[quote]Professor X wrote:
But, you don’t see the difference?
Before we go any further, are people actually making the claim that a negative statement about race that is directed at a group of people who have been historically degraded carries the exact same weight in society as a statement about race directed at those who never faced something like that on anywhere near the same scale?
I don’t even see Obama’s statement as negative. You and Sloth basically justified his statement even though Sloth blamed “culture” instead of “race”.
that means, if you all are agreeing with Obama but simply using different words, why is ANYONE upset about it?
One idiot in this thread even made fun of “ethical” names and no one took offense or claimed they should stop.
I keep bringing up that statement from before and none of these people so “moved” by Obama’s pastor even make a comment or call that poster out for it.
You all sound like a bunch of crying hypocrites.[/quote]
See?! You are getting all pissy and defensive and why? Because we are talking about race? We can’t discuss it with out accusations, name calling, and intimations on intentions?
My points are this, white people and black people are different. This isn’t a good or bad thing, it’s just a thing. The first difference, is that they are different colors. So what? We can’t notice? We aren’t allowed to say hey, you’re black and I am white? Actually, being Hispanic, I am more brown, but people are typically different shades of brown really.
Now, breaking down the point. People grow up in communities, the communities they grow up in will influence behaviors and likes and dislikes. In America, because of segregations and discriminations in the past. Black people and white people have grown up in different mini-communities.
With in these communities different ways of interacting with the world were developed. As we continue to merge and assimilate we share these differences amongst each other. That is all fine and a good thing, but bottom line is there will be differences…Are we not allowed to notice? We can’t say anything with out being labeled racists?
Bottom line goes back to a severe over-sensitivity to race. I think that is the biggest problem, every time somebody says something that could even mildly be construed as offensive in a racial way, all hell breaks loose and it’s a big deal. People stand up and get mad and make speeches and the news media gets a ginormaous hard-on for weeks.
It’s getting to the point where people are afraid to say anything because it could be construed on racist. That just leads to dishonesty.
In it my opinion that this over-sensitivity that is perpetuating racial tension amongst people who should have been past it. You’re always going to have ignorant assholes who are racists; that will never change. But over all I think most people are over it and do not thick that way.
But the over sensitivity is causing this problem “how come they can and we can’t”. And that is what is happening with this whole Obama statement. I don’t like Obama, but this has absolutely nothing to do with why.
People are different and races are different and there is nothing wrong with noticing that. We can be different and live together in peace. But if accusations of racism continue to fly from either side, then tension will continue.
Can’t we just get along?
