Being a Vigilante?

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Like the one guy said, start small. Mother Teresa said, ‘I do what I can, where I can, with what I have.’

For example: the dealer and her boyfriend next door. Start surveillance on them. Does he cook up while he’s there? Look for any patterns you can exploit, sleep, high, etc. If he gets high while there, keep track of his actions during that time. Does he just crash, or what? If their both high and passed out, slip on your ski mask and slip in quietly. Find some of her junk(which you would have identified during surveillance), and OD the fucker. Or both if you want. Leave no trace, don’t take anything. Wait a few days and report the odd smell(if no one else has by then). Police show up, find the bodies, H and cash, nothing appears to be stolen, just a simple OD, so no suspects.

Disclaimer: This post is for educational and/or recreational purposes only. This is not the voice of your dog Sam telling you to go kill all the druggies.

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Wow.

I’m not looking to kill pot heads or your average theives. Only the truely corrupt.

You know the kind of people I’m talking about. Early released rapists and killers, pedophiles, meth chefs. The entire black and latino gangs.

As for combat and weapons training, I think I’m doing fine. Uncle sam trains killers, unfortuneately.

I just need to find a way to keep tabs on who is entering and leaving prison.

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This kicks ass.

I’ve got twelve within a mile of my chair.

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[quote]Hadow Khan wrote:
Wow.

I’m not looking to kill pot heads or your average theives. Only the truely corrupt.

You know the kind of people I’m talking about. Early released rapists and killers, pedophiles, meth chefs. The entire black and latino gangs.

As for combat and weapons training, I think I’m doing fine. Uncle sam trains killers, unfortuneately.

I just need to find a way to keep tabs on who is entering and leaving prison.[/quote]

I would just like to say that in this case you need to take things very seriously if you ever attempt this. If you don’t absolutely know what you are doing you can very easily get yourself killed when going after some street gang.

You have to be prepared to face guns, mobsters and just generally sadistic mofos who have all sorts of knowledge with which to knock you out, torture you, and then kill you.

I would seriously suggest getting some very good training in the Special Forces or SEALS or something. Some good gear like bullet-proof vests, smoke grenades, stun-sticks and personalized firearms would also help a great deal.

Also, and I’m sure you understand, this is no movie. There won’t be any Slayer playing when you break into the Mafia warehouse. Bullets aren’t going to wonderously miss you.

The reason why people don’t generally do this vigilante stuff is because it’s dangerous, and it’s a life of sacrifice. I could write more here but I am too lazy.

Anyway, I am not trying to discourage you, I am just trying (along with everyone else here) to make sure you understand the possible consequences of getting dirty with the big, bad and the ugly.
If you actually do this stuff, then it would be awesome. Criminals in your area will be scared shitless. Attack at night, and have some kind of name for your hero, like ‘The T-Man’ or something. Or just don a Punisher T-shirt.

Interesting stuff.

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This lad had the right idea

and other stuff

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Sometimes it really does become a man’s responsibility to administer justice himself. But let’s not get carried away- a lot of people who fancy themselves as vigilantes are really just angry, vindictive, impulsive pricks caught up in disputes that they’re half to blame for

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I don’t suppose you watch Dexter, by any chance?

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And Dog shit girl ha ha

In 2005 in South Korea, bloggers targeted a woman who refused to clean up when her dog defecated on the floor of a Seoul subway car, labelling her “dog shit girl” (rough translation into English). Another commuter had taken a photograph of her and her dog, and posted it on a popular Korean website.[3] Within days, she had been identified by internet vigilantes, and much of her personal information was exposed on the Internet in an attempt to punish her for the offense. The story received mainstream attention when it was widely reported in South Korean media, and was discussed in Korean communities in the United States as well. The public humiliation led the woman to quit her university, according to reports[4].

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[quote]Hadow Khan wrote:
While reading the latest Atomic Dog, a thought came to mind, one that has been in my mind for a long time…

Vigilantism.

Has anyone ever considered it?

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I think we’d be better off with government reform than Vigilantism. One option seems unfeasible. The other option seems unethical. By becoming a Vigilante you set yourself up to be in a position where you’ve declared yourself infallible. I couldn’t deal with that. Maybe that’s not how you think of it but it’s how I think of it.

But if I do find those assholes who threw a McDonald’s Soda Bottle at me and my friend 2 weeks ago who were driving a silver Pontiac, I will fuck their world up, fuck their car up, and hand out some justice of my own that is nowhere near what due process should be. Ok, I won’t break any bones but I might piss in their gas tank.

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[quote]conner wrote:
I don’t suppose you watch Dexter, by any chance?[/quote]

I’ve heard of it. I’m not really in to television.

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[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Hadow Khan wrote:
While reading the latest Atomic Dog, a thought came to mind, one that has been in my mind for a long time…

Vigilantism.

Has anyone ever considered it?

I think we’d be better off with government reform than Vigilantism. One option seems unfeasible. The other option seems unethical. By becoming a Vigilante you set yourself up to be in a position where you’ve declared yourself infallible. I couldn’t deal with that. Maybe that’s not how you think of it but it’s how I think of it.

But if I do find those assholes who threw a McDonald’s Soda Bottle at me and my friend 2 weeks ago who were driving a silver Pontiac, I will fuck their world up, fuck their car up, and hand out some justice of my own that is nowhere near what due process should be. Ok, I won’t break any bones but I might piss in their gas tank. [/quote]

Pour sugar into their gas tank.

Government reform would be great, but crime is an urgent problem. Reform is a bureaucratical process. Bureaucracy has let down the innocent and effectively killed the hero. You can go to jail for shooting a robber in your own house, or killing a bank robber.

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I don’t see vigilantism as being wrong, but just ironic. You can’t deal justice as a Vigilante without dealing it to yourself.

Some of the answers on this thread seem like they have beeen written by 12 years old, talking about how you’d do it. Simply beat someone to death. Or kill them in their home. Make it look like a burglary.

The best people to go for would be local dealers (if your not using their services, or if they don’t go any higher than cannabis), or convicited paedophiles/rapists, who can be found on internet sites.

I would do it, just from seeing so many people in the paper who do terrible things and still live, having perhaps 6yrs ain jail. For example, a paedophile was released early, then a day or so later, climbed into s house, stole a child (about 8yrs roughly) from a bath tub, and proceeded to rape her in his car. Its the feeling that the police seem not to be able to do anything about it due to legalities, so it should be up to the society to sort these things out.

The revolving door system doesn’t work, I’d just kill people convicted of crimes, then there’d be no prisons.

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[quote]2lb Monkey wrote:
I don’t see vigilantism as being wrong, but just ironic. You can’t deal justice as a Vigilante without dealing it to yourself.
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I absolutely disagree.

Justice, in my mind, has very little/nothing to do with the law. The heinous evil we see every day has to go. It used to be the job of the police, but our estrogenized society deems law enforcement to be a priority secondary to gay rights, baby otters, and the PC mindset that every human is a perfect snowflake deserving a personal cake every day of the week. Its the job of the strong, the afraid but determined, the T-Men, to protect the innocent and punish the wicked. Thats justice.

God gave us iron. He gave us strength. He gave us responsibility.

And YOU know it.

Why do we strive to present a heroic image? Because there is something within ourselves, something socially repressed, something that stirs within our hearts.

Sometimes it ends with cypionate, propionate, or enanthate, but its there.

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Hit up some of the local gun shows, lots of goodies can be found there. You can pay in cash, buy all kinds of supplies, and not stand out among the crowd.

Get a concealed handgun permit then you can walk into any gun shop buy any gun and walk out with it. Or just buy and trade thru fiends, family, and aquaintences.

.22 pitols can kill people, and they are barely louder than your average firecrackers.

The human body makes for a nice silencer so keep it up close and personal. There are lots of variations in ammunition beyond that of traditional ball lead and hollowpoints. Many of these make small entry wounds, make a big mess inside the target, and have no exit wounds.

The biggest obstacle isn’t eliminating your target but doing so in a manner that doesn’t bring attention to yourself.

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[quote]2lb Monkey wrote:
The best people to go for would be local dealers (if your not using their services, or if they don’t go any higher than cannabis), or convicited paedophiles/rapists, who can be found on internet sites.
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I don’t agree with the local dealers thing. You know how many kids at one point sold drugs and ended up turning their life around for the good? I had a friend who sold quite a bit of coke. Then, one day he got beat up by a bunch of black guys he was selling to. He stopped selling coke, went back to school, and now he’s in university. I don’t think he deserved to be killed.

Pedophiles on the other hand, have a disorder that will never leave them. It is unfortunate, but they cannot be allowed to live in our society. Obviously, the government doesn’t currently have the power to hand out death sentences for them, so in this case I would support vigilantism.

Crack addicts also cause a lot of problems with things such as home break ins and muggings. When my house was broken into, I did have the urge to go downtown and fuck with the crackheads. BUT, although these people may seem like the scum of the earth, some do recover from their addiction and fix their lives. These people are not inherently evil. Since we do not know what they will do with their lives, we cannot justify killing them.

So, in conclusion, the only people I can think of who should be put down vigilante style are pedophiles and people who murder for pleasure. There are truly evil people in this world, and we should do everything in our power to rid society of them, but it is just very difficult to tell with most criminals what is going on in their heads/soul. Only God knows.

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[quote]Jerkwad wrote:
Contrl wrote:
there is no justified disobedience of a law that is not unjust;

This phrase uses a triple-negative and a redundancy. If you’re trying to be confusing, just learn another language and skip the hatchet job on the one the rest of us enjoy.

O.P: Read Darkly Dreaming Dexter, and watch the Showtime series based on the book. Very riveting stuff.[/quote]

There is neither a triple negative, nor a redundancy. I do apologize, however, if you found it confusing. My intention was for it to be understood by an average intelligent man; not the typical peasant.

The logic behind that argument is the simple concept of reductio ad absurdum.

I assure you, if you were to brush up on your grammar and semantics, it makes perfect sense. Otherwise I suggest sticking to Dr. Seuss or Lewis Carroll books.

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[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
2lb Monkey wrote:
The best people to go for would be local dealers (if your not using their services, or if they don’t go any higher than cannabis), or convicited paedophiles/rapists, who can be found on internet sites.

I don’t agree with the local dealers thing. You know how many kids at one point sold drugs and ended up turning their life around for the good? I had a friend who sold quite a bit of coke. Then, one day he got beat up by a bunch of black guys he was selling to. He stopped selling coke, went back to school, and now he’s in university. I don’t think he deserved to be killed.

Pedophiles on the other hand, have a disorder that will never leave them. It is unfortunate, but they cannot be allowed to live in our society. Obviously, the government doesn’t currently have the power to hand out death sentences for them, so in this case I would support vigilantism.

Crack addicts also cause a lot of problems with things such as home break ins and muggings. When my house was broken into, I did have the urge to go downtown and fuck with the crackheads. BUT, although these people may seem like the scum of the earth, some do recover from their addiction and fix their lives. These people are not inherently evil. Since we do not know what they will do with their lives, we cannot justify killing them.

So, in conclusion, the only people I can think of who should be put down vigilante style are pedophiles and people who murder for pleasure. There are truly evil people in this world, and we should do everything in our power to rid society of them, but it is just very difficult to tell with most criminals what is going on in their heads/soul. Only God knows.

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I agree here. But not so much about the drug dealers. They make the choice to do it. Ok yhour friend was beaten up and changed, but does he know what he has done to others by selling coke. I’m saying that some drug dealers are as bad as pleasure murderers, in that they are destroying other peoples lives.

Paedophiles definately, as they don’t get as much as they should in jail (about 7 years in one horrible case in England, which is nothing compared to what the child has to endure their entire life).

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[quote]Hadow Khan wrote:

Government reform would be great, but crime is an urgent problem.

[/quote]

That’s the best argument against mine. On a weekly basis I always hear some kid talk some shit or see people do something that makes me think if we were living in the lawless land of the western American frontier someone would kick these kids asses. Personally I’m not as motivated as all of you to be Vigilantes. I’ll acknowledge that my feelings could always change.

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[quote]2lb Monkey wrote:

Paedophiles definately, as they don’t get as much as they should in jail (about 7 years in one horrible case in England, which is nothing compared to what the child has to endure their entire life). [/quote]

Those are the type of cases that make me wonder where the judicial system goes wrong. If technicalities in the law, or zealous judges are to blame, I’d like to know.

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[quote]Hadow Khan wrote:
I’m not looking to kill pot heads or your average theives. Only the truely corrupt.[/quote]

I think boatguy mentioned Dealers. Not addicts. Dealers.

Whole different world.