Batman Vs. Ironman

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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Iron man, the only way batman would have a chance is if Tony Stark used one of his older armors and that would still be iffy. The Extremis armor that tony stark uses has night vision as well as a heartbeat sensor so stealth isnt an option which is Batmans only real advantage. The Extremis armor also has a emp emitter so presumably the armor is emp shielded. Besides Tony Stark has gone toe to toe with the hulk, not to mention the Asgardians i doubt that a man who has taken on gods would have much trouble with some emo guy in a fetish suit who hunts poor people for sport.[/quote]

Batman takes on Superman all the time.

Besides, Ironman is just a bunch of cheap bullshit and an obvious copy of Batman. Don’t underestimate the mindset of someone who hunts other human for sport.

The likely scenario here is that Batman would be the one going after Ironman, assuming Ironman didn’t just fall out of some other dimension and into Gotham City one night. Batman would always be extremely suspicious of a guy like Starks. So as long as Starks didn’t just fall out of another dimension and Batman was aware of his existence already, Batman would undoubtedly have some sort of plan for dealing with Ironman. The only reason they would clash is if Ironman got out of line and was some sort of threat, or potentially stood in Batman’s way.

I would guess that Wayne Enterprises would engage in some corporate espionage targeted at Starks Industries. The likelihood is that Batman would actually be going after Ironman in an another Ironman suit. Batman would probably make some Bat-specific adjustments to the suit, perhaps upgraded night vision capabilities of some sort, but there is simply no way Batman is stupid enough to go to battle against Ironman without a suit of his own that puts him on equal footing with Ironman. And if the playing field is leveled in respect to the suits, Starks is at a very large disadvantage in literally every other way possible.

Take away the Ironman suit and Starks is a nobody. Take away the Batsuit and Wayne is still someone who gets off on hunting people at night. [/quote]

I agree with everything you have said so far. But I think we have to throw a variable in there. Is the fight something that batman knows is coming or is it just a random encounter that happens all of a sudden? While I do think that Batman will plan for any eventuality, including taking on Ironman, will he have those resources ready to go anytime, anywhere?

Batman would definitively destroy Ironman, but what if it was a chance encounter while he was at dinner? Would Batman be ready at that particular time and place?[/quote]
Batman has true stealth though. If ironman breaks into Batman’s mansion, chances are Bruce sneaks away before ironman finds him. Then after ironman searches the place and turns up nothing, he leaves empty handed and goes back to his mansion where Batman is already waiting for him in the shadows
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Jarvis[/quote]

Batman hacks Jarvis, has ironman suit rape Stark, the end…[/quote]

That’s one of Stark’s strong points. It wouldn’t be that simple. Batman wouldn’t be able to simply hack the Iron Man suit. Of course, if you’re in love with Batman, like many are, you probably think he’d be able to.
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Doesn’t agent Colson (sp?) override Starks security protocols and waltz right in during the Avengers movie? Yeah, I’m pretty sure that happened. [/quote]
I thought he was let in. I don’t remember that scene very well.[/quote]

I know for sure at some point Jarvis’ security protocols are overriden. It might not be in Avengers, but I’m pretty sure it is. Also lets not forget Stark walks in at the end of, I beleive IronMan 2, and the lights are out, Jarvis is off line, and Nic Fury is standing in the dark. If Fury can do it, Batman can too.

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Iron man, the only way batman would have a chance is if Tony Stark used one of his older armors and that would still be iffy. The Extremis armor that tony stark uses has night vision as well as a heartbeat sensor so stealth isnt an option which is Batmans only real advantage. The Extremis armor also has a emp emitter so presumably the armor is emp shielded. Besides Tony Stark has gone toe to toe with the hulk, not to mention the Asgardians i doubt that a man who has taken on gods would have much trouble with some emo guy in a fetish suit who hunts poor people for sport.[/quote]

I believe batman also has a metallic suit which grants him superhuman strength and speed, on top of his gadgets. Combine that with his League of Shadows martial arts training by Ra’s Al Ghul (spelling?), batman beats ironman.


Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.

I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]
Unless they plotkai in Bruce Wayne Green Lantern effectively trolling almost everyone… but yeah I agree the arguments a lot of people make for Batman are pretty dumb. A lot of them might as well just say “Because he’s Batman” and coincidentally… a lot of them do.

^ I don’t really get what you two are saying? Batman is like the VP of the Justice League and he’s the only one without super human powers. All of the league respects him even though he has no power, there must a reason.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ I don’t really get what you two are saying? Batman is like the VP of the Justice League and he’s the only one without super human powers. All of the league respects him even though he has no power, there must a reason. [/quote]
His status among his fellow Leaguers has nothing to do with my statement.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ I don’t really get what you two are saying? Batman is like the VP of the Justice League and he’s the only one without super human powers. All of the league respects him even though he has no power, there must a reason. [/quote]
His status among his fellow Leaguers has nothing to do with my statement.[/quote]

Aren’t you agreeing eith Brick that he’s given too much credit?

Yes many times the argument boils down to stupidity, it’s like arguing whether full house or sub 8% is best for gains…

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ I don’t really get what you two are saying? Batman is like the VP of the Justice League and he’s the only one without super human powers. All of the league respects him even though he has no power, there must a reason. [/quote]
His status among his fellow Leaguers has nothing to do with my statement.[/quote]

Aren’t you agreeing eith Brick that he’s given too much credit?

Yes many times the argument boils down to stupidity, it’s like arguing whether full house or sub 8% is best for gains…[/quote]
LOL yeah I am. How people view him and his status within his universe are two different talking points.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ I don’t really get what you two are saying? Batman is like the VP of the Justice League and he’s the only one without super human powers. All of the league respects him even though he has no power, there must a reason. [/quote]
His status among his fellow Leaguers has nothing to do with my statement.[/quote]

Aren’t you agreeing eith Brick that he’s given too much credit?

Yes many times the argument boils down to stupidity, it’s like arguing whether full house or sub 8% is best for gains…[/quote]
LOL yeah I am. How people view him and his status within his universe are two different talking points.[/quote]

Ya I suppose so.

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]

dude no way! hawkeye, the flash, aquaman, and a bunch of other people would definatly die first. And batman proves himself time and time again, he gets the shit beat outta him, and gets his back broken yet he still manages to pull out a brutal win each time.

[quote]stokes1989 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]

dude no way! hawkeye, the flash, aquaman, and a bunch of other people would definatly die first. And batman proves himself time and time again, he gets the shit beat outta him, and gets his back broken yet he still manages to pull out a brutal win each time.[/quote]
How do those three die before him barring mere chance?

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.[/quote]

Ya that’d be an epic fight, I wanna see batman verse spawn though, like a fight in the pits of hell…that’d be crazy

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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.[/quote]

Ya that’d be an epic fight, I wanna see batman verse spawn though, like a fight in the pits of hell…that’d be crazy[/quote]
What are we giving Batman so he isn’t instakilled? Are we implying that he’s already dead and therefore can’t die? What then? What new tools does he have to fight with?

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]

dude no way! hawkeye, the flash, aquaman, and a bunch of other people would definatly die first. And batman proves himself time and time again, he gets the shit beat outta him, and gets his back broken yet he still manages to pull out a brutal win each time.[/quote]
How do those three die before him barring mere chance?[/quote]

well if we are talking a thnderdome type situation, there wouldnt be a big body of water, so aquaman’s powers would do him no good, all it’d take to beat flash is a good clothsline and I may give you that hawkeye could hold his own for a little bit, but it a battle royale setting batman is waaaay more prepared for fighting multiple enemies at once.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.[/quote]

Ya that’d be an epic fight, I wanna see batman verse spawn though, like a fight in the pits of hell…that’d be crazy[/quote]
What are we giving Batman so he isn’t instakilled? Are we implying that he’s already dead and therefore can’t die? What then? What new tools does he have to fight with?[/quote]

I’m talking just a rumble in the jungle lmao…just them 2 dookin it out.

[quote]stokes1989 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]

dude no way! hawkeye, the flash, aquaman, and a bunch of other people would definatly die first. And batman proves himself time and time again, he gets the shit beat outta him, and gets his back broken yet he still manages to pull out a brutal win each time.[/quote]

Those are some good probable deaths in the first round, along with Batman, especially if Batty had to fight Iron Man. Let me tell you how this would go, Ironman flies to the top of the dome, Batman grabs the grappling gun to get up there. Just as he gets it off his belt, a flurry of missiles blows his Bat ass to kingdom come. Game over.

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[quote]stokes1989 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I think Batman is given way to much credit. He is somewhat of a pop culture phenomenon, equivalent to Chuck Norris, but as far as competing with the best of the best superhero’s, he just couldn’t. Maybe if he had time to plan for each opponent or lie in wait, but if Marvell and DC suddenly get thrown into a Thunderdome type situation fighting to the death, Batman is one of the first to go.[/quote]

dude no way! hawkeye, the flash, aquaman, and a bunch of other people would definatly die first. And batman proves himself time and time again, he gets the shit beat outta him, and gets his back broken yet he still manages to pull out a brutal win each time.[/quote]
How do those three die before him barring mere chance?[/quote]

well if we are talking a thnderdome type situation, there wouldnt be a big body of water, so aquaman’s powers would do him no good, all it’d take to beat flash is a good clothsline and I may give you that hawkeye could hold his own for a little bit, but it a battle royale setting batman is waaaay more prepared for fighting multiple enemies at once.[/quote]
Aquaman is still very powerful without water, so a lack of water doesn’t justify your hypothesis. Flash has variable durability and near light speed reaction time as well as intangibility so a clothesline isn’t exactly a nail in the coffin. If Batman had no prior knowledge, he’s no more prepared than anyone else.

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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.[/quote]

Ya that’d be an epic fight, I wanna see batman verse spawn though, like a fight in the pits of hell…that’d be crazy[/quote]

Batman to my knowledge has never been able to beat Etrigan so there’s no way he stands a chance against spawn.

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

[quote]stokes1989 wrote:

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Honestly id be more interested in a Taskmaster vs. Batman fight, since there a bit more similar in skill set than Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.[/quote]

Ya that’d be an epic fight, I wanna see batman verse spawn though, like a fight in the pits of hell…that’d be crazy[/quote]

Batman to my knowledge has never been able to beat Etrigan so there’s no way he stands a chance against spawn.[/quote]

Now that is not something I’m going to argue with. Because there is no way in hell that batman could win that fight. but it still would be awesome to watch