Two I left off my original list: Iron Maiden and JEWEL!
When I hear Jewel my stomach turns. Even like in a store or an elevator or something. It just makes me want to hurl.
Testy1…that’s the guy!
I saw Iron Maiden live years ago and I was fucking pissed that Nico didn’t do a drum solo.
See, now it’s going to be suspected that anyone who says they hate Iron Maiden is only saying so to bust my balls … so Mr. Frost I believe you hate Jewel … but I do NOT believe you hate Iron Maiden … I mean, they’re Iron Maiden … they have their own plane and their pilot sings their songs!!
To the people who were talking about the Bonham triplets. Bonham started practising bass drum triplets after hearing Carmine Appice (with Vanilla Fudge) play them. Or so he thought. Carmine was actually playing the triplet between the bass drum and floor tom.
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
To the people who were talking about the Bonham triplets. Bonham started practising bass drum triplets after hearing Carmine Appice (with Vanilla Fudge) play them. Or so he thought. Carmine was actually playing the triplet between the bass drum and floor tom.[/quote]
Funny you should bring up Carmine Appice. He is playing drums for Micheal Schenker next weekend in the San Francisco area at Pepperbellys in Fairfield. A long time friends band is warming up and he is geeked about meeting him. Very under appreciated drummer.
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
To the people who were talking about the Bonham triplets. Bonham started practising bass drum triplets after hearing Carmine Appice (with Vanilla Fudge) play them. Or so he thought. Carmine was actually playing the triplet between the bass drum and floor tom.[/quote]
Check out the live versions of Communication Breakdown on The BBC Sessions and of course The Wanton Song off of Physical Graffiti if you want to hear why it’s commonly referred to as the Bonham triplet.
Carmine Appice was a heavy, heavy influence on Bonham. He played with two huge bass drums and the sound he got inspired Bonham to have Ludwig make the 26x14 bass drum for him. That’s the other thing: Bonham never recorded or played live with anything other than a single bass drum/pedal. Apparently he tried adding one to his kit, but the rest of his band always took it off because he would absolutely apeshit with it. He did more with one pedal than most drummers could do with two. The fastest right foot ever.
I just interviewed this band yesterday called This Will Destroy You. They play instrumental ambient rock and they fucking blow. In the article I compared listening to them to hearing Tool in super slow motion while underwater and nodding off on heroin.
But the band themselves were actually really cool. I asked them shit like what kind of drugs they’re into, what kinds of groupies they attract and if they bang 'em, what musicians/bands throats they’d fucking slit if they had the chance (had to ask them that one), and shit like that. They were good sports about it, which is more than I can say for Nas. I interviewed him about two years ago and he gave me a bunch of attitude and just gave me straight one sentence answers after that. Totally uptight cad.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
That’s the other thing: Bonham never recorded or played live with anything other than a single bass drum/pedal. Apparently he tried adding one to his kit, but the rest of his band always took it off because he would absolutely apeshit with it.[/quote]
Hmmm, I know I have seen photos with Bonham playing with a double bass. Not sure how much he actually used it while playing, or what tour it was, but I’m almost positive I’ve seen it.
Edit - Scouring Led Zeppelin dot com trying to find photos to back up my claim
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
That’s the other thing: Bonham never recorded or played live with anything other than a single bass drum/pedal. Apparently he tried adding one to his kit, but the rest of his band always took it off because he would absolutely apeshit with it.[/quote]
Hmmm, I know I have seen photos with Bonham playing with a double bass. Not sure how much he actually used it while playing, or what tour it was, but I’m almost positive I’ve seen it.
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He never played with one. Maybe he jumped up on stage and played on someone else’s kit just to show them how to REALLY play the drums (he did that a lot when he was drunk, including at a Sex Pistols show; they had trashed Zeppelin in the press so the band went to see who this band was and when they played for 15 minutes and then stopped for a 30 min intermission, he went “Bonzo” and jumped on stage yelling about Zeppelin played for 3 hours straight and tried to get behind the kit to keep the crowd entertained during the intermission; they had to drag him out)
He did use a double bass kit a couple of times. The story about the triplets is directly from Carmine Appice.
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
He did use a double bass kit a couple of times. The story about the triplets is directly from Carmine Appice.[/quote]
You might be right about him using one a couple times, but I know for a fact that he was never recorded using one, so essentially no one has ever heard him use one outside of the band.
Phil Collins sucks on so many levels it’s ridiculous.
He ruined Zeppelin’s appearance at Live Aid.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Phil Collins sucks on so many levels it’s ridiculous.
He ruined Zeppelin’s appearance at Live Aid.
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So true. Further proof for the Neal Peart-is-God people out there that technical proficiency isn’t everything in drumming. Collins was/is a great technical drummer (not on Peart’s level, but really good nonetheless) and he sounded like absolute shit at LiveAID 85 because he just couldn’t groove with the same power and feel that Bonham could. But believe me, Bonham could definitely have sounded great, and different than he did with Zeppelin, if he had drummed for Genesis. Check out Hurdy Gurdy Man by Donovan. That’s Bonham on drums.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
So true. Further proof for the Neal Peart-is-God people out there that technical proficiency isn’t everything in drumming. [/quote]
It’s not everything, but some people make Peart out to be like some sort of robotic metronome, insisting that he “lacks groove” (whatever the fuck that means). He plays in an insanely technical band, which may partially explain why he leans towards the technical side of drumming. You can’t take anything away from Keith Moon as a drummer for being “non-technical”, same goes for NP. Different musicians, different styles…
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Phil Collins sucks on so many levels it’s ridiculous.
He ruined Zeppelin’s appearance at Live Aid.
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So true. Further proof for the Neal Peart-is-God people out there that technical proficiency isn’t everything in drumming. Collins was/is a great technical drummer (not on Peart’s level, but really good nonetheless) and he sounded like absolute shit at LiveAID 85 because he just couldn’t groove with the same power and feel that Bonham could.[/quote]
-OR- it could have been lack of preparation or all around apathy.
Dude, I think people ‘get’ that you think Neil Peart is ‘over rated’, but trying to make the claim that ‘a technical drummer’ couldn’t groove like Bonham, especially Peart by inference, is pretty outlandish. The fact that you previously put the White Stripes chick on a pedestal is pretty funny too. She’s AWESOME for the White Stripes…
Zep are virtual music gods to me, but let’s be honest, Page/Plant played, sang, and performed like SHIT at Live Aid and it wasn’t Phil Collin’s fault (and I’m FAR from a Phil Collins fan). I think I was like, 12 or 13 during Live Aid and already having every album/vid/performance commercially available at the time (and able to play much of their catalog on guitar) thinking “this SUCKS”.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
… I think I was like, 12 or 13 during Live Aid and already having every album/vid/performance commercially available at the time (and able to play much of their catalog on guitar) thinking “this SUCKS”.[/quote]
C’mon, Steely… it was Plant’s bad hair, wasn’t it?
lol
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
… I think I was like, 12 or 13 during Live Aid and already having every album/vid/performance commercially available at the time (and able to play much of their catalog on guitar) thinking “this SUCKS”.[/quote]
C’mon, Steely… it was Plant’s bad hair, wasn’t it?
lol[/quote]
Nope-- I think I had the SAME haircut! THAT was AWESOME!
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
… I think I was like, 12 or 13 during Live Aid and already having every album/vid/performance commercially available at the time (and able to play much of their catalog on guitar) thinking “this SUCKS”.[/quote]
C’mon, Steely… it was Plant’s bad hair, wasn’t it?
lol[/quote]
Nope-- I think I had the SAME haircut! THAT was AWESOME![/quote]
LOL!
Well, I had a mullet in the very early 80’s myself.
I hate almost anything thats popular. My favorite bands are: The Shins, Pinback, Belle and Sebastian, and Band of Horses.
The list of what I hate would be too long…
[quote]Brian14 wrote:
I hate almost anything thats popular. My favorite bands are: The Shins, Pinback, Belle and Sebastian, and Band of Horses.
The list of what I hate would be too long…[/quote]
So , for example, the minute The Shins win a Grammy and become a household name, you’ll drop 'em like a sack of shit?
Great value system you have there.