no one would listen. He put my blouse around my head, touched me, it was denigrating, horrible, the most denigrating, terrible and humiliating thing that ever happened to me.
*Donâ??t walk around alone, donâ??t be trustful, be aware. I suppose you are thinking, why didnâ??t I run? At the time I couldnâ??t react.
This girl has some great advice. Iâ??d like to add some more.
-
Try to avoid using skirts. Itâ??s no guarantee but every bit helps, and itâ??s a bit more complicated than skirts. Rapists take this into account.
-
Rapists also like long hair for some reason. Probably because it makes it easier to take hold of the victimâ??s head. If you have long hair, try using it in some hairstyle that it canâ??t be so easily grabbed.
-
As the girl said, react. Preferably react violently. Rapists count on psychological submission. When the victim starts screaming, insulting him, pushing him away, in most cases they just run away surprised. Hopefully youâ??ll have a weapon as well.
-
Even better than whistles, there are personal alarms/flashlight combo little gadgets that sound off a high pitch alarm and flash when you push a button. This is even easier to use than a whistle, and you can have it in the pocket ready at all time as you walk around. If none of this is available there are small handheld marine boat horns that can do the trick. Some are no bigger than a deodorant spray and can be carried in the purse. These sure are one of the few gadgets you should buy right away.
Copyright �© Fernando â??FerFALâ?? Aguirre
[/quote]
Great excerpt & link. It made me a little queasy reading that girl recount her experience of being raped. Its so true about women freezing up instead of reacting immediately to the threat. We do a choke drill in class where half the class closes their eyes & the other half sneaks up & chokes them with the assigned choke(s). For months when I first started training, even though I knew what to expect, the first thing I would do when grabbed roughly by the throat was freeze.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Combat? It’s not combat but a rape attempt. In combat you use a weapon.
[/quote]
Wrong. There are different mindsets to fighting. If I get into a bar brawl on a Friday night because someone grabbed my girl’s ass, it’s a “fight.” There are rules and laws, and I won’t use excessive force and I will try to keep from using a weapon. I’ll punch, but not for vital targets, etc. If someone dies, it’s likely going to be called “manslaughter.”
If I’m walking home and three guys jump me, that’s combat. That is a life or death situation where I very well may be killed; I will go for the throat, the eyes, vitals, and the odds are is I will use a knife.
“Combat” doesn’t necessarily mean using a weapon- it means you are fighting for your life, and it stems from a robbery attempt, a rape attempt, a hostage situation, a kidnapping situation, etc.
I’ve been in a ton of fights. I’ve never been in combat.
It’s based off of boxing and BJJ- it isn’t straight grappling. But either way, that’s for two reasons:
- The move away from full scale wars and battle situations and into more police action and peacekeeping missions. On Guadalcanal or the Somme, the object was to KILL, and to do it NOW. Hit once, stab him, hit him with your entrenching tool, and move on. YOu can’t do that shit in a Muslim country where you’re trying to fight a PR war- hence the stressing of BJJ, which gives you a means of control without seriously harming your subject. This is where grappling excels.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/grappling.html
- I saw an interview with a MCMAP instructor, and he said that they don’t expect Marines to be able to fight at that range, they are looking to instill a warrior spirit into the men with the training, and give them the courage to fight at any range. Anyone who thinks grappling will be used realistically on a battlefield, which is literally strewn with weapons and men, is insane.
Well specfuckingtacular. So there’s a video out there that swears that its system will keep you safe from rape. Ironically enough, it’s made by the very guy who’s entire family has spent their lives promoting their art as the greatest art of all time… and who’ve all grown very, very rich from it.
I could give you a dozen of these videos easily from every style.
Never said it wasn’t.
In the end, you’re absolutely full of shit.
Show me where this is true. I’ve witnessed a shit ton of barfights, and been in enough, and ironically enough it’s the guy who gets punched first who loses 90 percent of the time. Why? No gloves and haymakers.
I’ve never seen someone triangle choke someone in a streetfight, never seen an armbar done to one of my buddies. And if I did, I’d kick that motherfucker in the head.
The guys who fare the best in streetfighters are, from my experience, boxers.
That’s fine. Doesn’t mean that grappling is the right response.
You’re feeding me the same bullshit over and over, and I’m proving you wrong over and over. When you don’t know what to say, you’re going with the 27 ninjas with machine guns- “What if this happens?” What if that happens? As if it somehow justifies your response.
And I’m still waiting for your answer- Have you ever been in a real fight outside the ring or the mat?
By your loop of thinking, I’m beginning to think that you haven’t.
I’ve said it before, too, (hahah and I’m sorry Parker), but I don’t give a fuck what art a woman knows- they are not made to take the punishment. One punch, and I guaranfuckingtee that I will put a woman out cold (not that I ever would, I’m just saying).
Hence, the stress and the focus MUST be on avoidance and awareness, using absolutely brual tactics like punching to the throat and gouging the eyes, and then escaping and evading the attacker. Unless they are highly trained or a big old broad, engaging with a man will result in death for the woman.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I’ve said it before, too, (hahah and I’m sorry Parker), but I don’t give a fuck what art a woman knows- they are not made to take the punishment. One punch, and I guaranfuckingtee that I will put a woman out cold (not that I ever would, I’m just saying).
Hence, the stress and the focus MUST be on avoidance and awareness, using absolutely brual tactics like punching to the throat and gouging the eyes, and then escaping and evading the attacker. Unless they are highly trained or a big old broad, engaging with a man will result in death for the woman. [/quote]
Nothing to be sorry for, sweetie. I’ve said the same thing on here many times. “A punch could kill me” “stakes are higher for females” blah blah blah…it’s all still true.
How is stating the fact that most rapes are acquaintance rapes and therefore a woman should be prepared to fight in that situation a far fetched what if scenario? I suppose, by your logic, a woman should learn to fight as though she is in a barfight since that is how most rapes go down.
Someone getting sucker punched is not a fight. The best boxer in the world could lose to a bum if he was caught off guard like that. If anyone of those great bar fighters you saw had picked a fight with an NCAA wrestler they would have been taken down and beaten to a pulp. I don’t judge a self defense or fighting system on a fight between two drunken bums in a bar. If in a fight two guys stand and trade blows it’s because they chose to. Had one of them been a rappler who decided he would take it to the ground then it would have happened. It would probably happen even if he wasn’t a grappler. Taking someone down who knows nothing about defending it is easy.
Still, what does it have to do with women and rape? You are talking about fights between men. I bet if the fights had the stipulation that the loser would get raped they would never have fought in the first place. If one did take place I would also bet that of someone was losing they would either run away or try and clinch and it would end up on the ground.
How many fights I’ve been in is irrelevant and I think bragging about it like you do is immature and weak. Am I supposed to be impressed that you hang out in bars with losers who enjoy fighting? And in the end, that experience holds nothing for a woman. All you show is that you can fight bums. Big deal.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Well specfuckingtacular. So there’s a video out there that swears that its system will keep you safe from rape. Ironically enough, it’s made by the very guy who’s entire family has spent their lives promoting their art as the greatest art of all time… and who’ve all grown very, very rich from it.
I could give you a dozen of these videos easily from every style.
I’ve never seen someone triangle choke someone in a streetfight, never seen an armbar done to one of my buddies. And if I did, I’d kick that motherfucker in the head.
[/quote]
And how many of those videos were created with law enforcement and rape experts involvement?
So, if your friend is fighting and it’s on the feet you won’t step in but if it’s on the ground you’ll jump in? You sound like a punk. Go ahead and kick someone in the head when they can’t defend themselves. If they end up dead or with a severe injury you’ll find out how effective your fighting ability is when you get raped in prison.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
How is stating the fact that most rapes are acquaintance rapes and therefore a woman should be prepared to fight in that situation a far fetched what if scenario? I suppose, by your logic, a woman should learn to fight as though she is in a barfight since that is how most rapes go down.
[/quote]
Now you’re creating strawmen. I’m very clear and concise in what I have said, and you’re getting flustered.
You are wholly unable to think outside the box. A host of other circumstances come in- things like weapons, friends, environment, etc. This ain’t UFC.
In a real fight, it never works out as neatly as it does in the UFC, as I said before.
Violence intertwines like that. What can I say. There’s nothing wrong with comparing the types of violence.
Completely irrelevant.
“If one did take place?” Man, I want to live in your happy neighborhood.
In reality, no, it happens in a plethora of ways and in the blink of an eye, and you have no idea how you’ll react until you’re there.
A ha… now I see. You have never been in a fight in your life. This explains a lot.
I don’t brag about it at all, and the long term posters here will be the first to tell you that. But the kind of lifestyle I’ve lead has led me to see and be involved in things that give me a perspective.
See, when someone like you reads about something or sees it done on the mat, you think, “Oh, that could work in this situation.” But when I do, it directly correlates to something I’ve seen, and I can put it in context. I’m not saying I’ve got more answers than anyone else, and god fucking knows there’s a million more people who know way more than me. But I do know what I’ve seen, and what I’ve been through.
And unfortunately, I know quite a few girls that have had terrible, traumatic experiences because of fucking scumbags. This hits close to home. So forgive me if I hear someone giving out advice that I really, really don’t agree with and I try to counter it. I’ve addressed the point of rape and women’s self defense NUMEROUS times in this thread- and I know the girls I know who have survived such horrid affairs fought like motherfucking cornered animals to escape.
You’re an armchair quarterback, and now I can see why you don’t think going to the ground is such a bad idea for a person.
But I seen the leftovers of people who thought the ground looked comfortable… it sucks. Just really, really sucks.
[quote]zecarlo wrote
And how many of those videos were created with law enforcement and rape experts involvement?
[/quote]
I have no idea. I’m sure every one of them had some kind of expert. But I’d rather read something by reputable people like Loren Christensen (former cop and MP) or Geoff Thompson, people who have experienced it on an everyday basis.
No, if it’s on the feet I’ll step in to. I’ve done it.
No better or worse than anyone else. The funny part is that I’m a nobody, and certainly not a predator in any way. If you think I’m a punk, the ferocity of some of the cats you come across would astound you.
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Go ahead and kick someone in the head when they can’t defend themselves. If they end up dead or with a severe injury you’ll find out how effective your fighting ability is when you get raped in prison. [/quote]
Say what you want. This is how these things work. Stick to the ring junior. I’m done with you.