Coan, definitely- especially in the context of full meet lifting. On a similar note, Goggins pulled 881 as a 242, following a mid-1000’s squat. By all accounts, he could have pulled over 900 had he discovered hook-gripping earlier in his career.
Coan, definitely- especially in the context of full meet lifting. On a similar note, Goggins pulled 881 as a 242, following a mid-1000’s squat. By all accounts, he could have pulled over 900 had he discovered hook-gripping earlier in his career.
does anyone know what these guys pulled the first time they pulled…and what makes their deadlift so strong…is it also because of their great leverages they have…short torso, long arms/legs?
I want to be a great deadlifter
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
does anyone know what these guys pulled the first time they pulled…and what makes their deadlift so strong…is it also because of their great leverages they have…short torso, long arms/legs?
I want to be a great deadlifter[/quote]
Its a combination of freakish genetics, fast twitch muscle fibers and a natural feel for the deadlift I think.
Of course they have to have a decent build for deadlifting but I dont think the build is the most important factor.
Andy bolton was used to be a sprinter when he was younger, that clearly shows he had above average hamstrings etc to start with.
Wish I knew more on the subject.
long ass arms help
[quote]Rexer666 wrote:
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.[/quote]
Yeah. Savickas’ tire deadlift is heavier than Bolton’s floor deadlift. Who knows what he could do if he switched to PL?
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Rexer666 wrote:
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.
Yeah. Savickas’ tire deadlift is heavier than Bolton’s floor deadlift. Who knows what he could do if he switched to PL?[/quote]
His partial deadlift’s stronger than someone’s off the floor deadlift??? No way…
Chuck V has done 1000+ out of the racks, but only 8something off the floor. A big rack pull from your knees means shit all (look at where the wheels leave the floor on Savickas’s deads from the Arnold.)
[quote]Hanley wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Rexer666 wrote:
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.
Yeah. Savickas’ tire deadlift is heavier than Bolton’s floor deadlift. Who knows what he could do if he switched to PL?
His partial deadlift’s stronger than someone’s off the floor deadlift??? No way…
Chuck V has done 1000+ out of the racks, but only 8something off the floor. A big rack pull from your knees means shit all (look at where the wheels leave the floor on Savickas’s deads from the Arnold.)[/quote]
Yeah I’m well aware of the HUGE difference between a tire dealift and a floor deadlift. You can lift more weight in tires than from the floor. I’m just saying that Savickas can handle that kind of weight, and if he went into PL, he could eventually pull that much off the floor. I mean it’s just speculation.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Hanley wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Rexer666 wrote:
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.
Yeah. Savickas’ tire deadlift is heavier than Bolton’s floor deadlift. Who knows what he could do if he switched to PL?
His partial deadlift’s stronger than someone’s off the floor deadlift??? No way…
Chuck V has done 1000+ out of the racks, but only 8something off the floor. A big rack pull from your knees means shit all (look at where the wheels leave the floor on Savickas’s deads from the Arnold.)
Yeah I’m well aware of the HUGE difference between a tire dealift and a floor deadlift. You can lift more weight in tires than from the floor. I’m just saying that Savickas can handle that kind of weight, and if he went into PL, he could eventually pull that much off the floor. I mean it’s just speculation.[/quote]
Look at Chuck tho, 200ish lb difference. I pulled 260 from above my knees 4 weeks before I pulled 210 off the floor. That’s about a 110lb difference.
You’ve no idea if Savickas CAN handle that much weight tho sicne they’re totally different movements. And lets not forget he was using straps. Regardless of the fact strongmen have sick grip strength, not training to pull 900+lb without straps will cause grip problems when attempting to do it under PL conditions.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
GermanPower wrote:
the best Deadlifters ever were Sandow and Goerner.
Jesus you’re full of it. Again, explain?[/quote]
LOL, they pulled the same elements without anything 100 years ago! Explanation???
[quote]hareboll wrote:
GermanPower wrote:
hareboll wrote:
Konstantin Konstantinovs 948 at 275 is nuts,
obviously coan and gant are freaks,
Oleksandr Kutcher blows my mind; 793 at 165!!!
E. Sajeeva Bhaskaran; 573 at 114…
and of course Dan Wohleber, first 900 pound deadlift ever (well, that everybody agrees on) and he did it at 21 years old, yea…
Maxim Podtynny, heaviest sumo ever at 909, the list goes on…
I guess kutcher gets my vote.
You may all want to do some research, big time ! The first deadlifter who hit the 400 KG (naturally, no suit) was Mr. Rudolph Koester (Germany). Furthermore, the best Deadlifters ever were Sandow and Goerner.
I’m sorry, how is anything I said wrong? I said the first 900 LB (read, POUND) deadlift was Dan Wohleber, last I checked a 400 kilo deadlift was 881 lbs, somebody correct me if I am wrong. Sure, this Koester guy sounds strong, more power too him, but as we are discussing the next best deadlifter after andy bolton I would have to put Konstantinovs 948 at 275 up there man. You can have your difference of opinion but I dont see how I need to do some research, BIG TIME![/quote]
The thread started, who is the world’s best deadlifter ! But I admit I did not pay any attention to the headline.
[quote]hareboll wrote:
Hell, I even found this lifter you were talking about: Rudi Kuester (from Germany, go figure) and his 882 at 308 was done in 1988 at age 33, hmm, wohlebers 900 at 268 in 1982 at age 21 pretty much kicks it ass, sorry mate.[/quote]
post the reasearch please
furthermore if you follow the discussion you will see that there are names of people posted before Mr. Bolton was even born.
[quote]GermanPower wrote:
hareboll wrote:
Hell, I even found this lifter you were talking about: Rudi Kuester (from Germany, go figure) and his 882 at 308 was done in 1988 at age 33, hmm, wohlebers 900 at 268 in 1982 at age 21 pretty much kicks it ass, sorry mate.
post the reasearch please
furthermore if you follow the discussion you will see that there are names of people posted before Mr. Bolton was even born.[/quote]
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com go to lifter rankings and check both “900 lb deadlift club” to see the list of anyone who has pulled 900 or more in competition and “top 20 all time 308” (to see your friend who hasn’t).
And as for your comment about seeing people posted before bolton was even born, I’m not really sure where you are going with that, I myself posted my opinions on a few people who lifted 15+ years before Mr. Bolton was on the scene along with people who are still pulling today.
Look, I don’t really want to get into an internet argument, if you really think this Kuester guy was the next best deadlifter after Andy Bolton, or if you really think he was better than Mr. Bolton of if you think he was the first 400 kilo deadlifter, more power to you my man, all I was doing was defending myself from your “Do some research, BIG TIME!!” comment, because you see, I already have.
[quote]GermanPower wrote:
Hanley wrote:
GermanPower wrote:
the best Deadlifters ever were Sandow and Goerner.
Jesus you’re full of it. Again, explain?
LOL, they pulled the same elements without anything 100 years ago! Explanation???
[/quote]
No, I’m with Hanley on this one, could you give us a serious explanation? You asked me for some research, now its your turn, I cant even find a number listed for Sandow’s deadlift, have you? Goerner’s one arm deadlift was freaky and I give you that one, but I cant find anything about Sandow, I’ve seen a picture of him grabbing on to a 1500 lb block of sandstone as if he is going to pull it, but as Goerner tried the same thing with a 730 lb ish block and failed I found it doubtful.
Again, I am not disrespecting Sandow as a lifter, I think it is absolutely perfect that he is the model for the Olympia sculpture, and what he did with his physique way back then was astounding, even by today’s standards, but as for next best deadlifter after Bolton, I’m gonna need you to prove it to me.
On a less argumentative tone one of the best DEADLIFTERS from back in the day, if we are going to talk about that has got to be Bob Peoples, 725 lbs at 185 (or 189) back in 1949 has got to be ridiculous.
I have to agree with all that Hareboll has said, it’s basically my thoughts on it too.
FWIW I think Lamar Gant is one of the best deadlifters EVER. 638 @ 123 for well over 5x bodyweight, 683 @ 132, again 5x bodyweight. AND he held the squat and bench world records too. You don’t often see a HUGE deadlifter being a bench specialist too. That only makes Gant all the more special. And to do it all with a spinal problem is just awesome!
Peoples is a great addition.
You also have to recognize Hideaki Inaba. Not only was he one of the greatest lifters of all time but he pulled 237.5 kilos (523.6) at 52 kilos (114) as a Masters 40-49 lifter.
Check out his accomplishments here: http://www.worldpowerlifting.info/en/lifters/JPN/1944/Inaba+Hideaki/
Every time I look at this I am blown away.
Also, no listing is complete without Brad Gillingham. This guy has pulled 800+ in competition more times than anybody and appears to be hitting a new stride as a Masters lifter so I fully expect to see great things from him in the future.
Gillingham’s pulled it 8+ 40something times now…??
Amazing consistency if nothing else. Especially from a full meet lifter.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Rexer666 wrote:
Right now, although he is not a competitive powerlifter, I bet Savickas would be up there as well. He kicks Benny Magnusson’s ass in all deadlift-related events at the IFSA strongman, although not sure what his off the floor deadlift would be.
Yeah. Savickas’ tire deadlift is heavier than Bolton’s floor deadlift. Who knows what he could do if he switched to PL?[/quote]
He did a 400kg deadlift when he competed in pl.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
I have to agree with all that Hareboll has said, it’s basically my thoughts on it too.
FWIW I think Lamar Gant is one of the best deadlifters EVER. 638 @ 123 for well over 5x bodyweight, 683 @ 132, again 5x bodyweight. [/quote]
123? are we counting anorexics? … or was he an amputee? 