Bar Keeps Floating Away From Me at the Start of Pull

[quote]emskee wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m gonna have to try these paused deads everyone keeps talking about. I am definitely weak off the floor. [/quote]

Yes, exactly.

I’m not trying to be a smartass here (comes naturally, don’t you know) but what better way to train your pull from the floor than to do pulls from the floor? And pulls from the floor should come from a dead (as in "dead"lift) stop.

Wanna be a crazy man? Take the weight you were going to do today for reps, and do that many singles. Try for an E(M/2)O(M/2) to an EMOM rhythm maybe.

(I may have just made up the “E(M/2)O(M/2)” thing, but it means “every 30 seconds on the 30 seconds”)

So if it was 405 for 3 sets of 5, do 15 singles. Set up, pull, reset, stand up, take a few steps back, think “why am I doing this? emskee might not even exist, he could be some 11 year old kid somewhere…”, repeat 14 more times, rest less than you think you should, maybe change the thought between singles to something like “fuck emskee!!!”.

Or something, I don’t know.

Anyway, I do this sometimes…

Except I don’t do the “emskee might not exist thing…”, though I do do the “fuck emskee” thing.

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Lol. Well said!

[quote]emskee wrote:

Except I don’t do the “emskee might not exist thing…”

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And why not… for all you know you’re a figment of a figment of someone’s imagination that’s been granted consciousness through unbeknownst forces of the universe… you never know.

Oh crap! Maybe I don’t exist either. My hand, it’s dis aper ng. . wat’ hppng a h h! !

Okay, but seriously, you gave me the same deadlift advice and my DL has cleaned up a bunch and my hips and back are a lot healthier for it too. Thanks!

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]emskee wrote:

Except I don’t do the “emskee might not exist thing…”

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And why not… for all you know you’re a figment of a figment of someone’s imagination that’s been granted consciousness through unbeknownst forces of the universe… you never know.

Oh crap! Maybe I don’t exist either. My hand, it’s dis aper ng. . wat’ hppng a h h! !

Okay, but seriously, you gave me the same deadlift advice and my DL has cleaned up a bunch and my hips and back are a lot healthier for it too. Thanks![/quote]

Yeah, you and I are characters in the mind of the singular solipsist. Who is he? And what happens to us when he changes his mind or when he dies?

I woke up this morning on my right side and my right hand had no feeling, like mine was gone and this was the hand of a stranger. I know what you mean.

And thanks for saying “thanks.” I appreciate that.

[quote]barbedwired wrote:
Lol. Well said![/quote]

(Long post ahead. I am SO full of coffee…)

Thanks. I know that I am being old fashioned here, Vince Anello and old school Westside, but training deads with singles just makes sense to me and I say this because it has been demonstrated to work for me and others.

In my (learned?) opinion, I think it a sin to do ugly reps which WILL happen in sets of multiple reps in the deadlift. Some parts of you learn that it is okay to get all hunchy and hitchy when it sure as hell ain’t okay.

And since most people’s second deadlift rep looks better than their first, the rep with the approach and setup is the one which is wrong. This is contrary to the contest necessity that you properly approach and set up.

As such I cite ALPHA’s post above as supporting reference.

Shout from the lost commuter, “Hey buddy, how do you get to Carnegie Hall?” Pedestrian’s response, “Practice, practice, practice.”

Before the trees blocked the forest, Louie Simmons distilled Prilepin into rep ranges and tempos for all three lifts. He advocated pulling like your life depended on it. F=ma and all that, right?

This all has been forgotten post obscuration by all the new stuff, the trees at the edge of the Westside Forest.

These “older” techniques produced some pretty strong folk and can actually be understood and self regulated and done without 5 other guys in your face. That is, you (and I) can do it too.

It looked like this…

Deadlift
Week one: 70% 15 sets of 1 one min rest/sets
Week two: 75% 12 sets of 1 one min rest/sets
Week three: 80% 8-10 sets of 1 - 1.5 min rest/sets
Week four: 85% 4-6 sets of 1 1.5 - 2 min rest/sets
Week five: 90% 1-3 singles of 1 - 2 min rest/set
Week six: de load or rest
Week seven: new max at contest or gym or recycle with 70%

(Except I don’t de load, I don’t try a new max, I just add 10 - 15 pounds to my [usually made up] max and restart at week 1. I play with the rep ranges and rest periods. Further, I’ll usually start at something lower than 70% because I know I’m lying to myself about my max.)

I have found that by pulling like a psycho on all my reps, from a dead stop, with all the ceremony of the set up, my reptilian mind comes to learn only this.

So, when I go to pull something stupid heavy, I don’t know that it is any different than the 70% I yanked on a few weeks ago.

I have often been told how fast I am from the floor. In fact, I usually don’t come to my senses (become conscious of what is going on) until I am at mid thigh. 600 could just as well be 335. Also, I’ve been told that when I fail, it looks like a still photo from a good rep video: I just come to a stop somewhere with good form. (Usually)

Am I an expert? Probably not. But neither am I a fuck up. Being an old goat, I hope that you younger goats may watch and learn from how I DIDN’T fall from the rocks.

i am going to try this plan out with my clients and myself. I think it is going to lead to good things.

[quote]Alpha wrote:
i am going to try this plan out with my clients and myself. I think it is going to lead to good things.
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I’m thinking of trying it out too. I’ve recently moved to pulling Sumo, and think doing this to really nail form down, and just doing some rep work with SLDL’s could do me some good.

While I’m not using the exact program layed out here. I am currently applying the idea of singles EMOM /in place of block pulls on my Cube365 cycle. As a conventional dead lifter who is weak off the floor this just makes sense to me.

Cube had me slated to do 2 sets of 3 block pulls with .82 percent. Instead I did 6 singles EMOM with that weight. And plan to do the same each week for this whole 9 week cycle.