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[quote]halfbreed wrote:
So basically, If you preform squats or variations on a leg spec program, going for bikeriding would help recovery? It occured to me after we lost our car in a crsah and i’m not biking to work that it’s mostly cocentric work. Or am I totally wrong about this?[/quote]

Tom Platz use to bike to the gym and had the best legs of all time. Sprint cyclists have some of the biggest quads around and they do a TON of concentric only work when biking, often against resistance.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]halfbreed wrote:
So basically, If you preform squats or variations on a leg spec program, going for bikeriding would help recovery? It occured to me after we lost our car in a crsah and i’m not biking to work that it’s mostly cocentric work. Or am I totally wrong about this?[/quote]

Tom Platz use to bike to the gym and had the best legs of all time. Sprint cyclists have some of the biggest quads around and they do a TON of concentric only work when biking, often against resistance.[/quote]

thnx coach!
And who would mind having bigger legs?!:stuck_out_tongue:

As a saying in norway goes; “you won’t get solid branches without massive roots”

Coach,

I had a question and wasn’t sure if this is the right place to ask…anyway…In my understanding, fat loss is actually a process in which fat cell releases its contents (triaglycerol) into the bloodstream as free fatty acids. These FFA’s are then transported, through the blood, to the muscle tissues that need them. This explains things like the V Diet. In an extremely calorically deficient state, the body will look to alternative sources of energy, because there are not enough nutrients being put in the body to support daily activities. The V Diet also consists of massive doses of protein and low carbohydrates. In theory, I suppose that the body will burn fat and carbohydrate stores for energy? Is this correct?

That being said, why does a bodybuilder interested in hypertrophy have to have an excess of calories? Won’t any caloric excess get stored as fat? The goal of bulking is to enlarge muscles, not stretch out fat cells that have been shrunken after an intense cutting cycle. If this is the case, then why can’t a bodybuilder simply take in enough calories to sustain his/her bodily function, and no more. I’ve heard bodybuilders talking about taking in an excess of 2,500 calories a day…unless they’re using steroids, isn’t that only going to lead to massive fat gain?

On a side note, I was curious about your take on a part of the V-Diet. I know this is Shugart’s territoty, but a fresh point of view would be very helpful. If I went from running 5-6 miles and doing a Crossfit-like lift 5 days a week to the V-Diet, couldn’t I throw a little cardio in the mix? Couldn’t I intensify the caloric deficit? I wouldn’t do any long, slow distance, slow twitch cardio, but rather interval repeats that barely draw on glycogen stores as their main source of energy.

I wouldn’t have enough glycogen to run 10 miles without crashing anyway, but I do believe I could easily get through a fartlek interval session if I had a serving of Surge Recovery fuel immediately following. Any advice would be awesome…and my knowledge of the body and its processes are limited, so if I was wrong in any of my previous statements, please let me know. Thanks a lot

[quote]hlss09 wrote:
Coach,

I had a question and wasn’t sure if this is the right place to ask…anyway…In my understanding, fat loss is actually a process in which fat cell releases its contents (triaglycerol) into the bloodstream as free fatty acids. These FFA’s are then transported, through the blood, to the muscle tissues that need them. This explains things like the V Diet. In an extremely calorically deficient state, the body will look to alternative sources of energy, because there are not enough nutrients being put in the body to support daily activities. The V Diet also consists of massive doses of protein and low carbohydrates. In theory, I suppose that the body will burn fat and carbohydrate stores for energy? Is this correct?

That being said, why does a bodybuilder interested in hypertrophy have to have an excess of calories? Won’t any caloric excess get stored as fat? The goal of bulking is to enlarge muscles, not stretch out fat cells that have been shrunken after an intense cutting cycle. If this is the case, then why can’t a bodybuilder simply take in enough calories to sustain his/her bodily function, and no more. I’ve heard bodybuilders talking about taking in an excess of 2,500 calories a day…unless they’re using steroids, isn’t that only going to lead to massive fat gain?

On a side note, I was curious about your take on a part of the V-Diet. I know this is Shugart’s territoty, but a fresh point of view would be very helpful. If I went from running 5-6 miles and doing a Crossfit-like lift 5 days a week to the V-Diet, couldn’t I throw a little cardio in the mix? Couldn’t I intensify the caloric deficit? I wouldn’t do any long, slow distance, slow twitch cardio, but rather interval repeats that barely draw on glycogen stores as their main source of energy.

I wouldn’t have enough glycogen to run 10 miles without crashing anyway, but I do believe I could easily get through a fartlek interval session if I had a serving of Surge Recovery fuel immediately following. Any advice would be awesome…and my knowledge of the body and its processes are limited, so if I was wrong in any of my previous statements, please let me know. Thanks a lot [/quote]

Building muscle requires more than protein. The whole process of building muscle is a physiological action that is energy-dependent. In other words the body requires energy and protein to build muscle.

See it this way… proteins are the bricks you use to build a house. And the energy/fuel used is the construction worker’s salary.

Furthermore, being in a caloric deficit causes hormonal reactions that are not conductive to adding muscle.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]hlss09 wrote:
Coach,

I had a question and wasn’t sure if this is the right place to ask…anyway…In my understanding, fat loss is actually a process in which fat cell releases its contents (triaglycerol) into the bloodstream as free fatty acids. These FFA’s are then transported, through the blood, to the muscle tissues that need them. This explains things like the V Diet. In an extremely calorically deficient state, the body will look to alternative sources of energy, because there are not enough nutrients being put in the body to support daily activities. The V Diet also consists of massive doses of protein and low carbohydrates. In theory, I suppose that the body will burn fat and carbohydrate stores for energy? Is this correct?

That being said, why does a bodybuilder interested in hypertrophy have to have an excess of calories? Won’t any caloric excess get stored as fat? The goal of bulking is to enlarge muscles, not stretch out fat cells that have been shrunken after an intense cutting cycle. If this is the case, then why can’t a bodybuilder simply take in enough calories to sustain his/her bodily function, and no more. I’ve heard bodybuilders talking about taking in an excess of 2,500 calories a day…unless they’re using steroids, isn’t that only going to lead to massive fat gain?

On a side note, I was curious about your take on a part of the V-Diet. I know this is Shugart’s territoty, but a fresh point of view would be very helpful. If I went from running 5-6 miles and doing a Crossfit-like lift 5 days a week to the V-Diet, couldn’t I throw a little cardio in the mix? Couldn’t I intensify the caloric deficit? I wouldn’t do any long, slow distance, slow twitch cardio, but rather interval repeats that barely draw on glycogen stores as their main source of energy.

I wouldn’t have enough glycogen to run 10 miles without crashing anyway, but I do believe I could easily get through a fartlek interval session if I had a serving of Surge Recovery fuel immediately following. Any advice would be awesome…and my knowledge of the body and its processes are limited, so if I was wrong in any of my previous statements, please let me know. Thanks a lot [/quote]

Building muscle requires more than protein. The whole process of building muscle is a physiological action that is energy-dependent. In other words the body requires energy and protein to build muscle.

See it this way… proteins are the bricks you use to build a house. And the energy/fuel used is the construction worker’s salary.

Furthermore, being in a caloric deficit causes hormonal reactions that are not conductive to adding muscle.

[/quote]

Ok, well, I was mainly curious about what would happen if a person were to do interval type running drills while in a calorically deficient state. Take for example a V-Dieter who decided to throw in 60 sec hard run followed by 60 sec rest, 6-8 repeats. I could do this on a workout day. Shugart says this wouldn’t be good, but I was wondering what your opinion would be on the matter. As mentioned, I’m already very fit - just did a half marathon, have been lifting for a while, etc…Anyway, I’m not worried about building muscle. On the V-Diet I get 220ish grams of protein a day, so I won’t lose any muscle either. So wouldn’t throwing in some interval training, or even circuits, simply speed up the fat loss process? Thanks

Sounds to me like the new Training Lab program is based on SuperCompensation.

Destroying a muscle group 4 days in a row then moving on the next week to another body part and destroying that one then allowing for supercompensation to skyrocket gains. Neural charge workouts on the days following the 4 days to renew CNS for following week’s destruction.

Deliberate and carefully planned overtraining.

What sort of bodyweight jumps are we talking about for the neural charge workout. I want to do these at home and am wondering what to do for it? Are clap pushups, jump squats, Rows and med ball slams an ok combo?

[quote]thrasher_09 wrote:
What sort of bodyweight jumps are we talking about for the neural charge workout. I want to do these at home and am wondering what to do for it? Are clap pushups, jump squats, Rows and med ball slams an ok combo?[/quote]

Yes that’s fine… any explosive and non-fatiguing exercise will do.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]thrasher_09 wrote:
What sort of bodyweight jumps are we talking about for the neural charge workout. I want to do these at home and am wondering what to do for it? Are clap pushups, jump squats, Rows and med ball slams an ok combo?[/quote]

Yes that’s fine… any explosive and non-fatiguing exercise will do.[/quote]

Thank you for the reply!

What do you suggest for somebody just coming off the V Diet who is pretty lean. I ran half marathons before the V Diet, but had awful eating habits. Doing the V Diet was for burning the last of my fat and changing food consumption. I’m torn on what program to use in terms of strength training. there is so much legitimate science out there, but every article conflicts with another article!!! I don’t know what to do!!! By the way in 6 foot 3 and bounce around 175 to 185, pretty lean with a solid amount of muscle. Any advice from anyone would be great

salut Christian, question de meme, entraînes tu des thriathletes sinon connaîs tu un coach qui est pas poyé dans les dogmes??? en attendant de tes nouvelles, keep on rocking!

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