Barack: 'Typical White People'

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
"How long must we all marinate in the angry resentment of black people?

As an authentic post-racial American, I will not patronize blacks by pretending Obama’s pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is anything other than a raving racist loon. If a white pastor had said what Rev. Wright said – not about black people, but literally, the exact same things – I think we’d notice that he’s crazier than Ward Churchill and David Duke’s love child. (Indeed, both Churchill and the Rev. Wright referred to the attacks of 9/11 as the chickens coming “home to roost.”)

Imagine a white pastor saying: “Racism is the American way. Racism is how this country was founded, and how this country is still run. … We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority. And believe it more than we believe in God.”

  --- Ann Coulter (a true American hero and patriot)

http://www.anncoulter.com/ [/quote]

That is his speech.

Pastor Wright (pastor, christian, human being)

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
So the typical white is racist…

I believe you should add a timeframe there. As in, “the typical white born before WWII” is racist.[/quote]

You really have no idea what you are talking about. These “typical white born before WW2” are precisely the ones who also played a pivotal role that put an end to segregation once and for all.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:

If you think really hard it’s pretty easy to connect the dots on this one. Obama is attempting to pull a very well planned ruse on the American voter.

And…it has been busted!
[/quote]

Perhaps, it will turn out that you are right. His veneer has been cracked ever so slightly and throughout the coming months we will get a better look at what is on the inside.

Until then, I’m not convinced he is a “racist pig.” I’m not really into the politics of personal destruction. From either side. It grows very tiresome.

I believe that both McCain and Obama are decent human beings and a credit to our country. There are significant policy differences though. That will determine my vote in the end.

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
The really sad part is that there are a significant number of youths who strive to emulate the parasitic lifestyle those lyrics glorify.

Yes. But what ‘youths’ are we talking about here? The song uses imagery of a predatory animal attacking prey (white meat) out on the African veldt as though the author was just acting out of some natural predator-prey relationship. In this case, the song is specifically glorifying black-on-white crime, and the rapper is popular and well-known. You can find his albums in any store. [/quote]

I understood the imagery. I find it contemptuous.

American youths. Black, white, hispanic, asian etc.

I don’t listen to Hip Hop much but I find certain manifestations of it to be dispicable and a poison to our American culture.

On the other hand, some of it is quite entertaining, spriritual, redeeming, inspiring etc.

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Look, I’m not ready to crucify the guy for this statement… but still…

I hope this brings some people into the light about the BS political correctness standard we hold our politicians too.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

The way most people dress is based on CULTURE and their peers.

.[/quote]

Now you seem to understand. Different cultures have different values. Some cultures value crime and violence.

As you just recognized, dress is a function of culture, thereby it can give cues as to likely values and behavior.

Seems simple enough.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:

So, they’re oblvious of who is around them? And strangers of certain dress and look don’t arouse extra caution with them? Can you honestly sit here and tell me that?

I was raised on martial arts and boxing. It runs in the family. I don’t walk around afraid of too much of anything and I am aware of my surroundings most of the time. I am the type of person who looks for the seat nearest the wall so I can keep an eye on EVERYONE. Their style of dress is irrelevant.

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I do the same thing. Drives my wife crazy. I would bet a lot of guys do this. Walk into a club or bar and your foolish not to take stock of who’s who.

However, whether you are aware of it or not you are probably assigning “danger values” to everyone you see. For most people those “values” have to be derived initially off of visual cues like dress, hygeine, appearance. Later mannerisms and behavior becomes the overriding determination.

I’m not saying I make lasting judgements based off of clothing etc. I’ve known plenty of people who looked like dirtballs but were actually pretty decent people. I’ve also known very clean-cut well dressed assholes.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
The word “stereotype” exists for a reason.[/quote]

I like JVC or Harman Kardon as my favorite stereotype

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[quote]new2training wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:

So, they’re oblvious of who is around them? And strangers of certain dress and look don’t arouse extra caution with them? Can you honestly sit here and tell me that?

I was raised on martial arts and boxing. It runs in the family. I don’t walk around afraid of too much of anything and I am aware of my surroundings most of the time. I am the type of person who looks for the seat nearest the wall so I can keep an eye on EVERYONE. Their style of dress is irrelevant.

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I do the same thing. Drives my wife crazy. I would bet a lot of guys do this. Walk into a club or bar and your foolish not to take stock of who’s who.

However, whether you are aware of it or not you are probably assigning “danger values” to everyone you see. For most people those “values” have to be derived initially off of visual cues like dress, hygeine, appearance. Later mannerisms and behavior becomes the overriding determination.

I’m not saying I make lasting judgements based off of clothing etc. I’ve known plenty of people who looked like dirtballs but were actually pretty decent people. I’ve also known very clean-cut well dressed assholes.

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Exactly. I’m not talking about lasting judgement calls either. Like you said, it’s a passing judgement, that can easily pass within a minute. Like if you, or he, makes conversation. Like I said, my father and uncles are very rough looking individuals. Yet, all but one were decent folk.

Yet, even I will still keep extra attention on someone sporting their same look, when I go to use an ATM. So, I guarantee a black or white woman would keep someone that looked like my father in their view. And I wouldn’t blame them if their hand creeped closer to their purse, where their taser/mace/gun might be. If not, I would seriously question their awareness of their own safety.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
new2training wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
“But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away, and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/21/2008-03-21_barack_obama_tries_to_explain_that_good_.html

Apparently, white culture has taught us to fear black men. I never knew…

This is just one more number to add to my “Obama is racist equation”

His wife says “this is the first time that I’ve ever been proud of my country”.

His Pastor rattles off a chain of racist statements, thrown in with many anti-American comments…from the pulpit.

Now Obama-rama himself says “the typical white person”.

1+1+1=3

The moronic white people who actually intend to vote for this racist pig better think twice.

Indeed 1+1+1= 3 but 3 is not a high enough score to call him a racist pig on my scorecard.

He attended a Church for 20 FREAKING YEARS where the Pastor spouted racist lies from the pulpit and he did NOTHING about it.

Did he:

  1. Publicly correct the Pastor?

No

  1. Did he leave the Church?

No

  1. Did he speak out against the Pastors beliefs BEFORE he was a candidate for President?

No

Therefore, one has to assume that he at least agrees in part with what that lying racist bastard shouted from the pulpit.

Keep in mind that if it were any republican candidate that he would have already pulled out of the race by now.

Just think back to the Trent Lot tar and feathering. And what did he say? He said at a party for retiring Strom Thurmond that he (Thurmond) would have made a good President.

The left SCREAMED RACIST and Lott had to step down from his position as Majority leader.

Keep in mind it was a harmless comment at an OLD MANS BIRTHDAY PARTY!

Yes…I’m fucking sick of the double standard!

Back to Obama-rama…

It was very telling that his wife stated “this is the first time I’ve been proud of my country” in reference to Obama’s candidacy.

Now why do you suppose she said such a thing?

Did she say it because she loves all white people and that she is proud of her country?

NO.

And finally Obama’s own “the typical white person” comment if said by McCain he would have to drop out of the race.

Picture it.

McCain: “If you take the typical black person…”

If you think really hard it’s pretty easy to connect the dots on this one. Obama is attempting to pull a very well planned ruse on the American voter.

And…it has been busted!
[/quote]

Except that this pastor did not do anything to qualify as a lying racist bastard which is easily verifiable by listening to his speeches that were not shortened and taken out of context.

The most “racist” thing I could find was that the government supplied drugs to black men (true, Air America and COINTELPRO) and uses three strike laws to keep them in jail forever ( at least a defendable position).

And a link for you, regarding his “racism”:

How you deal with bearing false witness against your neighbor is between you and your god.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
You guys are idiots[/quote]

I was looking for a better way to say it but I’m not sure there is one.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You guys are idiots

I was looking for a better way to say it but I’m not sure there is one.[/quote]

Yeah…and they wonder why you become frustrated…I try to stay out these issues…but its frustrating the insensitivity that people excuse as understanding race or culture. Plus,you can’t discuss race relations without someone other than your own race. Some of you need to re-read my long post a couple pages back.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Things are bad even when the racists are “offended.” It gives them even more fuel.[/quote]

"Discrimination has become so openly accepted that – in a speech meant to tamp down his association with a black racist – Obama felt perfectly comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as the white racist counterpart to his black racist “old uncle,” Rev. Wright.

First of all, Wright is not Obama’s uncle. The only reason we indulge crazy uncles is that everyone understands that people don’t choose their relatives the way they choose, for example, their pastors and mentors. No one quarrels with the idea that you can’t be expected to publicly denounce your blood relatives.

But Wright is not a relative of Obama’s at all. Yet Obama cravenly compared Wright’s racist invective to his actual grandmother, who “once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

If calling out a racist like Obama’s pastor is irritating, imagine Obama’s poor old granny — sacrificed to her grandson’s political ambitions. She fed him, clothed him, sent him to private school…and he drives in the knife into her back and twists. Gee, what a loyal grandson.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Things are bad even when the racists are “offended.” It gives them even more fuel.

"Discrimination has become so openly accepted that – in a speech meant to tamp down his association with a black racist – Obama felt perfectly comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as the white racist counterpart to his black racist “old uncle,” Rev. Wright.

First of all, Wright is not Obama’s uncle. The only reason we indulge crazy uncles is that everyone understands that people don’t choose their relatives the way they choose, for example, their pastors and mentors. No one quarrels with the idea that you can’t be expected to publicly denounce your blood relatives.

But Wright is not a relative of Obama’s at all. Yet Obama cravenly compared Wright’s racist invective to his actual grandmother, who “once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

If calling out a racist like Obama’s pastor is irritating, imagine Obama’s poor old granny — sacrificed to her grandson’s political ambitions. She fed him, clothed him, sent him to private school…and he drives in the knife into her back and twists. Gee, what a loyal grandson.
[/quote]

It is what it is…the truth. Shame on Rev. Wright…shame on Granny Obama. Plus,we only know what the media feeds us anyways. I know from my own experiences, white pastors who could easily be the exact counterpart to Rev.Wright. I’m sure you know some,too. But of course…it doesn’t matter,because they’re not associated with someone running for president. sigh

And I understand the actual point Obama was trying to make with his speech…do you???..but of course the ONLY focus is his comment of “typical white person” when he was refering to HIS grandmother. Edit Define political “correctness” for me,I need a reminder.

Fear really is a motherfucker…it rules this country in all aspects.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
orion wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
new2training wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
“But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away, and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/21/2008-03-21_barack_obama_tries_to_explain_that_good_.html

Apparently, white culture has taught us to fear black men. I never knew…

This is just one more number to add to my “Obama is racist equation”

His wife says “this is the first time that I’ve ever been proud of my country”.

His Pastor rattles off a chain of racist statements, thrown in with many anti-American comments…from the pulpit.

Now Obama-rama himself says “the typical white person”.

1+1+1=3

The moronic white people who actually intend to vote for this racist pig better think twice.

Indeed 1+1+1= 3 but 3 is not a high enough score to call him a racist pig on my scorecard.

He attended a Church for 20 FREAKING YEARS where the Pastor spouted racist lies from the pulpit and he did NOTHING about it.

Did he:

  1. Publicly correct the Pastor?

No

  1. Did he leave the Church?

No

  1. Did he speak out against the Pastors beliefs BEFORE he was a candidate for President?

No

Therefore, one has to assume that he at least agrees in part with what that lying racist bastard shouted from the pulpit.

Keep in mind that if it were any republican candidate that he would have already pulled out of the race by now.

Just think back to the Trent Lot tar and feathering. And what did he say? He said at a party for retiring Strom Thurmond that he (Thurmond) would have made a good President.

The left SCREAMED RACIST and Lott had to step down from his position as Majority leader.

Keep in mind it was a harmless comment at an OLD MANS BIRTHDAY PARTY!

Yes…I’m fucking sick of the double standard!

Back to Obama-rama…

It was very telling that his wife stated “this is the first time I’ve been proud of my country” in reference to Obama’s candidacy.

Now why do you suppose she said such a thing?

Did she say it because she loves all white people and that she is proud of her country?

NO.

And finally Obama’s own “the typical white person” comment if said by McCain he would have to drop out of the race.

Picture it.

McCain: “If you take the typical black person…”

If you think really hard it’s pretty easy to connect the dots on this one. Obama is attempting to pull a very well planned ruse on the American voter.

And…it has been busted!

Except that this pastor did not do anything to qualify as a lying racist bastard which is easily verifiable by listening to his speeches that were not shortened and taken out of context.

The American government gave AIDS to the black population?

And that we (Americans) are no better than El Quida?

Keep posting, and show us all how stupid you are.

[/quote]

Post proof or shut up.

And the whole truth, not the Fox News 30 second loop…

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
orion wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
new2training wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
“But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away, and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/21/2008-03-21_barack_obama_tries_to_explain_that_good_.html

Apparently, white culture has taught us to fear black men. I never knew…

This is just one more number to add to my “Obama is racist equation”

His wife says “this is the first time that I’ve ever been proud of my country”.

His Pastor rattles off a chain of racist statements, thrown in with many anti-American comments…from the pulpit.

Now Obama-rama himself says “the typical white person”.

1+1+1=3

The moronic white people who actually intend to vote for this racist pig better think twice.

Indeed 1+1+1= 3 but 3 is not a high enough score to call him a racist pig on my scorecard.

He attended a Church for 20 FREAKING YEARS where the Pastor spouted racist lies from the pulpit and he did NOTHING about it.

Did he:

  1. Publicly correct the Pastor?

No

  1. Did he leave the Church?

No

  1. Did he speak out against the Pastors beliefs BEFORE he was a candidate for President?

No

Therefore, one has to assume that he at least agrees in part with what that lying racist bastard shouted from the pulpit.

Keep in mind that if it were any republican candidate that he would have already pulled out of the race by now.

Just think back to the Trent Lot tar and feathering. And what did he say? He said at a party for retiring Strom Thurmond that he (Thurmond) would have made a good President.

The left SCREAMED RACIST and Lott had to step down from his position as Majority leader.

Keep in mind it was a harmless comment at an OLD MANS BIRTHDAY PARTY!

Yes…I’m fucking sick of the double standard!

Back to Obama-rama…

It was very telling that his wife stated “this is the first time I’ve been proud of my country” in reference to Obama’s candidacy.

Now why do you suppose she said such a thing?

Did she say it because she loves all white people and that she is proud of her country?

NO.

And finally Obama’s own “the typical white person” comment if said by McCain he would have to drop out of the race.

Picture it.

McCain: “If you take the typical black person…”

If you think really hard it’s pretty easy to connect the dots on this one. Obama is attempting to pull a very well planned ruse on the American voter.

And…it has been busted!

Except that this pastor did not do anything to qualify as a lying racist bastard which is easily verifiable by listening to his speeches that were not shortened and taken out of context.

The American government gave AIDS to the black population?

And that we (Americans) are no better than El Quida?

Keep posting, and show us all how stupid you are.

[/quote]

And even if he did say that, by being wrong 2 times out of ten he beats you by a healthy margin.

However, he is the one suggesting to look into your own soul first to search for the splinter in your own eye, which is the kind of humility you completely lack.

But then, he is a Christian and you´re a fucking heathen.

Hallelujah!

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orion,you’re a trip.