Benefits from Squatting Twice a Day

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]goochadamg wrote:
The question is way too vague to comment. What are the parameters? Sets? Reps? Load? Time between sessions? Sessions in a training week? Let’s not even get into ones own personal variables …

I agree with “dyeguy1212” – stupid fucking thread.[/quote]

it was heavy loads and i feel so fuckin retarted for doing it i was forced cause i had to go to the gym so my brother could squat since he did powerlifting that day and i did the same heavy loads so the day after that i wasnt really sore i felt slow tho then the day after that which is today i woke up WIERDLY SORE i felt like shit i didnt even go to fuckin school and i woke up at 3 from 6 30 in the morning yea i feel like shit :confused:

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[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

it was heavy loads and i feel so fuckin retarted for doing it i was forced cause i had to go to the gym so my brother could squat since he did powerlifting that day and i did the same heavy loads so the day after that i wasnt really sore i felt slow tho then the day after that which is today i woke up WIERDLY SORE i felt like shit i didnt even go to fuckin school and i woke up at 3 from 6 30 in the morning yea i feel like shit :/[/quote]

i rest my case.

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I just did a 2 week spurt of 2 a days, 4 days a week. I squatted twice in one day. I deadlifted twice and squatted once in one day. I ate A TON of rice, beans, and protein and “pulsed” with quadruple cheeseburgers made from 2 dollar menu double cheeseburgers.

Then I took a week off, had a half ass week of exercising around the holidays, and I just started back in the gym today.

I generally used 70-80% of my max, all sets of 2-6. No failure. Explosive, “perfect” reps. Total volume of squats was generally between 15 and 30 reps per workout. Sometimes I threw in some light leg presses as a finisher, usually did 3 sets of calf raises.

I am going back into 5/3/1 after this little period where I had excess time/energy/drive/calories. So far, my overhead press went from 135 for 6 to 135 for 11. I really cant imagine my other lifts not following suit. Yea, Im not a powerlifter but my newbie gains are long gone, and if you believe the one rep max calculator my max OHP went up ~25 lbs to what my bodyweight was preholiday, but Im up about 6-8 lbs (and feel leaner) so still chasing that bodyweight OHP lol.

The only downside was taking the week off afterwards is such a drastically different lifestyle, and I really wanted to lift even though I knew I would push my nervous system over the edge if I went on.

So, dont have a cow. You squatted twice in a day. Youll be fine.

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[quote]elih8er wrote:

[quote]Hanley wrote:

[quote]elih8er wrote:

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Jesus Christ… how narrow minded are all you people???

Why;

  1. are you assuming he’s killing himself in both sessions
  2. dismissing something that’s proven to be brutally effective for size and strength (hello Bulgaria)

If it’s the first time you’ve ever done it, don’t worry aobut it. I ran week 1 day 3 and 4 of the Smolov base meso cycle on the same day a couple of weeks back and was fine after.

if you’ve loads of time to train and recover, and manage the load effectively, squatting 2x per day could do amazing things for your squat.[/quote]
Who were also juiced to the damn gills. The training methodology of people on anabolics will not be applicable to people not on. [/quote]

Yeah, cos we all know the SAIDs principle only applies when drug use is taken into account.
[/quote]
Pointing at the Bulgarians and saying “it worked for them!” without taking into account anabolics were a key component of their training regiment (which not only is great for building muscle, but awesome for recovery) is thoughtless. Their training system worked because of the anabolics. You only hear of the successes of the Bulgarian system of training and not the great number of people broken by it. [/quote]

The anabolics only help in the recovery of the muscles and not the CNS. I agree with one thing though, just because it worked for the Bulgarians doesn’t mean it is going to work for everyone. I think it has less to do with the anabolics and has more to do with individual’s CNS recover. Remember not everyone that wanted to become part of the their national team made it, a lot of kids couldn’t handle the emotional stress. If you listen to the Heavy Muscle Radio with Louie Simmons on it he talks about that.

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[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

it was heavy loads and i feel so fuckin retarted for doing it i was forced cause i had to go to the gym so my brother could squat since he did powerlifting that day and i did the same heavy loads so the day after that i wasnt really sore i felt slow tho then the day after that which is today i woke up WIERDLY SORE i felt like shit i didnt even go to fuckin school and i woke up at 3 from 6 30 in the morning yea i feel like shit :/[/quote]

i rest my case.[/quote]

hey i took a contrast shower cause i thought it would help and i squatted even heavier today then monday since he told me to up in weight from monday and i still did it that contrast shower helped out :smiley: but i really wish i didnt miss school cause of that shit lmao

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[quote]crashcrew56 wrote:

[quote]elih8er wrote:

[quote]Hanley wrote:

[quote]elih8er wrote:

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Jesus Christ… how narrow minded are all you people???

Why;

  1. are you assuming he’s killing himself in both sessions
  2. dismissing something that’s proven to be brutally effective for size and strength (hello Bulgaria)

If it’s the first time you’ve ever done it, don’t worry aobut it. I ran week 1 day 3 and 4 of the Smolov base meso cycle on the same day a couple of weeks back and was fine after.

if you’ve loads of time to train and recover, and manage the load effectively, squatting 2x per day could do amazing things for your squat.[/quote]
Who were also juiced to the damn gills. The training methodology of people on anabolics will not be applicable to people not on. [/quote]

Yeah, cos we all know the SAIDs principle only applies when drug use is taken into account.
[/quote]
Pointing at the Bulgarians and saying “it worked for them!” without taking into account anabolics were a key component of their training regiment (which not only is great for building muscle, but awesome for recovery) is thoughtless. Their training system worked because of the anabolics. You only hear of the successes of the Bulgarian system of training and not the great number of people broken by it. [/quote]

The anabolics only help in the recovery of the muscles and not the CNS. I agree with one thing though, just because it worked for the Bulgarians doesn’t mean it is going to work for everyone. I think it has less to do with the anabolics and has more to do with individual’s CNS recover. Remember not everyone that wanted to become part of the their national team made it, a lot of kids couldn’t handle the emotional stress. If you listen to the Heavy Muscle Radio with Louie Simmons on it he talks about that.[/quote]

eh i actually felt better after i took a contrast shower it helped alot and i had to squat heavy again today and i did with ease :smiley:

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You did heavy squats again today!? Why?

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aaaahhhh too many squats. you must be posting from beyond the grave!

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[quote]milktruck wrote:
aaaahhhh too many squats. you must be posting from beyond the grave![/quote]

i squat heavy deadlift heavy and bench 3 x a week i recover pretty easy but squatting 2x a day i will never do that only on vacation so i dont miss school :smiley:

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I usually do 2 a days during finals week when Im in school. When I was working there was barely time for 3 days a week…

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A lifter where I train does some form of modified Sheiko routine. It’s not uncommon for him to train for 16 hours in a week, this is spread over four days and on some of those days he trains twice. On each of those days he trains some form of squat or deadlift, usually both. While I think it has happened that he’s done two squatting sessions on the same day it’s more common that he squats in the morning and does squat accessory in the evening and that seems like a better approach to me.

My point is that yes, you can squat twice a day but you need to know what you’re doing and be smart about it. The body can handle a metric fuckton of training if you’re used to it but you need to build up to it. The guy I’m talking about has trained like this for a long time and he’s both methodical and intelligent. He also admits that he’s a traning addict and actually enjoys spending all that time at the gym. :wink:

The way I see it is that if you don’t have a good reason to do it, don’t.

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[quote]goochadamg wrote:
The question is way too vague to comment. What are the parameters? Sets? Reps? Load? Time between sessions? Sessions in a training week? Let’s not even get into ones own personal variables …

I agree with “dyeguy1212” – stupid fucking thread.[/quote]

How you can be even remotely interested in getting bigger and stronger and find this discussion to be ‘stupid’ is beyond me.

I’m not sure I have much to add except to say that OBVIOUSLY hanley has a very good point - this can and has been done. In addition tho, while I would not have phrased my response as elih8ter did, I would point out that there are LOTS of differences between bulgarians and the avg trainee here, of which drugs might be the least of your concerns - you’re also talking about early-life athlete selection, the time to do this and recovery, the recovery methods (massage, etc) and perhaps most importantly, COACHES with the EXPERIENCE to know how to regulate the volume, get the lifters to adapt, etc

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[quote]Matsa wrote:
My point is that yes, you can squat twice a day but you need to know what you’re doing and be smart about it. The body can handle a metric fuckton of training if you’re used to it but you need to build up to it. The guy I’m talking about has trained like this for a long time and he’s both methodical and intelligent. He also admits that he’s a traning addict and actually enjoys spending all that time at the gym. :wink:

The way I see it is that if you don’t have a good reason to do it, don’t.[/quote]

This, ESPECIALLY the bolded part. I wouldn’t even go so far as to say you need a “good” reason, just a reason. ‘I like to train,’ or ‘I’m trying it for 8 weeks to see the results’ are good reasons, ‘I dunno’ or ‘More is better’ are not.

Other than that 1) be smart 2) progress gradually

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[quote]milktruck wrote:
I just did a 2 week spurt of 2 a days, 4 days a week. I squatted twice in one day. I deadlifted twice and squatted once in one day. I ate A TON of rice, beans, and protein and “pulsed” with quadruple cheeseburgers made from 2 dollar menu double cheeseburgers.

Then I took a week off, had a half ass week of exercising around the holidays, and I just started back in the gym today.

I generally used 70-80% of my max, all sets of 2-6. No failure. Explosive, “perfect” reps. Total volume of squats was generally between 15 and 30 reps per workout. Sometimes I threw in some light leg presses as a finisher, usually did 3 sets of calf raises.

I am going back into 5/3/1 after this little period where I had excess time/energy/drive/calories. So far, my overhead press went from 135 for 6 to 135 for 11. I really cant imagine my other lifts not following suit. Yea, Im not a powerlifter but my newbie gains are long gone, and if you believe the one rep max calculator my max OHP went up ~25 lbs to what my bodyweight was preholiday, but Im up about 6-8 lbs (and feel leaner) so still chasing that bodyweight OHP lol.

The only downside was taking the week off afterwards is such a drastically different lifestyle, and I really wanted to lift even though I knew I would push my nervous system over the edge if I went on.

So, dont have a cow. You squatted twice in a day. Youll be fine.[/quote]

I’ve been thinking about doing 5/3/1 twice a day. Something like having the big lift in the morning with a few accessorys. Then the big lift again at night with a BBB style. Something like 5x10 real light and a few more accessorys.

This thread was interesting to me b/c i’ve never lifted twice a day before(i’m finishing my last semester of college now and this is my last time to do it before i work 9-5).

Anyone have any ideas for this or comments on how it might play out? I’ll obviously be tracking my food and eating a shit ton more.

not trying to be a thread theif but…

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[quote]elih8er wrote:
Pointing at the Bulgarians and saying “it worked for them!” without taking into account anabolics were a key component of their training regiment (which not only is great for building muscle, but awesome for recovery) is thoughtless. Their training system worked because of the anabolics. You only hear of the successes of the Bulgarian system of training and not the great number of people broken by it. [/quote]

Do you ever post anything meaningful? Seriously. Everything I read from you is argumentative and adss nothing to the conversation. You’re a general pain in the balls.

Not to mention if I remember correctly you are some 6’1 155# guy who is a self-proclaimed jumping expert. What the fuck practical experience do you have applying Easter Blok principals on those looking to improve squat performance. I don’t think this guy is some froshman who wants to be able to dunk.

Literally thousands of people have taken Russian, Bulgarian, Ukranian and Polish trainin methodologies and used them very successfully drug free.

Your whole premise is absolutely ridiculous and dismissive of some of the most tried and proven training methodologies on teh planet.

The point being everybody recovers differently and total training volume and intensity needs to be managed effectively to make any program work.

There is no reason doing this as a component of a broader training cycle won’t be effective unless volume and intensity aren’t managed correctly.

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I’d love to have the time and recovery resources to train twice a day.

Obviously you just can’t double your normal training loads and volumes when doing this, but definitely something I’d like to try for a month or so.

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Squatting is bad for you. Its bad for your spinal erectors. Squatting twice a day is twice as bad for your spinal erectors. I never squat because its so bad for you. When I did squat, I got 770 to a 4inch box for 5. But, then I hurt my spinal erectors.

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
Squatting is bad for you. Its bad for your spinal erectors. Squatting twice a day is twice as bad for your spinal erectors. I never squat because its so bad for you. When I did squat, I got 770 to a 4inch box for 5. But, then I hurt my spinal erectors.[/quote]

Wow, that is funny. A friggin 4" box. I can just see someone trying to set that up, instead of using a 4x4.

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[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

it was heavy loads and i feel so fuckin retarted for doing it i was forced cause i had to go to the gym so my brother could squat since he did powerlifting that day and i did the same heavy loads so the day after that i wasnt really sore i felt slow tho then the day after that which is today i woke up WIERDLY SORE i felt like shit i didnt even go to fuckin school and i woke up at 3 from 6 30 in the morning yea i feel like shit :/[/quote]

i rest my case.[/quote]

hey i took a contrast shower cause i thought it would help and i squatted even heavier today then monday since he told me to up in weight from monday and i still did it that contrast shower helped out :smiley: but i really wish i didnt miss school cause of that shit lmao
[/quote]

i read all your posts in the voice of a 3rd grader hopped up on mountain dew and birthday cake.

you have got to learn how to use punctuation if you want to be taken seriously.

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[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]jeminz92 wrote:

it was heavy loads and i feel so fuckin retarted for doing it i was forced cause i had to go to the gym so my brother could squat since he did powerlifting that day and i did the same heavy loads so the day after that i wasnt really sore i felt slow tho then the day after that which is today i woke up WIERDLY SORE i felt like shit i didnt even go to fuckin school and i woke up at 3 from 6 30 in the morning yea i feel like shit :/[/quote]

i rest my case.[/quote]

hey i took a contrast shower cause i thought it would help and i squatted even heavier today then monday since he told me to up in weight from monday and i still did it that contrast shower helped out :smiley: but i really wish i didnt miss school cause of that shit lmao
[/quote]

i read all your posts in the voice of a 3rd grader hopped up on mountain dew and birthday cake.

you have got to learn how to use punctuation if you want to be taken seriously.[/quote]

Im sorry im not a nerd like you and care how i write. You really spend your time typing in a formal matter damn you really give a fuck . You also said you rest your case like you were right i have no problem squatting twice a day i might do it for a month if i want to it still makes me a man and you a pussy. thanks i win. I REST MY CASE.