“Hello! My name is Barack Obama and I’d like your vote. You should vote for me because I’m black and Oprah says so. Wait…that didn’t come out right…I am not black because Oprah says so. Let’s try again.”
“Hello! I’m Barack Obama and Oprah is black and…Damn! That didn’t come out right either! Let’s try again!”
“Hello! I’m Barack Obama. You have to vote for me if you’re liberal because I’m an unqualified black man being propped up by a too-rich talk show hostess…Nah, too honest and direct…”
"Hello! I’m Barack and here is a list of my accomplishments that qualify me to be President…
I’m surprised how there is hardly any mention of Barack on the boards here yet Ron Paul gets huge amounts of attention. So, to be fair and balanced, I’m asking T-Nationers to name some of the remarkable achievements of this man sufficient to cause us to vote for him.
I’ll start: I know that calling him ‘articulate’ is an insult to him and to all black people. Joe Biden is an obvious racist for calling him that. And ‘clean’ is bad too! Those things imply that its unusual to find a clean, articulate black person. Racism!!!
Perhaps, ‘eloquent’ will do. Is he an eloquent speaker? Is that enough to garner a vote? Hmmmmm…
Uh… you do realize blacks are generally voting Hilary in the polls right?
Obama and Hilary have both basically avoided the racial/gender issue. It’s basically the only thing they’ve done well.
Everyone has political backers who are famous. Oprah just happens to be one of Obama’s.
As for what he’s done to deserve a vote? He’s a fresh face, for one. He’s proven he can cross the party lines and work with the GOP better than Clinton can. He has a semi-decent health care plan, and is more likely to get it through than Hilary. He’s not a moronic speaker and sounds much more genuine than Hilary.
If I could vote in the Democratic primary, my vote would be for Obama. Kucinich can’t win, and Hilary is a thousand times worse.
I still can’t figure out why this guy deserves a vote. He has never run a city (Guliani) and has never run a state (Huckabee or Romney). At least Hillary has been nearly a co-President and is wicked enough to get things done in DC.
Hillary is also backed by Rothschild money.
It seems people want to vote for him because he’s a good speaker. Well, so was Hitler. (And no I’m not saying Obama is Hitler.)
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I still can’t figure out why this guy deserves a vote. He has never run a city (Guliani) and has never run a state (Huckabee or Romney). At least Hillary has been nearly a co-President and is wicked enough to get things done in DC.
Hillary is also backed by Rothschild money.
It seems people want to vote for him because he’s a good speaker. Well, so was Hitler. (And no I’m not saying Obama is Hitler.)
And have you noticed that the press seems to giving him a free ride? And…we all know why.[/quote]
Was that a racial slur? jk
I know you disagree, but I still think Obama has a much better chance at winnning the general election than Hillary, so therefore, go Hillary!
I know you disagree, but I still think Obama has a much better chance at winnning the general election than Hillary, so therefore, go Hillary![/quote]
In a way I think that either one will result in a gain and loss of equal amounts because of race or gender. The ones who will not vote black might vote female, and the ones who won’t vote female, might vote black.
But I do not trust Hillary, and would much prefer Obama.
By the way, wouldn’t Hillary’s qualifications for being president also qualify Lewinsky?
But I do not want the Bush, Clinton, Bush thing to turn into a quarter century or more.
I should say that statistics of past races shows that former Governors do better in the polls then former Congressmen. (Or the more feminine term Congressbeeatches.)
I think that there is enough racism alive to keep Obama out, I’m sorry to say. While I think he’s the least qualified candidate to run in either party, I don’t want him to lose because of racism, but those are the facts.
He has to win some of the red states, tell me which ones he’d win if he were to be the nominee?
Mississippi perhaps?
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The South leans red anyway, but primarily because of their conservative social stance, not because of race. Keep in mind that the % of blacks in Southern states (with the notable exception of Texas) is significantly higher than you’ll find in most other states. For example, Mississippi is 37% black, while the US itself is 12% black (US Census Bureau, 2005).
I don’t think being black will be Obama’s issue in the South, it will be his politics.
I would be happy to vote for the candidate who comes nearest my philosophical ideals (which appears to be Ron Paul). The problem is if they then don’t have the will or ability to implement those ideals (Bush).
I think that there is enough racism alive to keep Obama out, I’m sorry to say. While I think he’s the least qualified candidate to run in either party, I don’t want him to lose because of racism, but those are the facts.
He has to win some of the red states, tell me which ones he’d win if he were to be the nominee?
Mississippi perhaps?
The South leans red anyway, but primarily because of their conservative social stance, not because of race. Keep in mind that the % of blacks in Southern states (with the notable exception of Texas) is significantly higher than you’ll find in most other states. For example, Mississippi is 37% black, while the US itself is 12% black (US Census Bureau, 2005).
I don’t think being black will be Obama’s issue in the South, it will be his politics.
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Exactly, the only state where it would possibly even be an issue is Florida. All of those other southern states have and will vote Republican regardless.
I know you disagree, but I still think Obama has a much better chance at winnning the general election than Hillary, so therefore, go Hillary!
In a way I think that either one will result in a gain and loss of equal amounts because of race or gender. The ones who will not vote black might vote female, and the ones who won’t vote female, might vote black.
But I do not trust Hillary, and would much prefer Obama.
By the way, wouldn’t Hillary’s qualifications for being president also qualify Lewinsky?
But I do not want the Bush, Clinton, Bush thing to turn into a quarter century or more.
I should say that statistics of past races shows that former Governors do better in the polls then former Congressmen. (Or the more feminine term Congressbeeatches.)[/quote]
I don’t think that race or gender will actually be an issue. Hillary will choke in the general election and people will begin to realize she has very little knowledge on the important topics of today, and her true character will come out. This is already happening and could easily cost her the democratic nomination.
Obama, on the other hand, has a real knack for telling people what they want to hear. He will gain many votes from both democrats and republicans just for his ability to paint a rosy picture for socialism. He is the one to be feared.