[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
laroyal wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ill believe it when someone offers up something to counter argue. until then dont look at me like im an idiot when i noticed it helps me do better because i dont use any energy from my warmup lifts.
a 225 bench doesnt need a warmup, if want to play with form or something first thats different. you can do that with the bar, but warming up just to warm up makes no sense to me.
You are missing the big picture, a warm-up isn’t about building up to a weight although it does help with that, properly done a warm up will increase your performance by:
1.) Increasing Joint Mobility and range of motion
2.) Priming the nervous system
These 2 things alone make it worthwile but, if you still are not convinced consider this, do you think Derek Jetter walks up to bat without taking a warm up swing, no even as good as he is (the best in my book) he would not perform well. The bat doesn’t weigh close to 400lbs but he warms up none the less for the exact reasons listed above. A weightlifting example:
Wether you are talking about Westside Barbell (where I personally train)
The PPC -Poliquin Performance Center- where I got my certification
or Parisi Speed School (my friend owns the one in Indiana)
Every one of those places has EVERYONE warm up irregardless of weight and goals and I don’t think you can argue with any of those results.
Bottom line, if you are not warming up you could be better than you are and certainly safer!!!
ok so derek jeter takes a few swings before he swings a bat. what does that have to do with lifting weights?
if you were going to move a couch into your freinds apartment would you do a warmup first?
no, you wouldnt. so there, counterpoint. what im saying is that youre comparing hitting a baseball to lifting a weight for size. not the same thing.
i expend less energy by just jumping into a work set and therefore lift a greater load for greater reps keep in mind a load which im using because its going to build muslce versus using a lighter load which wont give muscular benfits BUT WILL drain energy. so why do that? my elbow isnt going to snap under the weight of a 225lb bench press and its not going to any easier to lift after i just did a waste set, not a warmup set.
the counter arguments are frigging stupid and any logic.
youre telling me a weight your tendons cant handle a weight you normally rep at 8 for unless you do a set of 5 with 50% weight beforehand? where is the logic in that? if your body can handle 8 reps AFTER you just applied stress it damn certainly can handle that SAME WEIGHT AS LAST TIME before additional stress.
do you guys ever just try stuff out or do you always just do what say or do because its “the way”? cause it seems to me theres no valid counterpoints and everyone is just pushing for warmups because thats what they think the norm is. im not trying to be a dickhead but i offer up a different way of doing something and while no one has ever tried it who argues against it i automatically get labeled as wrong. you ever get tired of those strings?[/quote]
The baseball analogy is an example of priming the nervous system for peak performance, there isn’t a league for couch moving or I would warm up.
What about the other 3 examples, Westside, PPC and Parisi Speed school, are they all missing the boat?
I used to jump right in as you say (before I knew any better) and that is how I partially tore a hamstring to show for it.
Since adding warm ups my performance has improved as have the clients I work with.
You may not have the 6-9 minutes to warm up properly now, but chances are when you are sidelined for 3 months with an injury you will and then we can talk more.
Finally, if you are “wasting energy” warming up then you are not doing it properly and that simply means you need to educate yourself about how to warm up properly and I am sure you will find your energy, rom, and performance are all BETTER after your warm up.
Do as you choose but, be responsible enough not to give advice to a newbie that could be detrimental.