It’s funny…even if I hadn’t found this guy on familywatchdog (lives three blocks from my house,) I’d still figure him for a registered pedophile.
I think one essential part of the vigilante code would be to focus on crimes against people not property, and to only step in when the law can’t, unless someone was in immenent danger.
Examples:
Someone breaks into your neighbor’s house while they are on vacation. Not your problem.
Someone breaks into your 80 year old neighbor’s house, and murders her in a botched robbery. The cops catch the guy, but don’t have enough evidence to hold him. You shoot the motherfucker in the knees and drop him in the river. If he makes it to shore you let him live to think about what he’s done and try to make amends.
An area that more vigilante’s should work in would be white collar crime.
For Example, a piece of shit CEO who makes an eight figure salary for running his company into the ground, robs his employee’s pensions, and defrauds stockholders of their life savings and, gets a 2 year suspended sentence to some club fed “penal” institution, that is if anyone even bothers to prosecute him. To give this man a taste of justice would require some elaborate Count of Monte Cristo style plot to rob him of his ill gotten wealth and humiliate him publicly.
But if you’re on a budget you could just shoot him in the knees and drop him in the river.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Sometimes it really does become a man’s responsibility to administer justice himself. But let’s not get carried away- a lot of people who fancy themselves as vigilantes are really just angry, vindictive, impulsive pricks caught up in disputes that they’re half to blame for[/quote]
Well said.
[quote]Jerkwad wrote:
It’s funny…even if I hadn’t found this guy on familywatchdog (lives three blocks from my house,) I’d still figure him for a registered pedophile.[/quote]
Lol. There are people like that where I live, its funny.
And Uncle Gabby, are you a vigilante or general sadist, you seem to have an obsession with shooting people in the knees and putting them in rivers.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I think one essential part of the vigilante code would be to focus on crimes against people not property, and to only step in when the law can’t, unless someone was in immenent danger.
Examples:
Someone breaks into your neighbor’s house while they are on vacation. Not your problem.
Someone breaks into your 80 year old neighbor’s house, and murders her in a botched robbery. The cops catch the guy, but don’t have enough evidence to hold him. You shoot the motherfucker in the knees and drop him in the river. If he makes it to shore you let him live to think about what he’s done and try to make amends.
An area that more vigilante’s should work in would be white collar crime.
For Example, a piece of shit CEO who makes an eight figure salary for running his company into the ground, robs his employee’s pensions, and defrauds stockholders of their life savings and, gets a 2 year suspended sentence to some club fed “penal” institution, that is if anyone even bothers to prosecute him. To give this man a taste of justice would require some elaborate Count of Monte Cristo style plot to rob him of his ill gotten wealth and humiliate him publicly.
But if you’re on a budget you could just shoot him in the knees and drop him in the river.[/quote]
lololololololol
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
For Example, a piece of shit CEO who makes an eight figure salary for running his company into the ground, robs his employee’s pensions, and defrauds stockholders of their life savings and, gets a 2 year suspended sentence to some club fed “penal” institution, that is if anyone even bothers to prosecute him. To give this man a taste of justice would require some elaborate Count of Monte Cristo style plot to rob him of his ill gotten wealth and humiliate him publicly.
But if you’re on a budget you could just shoot him in the knees and drop him in the river.[/quote]
Hell yeah! Man if you’re gonna do it, you might as well do it IN STYLE!
Revenge must be dealt with an iron fist! Quick death is not punishment enough!
It has to be like reverse terrorism in a way… strike fear into the hearts of evil men and all that. Scare people out of doing stupid and immoral things. You never know if that crazy vigilante guy is gonna come find you in the night!
If you stalk the streets looking for a random burglar to beat up, you’ll just end up wasting lots of hours and end up either getting hassled by the police and do some time, or you’ll get shot by the accomplice you didn’t know was there.
If you’re trying to make a positive affect on the level of crime in your neighborhood, you need to get to know your neighbors, and get organized. If everyone on a street or block is watching out for everyone else, criminals are more likely to get caught and stopped, and thus they will go elsewhere.
If you’re just looking to off someone who deserves it, catch them during their perp walk, like the guy in Faces of Death who just walked up and blew away the guy who raped and killed his daughter. I’m not advocating or anything, but if you’re looking for instant gratification, you have to accept the fact that taking out people, even people who commit crimes, is a crime in itself.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
I’m not advocating or anything, but if you’re looking for instant gratification, you have to accept the fact that taking out people, even people who commit crimes, is a crime in itself.[/quote]
Yes, but wouldn’t it be just as bad not to do anything when you have the ability to do so?
Letting some killers, pedophiles, and the like continue to do their thing.
Wouldn’t that be just as bad?
You’re damned if you do, and you’re [almost as] damned if you don’t.
[quote]unbending wrote:
MrRezister wrote:
I’m not advocating or anything, but if you’re looking for instant gratification, you have to accept the fact that taking out people, even people who commit crimes, is a crime in itself.
Yes, but wouldn’t it be just as bad not to do anything when you have the ability to do so?
Letting some killers, pedophiles, and the like continue to do their thing.
Wouldn’t that be just as bad?
You’re damned if you do, and you’re [almost as] damned if you don’t.[/quote]
(In a Christian Preachers voice) Amen brother
Does that keep anyone up at night, or make them think. There are people out there at this very moment doing something I know could be stopped?
[quote]enterthedojo wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
For Example, a piece of shit CEO who makes an eight figure salary for running his company into the ground, robs his employee’s pensions, and defrauds stockholders of their life savings and, gets a 2 year suspended sentence to some club fed “penal” institution, that is if anyone even bothers to prosecute him. To give this man a taste of justice would require some elaborate Count of Monte Cristo style plot to rob him of his ill gotten wealth and humiliate him publicly.
But if you’re on a budget you could just shoot him in the knees and drop him in the river.
Hell yeah! Man if you’re gonna do it, you might as well do it IN STYLE!
Revenge must be dealt with an iron fist! Quick death is not punishment enough!
It has to be like reverse terrorism in a way… strike fear into the hearts of evil men and all that. Scare people out of doing stupid and immoral things. You never know if that crazy vigilante guy is gonna come find you in the night! [/quote]
It’s shit like this that makes me think people consider vigilantism not out of any sense of public duty but simply for the possible theatrics involved…because they think it sounds cool (which is originally why I asked whether or not the OP watches Dexter).
If that’s the case, getting a hobby would be my suggestion.
Now the true question is whether to make a quick kill and run for it or abduct them and torture them slowly over a number of months?
Perhaps even take their ID, bring them home and force them to watch as you kill their entire family?
Hammurabi’s Law has always been a good one in my mind. An eye for an eye.
Take what I say with a grain of salt. I’m just brain storming.
[quote]Mikaj wrote:
Now the true question is whether to make a quick kill and run for it or abduct them and torture them slowly over a number of months?[/quote]
Quick. The less time you are there, the better chance of you not being spotted.
That and its not your responsibility to determine their punishment. Being a vigilante is about taking these people that have sluced through the courts by miracles and technicalities and preventing the evils they cause.
You want to stop them from causing harm, permanently. Not punish.
Agree?
[quote]
Perhaps even take their ID, bring them home and force them to watch as you kill their entire family?[/quote]
WTF!!! WTF!!!
What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously.
[quote]unbending wrote:
Mikaj wrote:
Perhaps even take their ID, bring them home and force them to watch as you kill their entire family?
WTF!!! WTF!!!
What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously.[/quote]
No better way to uphold justice than by murdering the innocent.
They probably would’ve fucked up sooner or later, anyhow. You know, the whole apple falling from the tree thing.