For those in favor of behind the neck presses, can an appropriate ROM be agreed upon? I know RETARD mentioned not going below the ears.
“Here I go again beating the Eric Cressy fan club drum! If you are having problems with external rotation give Eric a shout. He sent me a article on rotator cuff (External rotation movements) that healed my shoulders completely. I now do these at least once a week. If you want the article PM me your e-mail and I’ll shoot it out to you.”
Hey, Phatman! I’d love it if you could shoot that article to me. My problem is only intermittent, and seems to flair up only when I’m really hitting the barbell bench press good and hard, but it still sounds like valuable info.
If you get a chance, I’d sure appreciate it. My email address [not allowed on forum - MOD] Thanks a lot!
Mike
Well diesel, I can only tell you that from my 18 plus years of experence. That when I do BTNP within two months I always develope shoulder problems. When I was in my twentys I was doing BTNP with 315 for sets of 3, so I pretty sure that I had strong enough shoulders to handle the weight properly and yet still I would have shoulder problems.
For me the risk is just not worth the reward when there are so many other ways to train them. Take it for what its worth, but if your having problems doing these and your shoulders are always hurting, switch them out.
Behind the Neck Presses/Pulldowns expose the shoulder girdle for the weak, fragile bitch of a body part that it is.
If body parts were cars, the shoulder girdle would be a Yugo, crappy design and about as durable as that “massager” that was up for sale at Timmy P’s garage sale last weekend.
Of all the human bodies design flaws only the moronic decision to place our Balls on the outside of the body where they are exposed to young childrens fists and line drives is stupider.
Use rotator cuff execises to increase overall girdle strength and Dumbells for pressing so that the plane used is one that is NATURAL, if you concentrate on keeping your elbows “back” the plane will travel right through your noggin’ and will help you avoid all that nasty “clicking, cluncking and pain”.
In my never really that humble opinion.
“It is much easier to modify an opinion if one has not already persuasively declared it”
~ David H. Souter
Cake this is a Classic, I bow to your superb word smith abilities. This one is going in my tag line, with all proper acknowledgements to you my friend.
Were not worthy, Were not worthy…
I have to agree with the majority of the guys on using DBs. I say this do to an dislocated should that occured in highschool football. Even though that was many years ago I still have issues with it. So I only use DBs to do military presses. In going through physical therapy I learned that the rotator cuff muscles are very weak and most lifters don’t exercise them enough. So I make it a point to exercise my rotator cuff muscles prior to any shoulder workout and I haven’t had any problems since. So just try what works for you. If the bar feels weird use the DBs.