If anything, I see them getting more extreme.
Our thoughts on the bill of rights from each side is so far apart - it will only get worse.
One side thinks the constitution is a relic and should be abolished.
That will never be moderated or reconciled.
People who want to strip my rights for the greater good can eat shit and die.
Thanks for the explanation. I heard of that guy before and I think I watched an interview with him years ago.
I’m still just getting to know him. He did a great job of anticipating our current troubles.
My political education was very Marxist-oriented (interclass conflict). So I appreciate analysts like Turchin who remind me of the importance of elite competition in society (intraclass conflict).
I think that, with the two-party system, there is no alternative.
Both sides have to cater to the loonies on the fringe to win elections. Causing the other side to freak and think everyone on the other side is a lunatic.
In Europe most countries have a multipartisan system, and loonies have their own loony party.
Otherwise it would be the same shit. I don’t think the USA has more loonies than Europe, it’s just that the two-party system makes it seem like it.
From my experience they are becoming less fringe and growing in number. The older I get the more I encounter them and HATE them.
And I mean HATE - I don’t use that term loosely. When you are actively pushing ideas that want to tear away my freedoms for the “greater good”, you are now an enemy to me in every sense of the word.
Well I sure hope you’re an exception.
I can’t really say I know many people with extreme views in real life. Mostly on the internet, and I hope it stays like that.
Do you think it’s reasonable to hate people who ruin the lives and trajectories of others? I do. I don’t think it’s extreme.
I’m asking seriously.
So do I, why?
Oh, I see it now, I think you might’ve misunderstood me.
I said I hope Bauber is an exception because he encountered many people with extreme views, which is not my experience. Not because he hates them.
Sadly, I don’t think I am.
I live in a part of the US that has the fewest number of the extreme on the side I am talking about and I still encounter them regularly.
I see.
I see there has been much mention about being a good centrist (not from you specifically, and I don’t remember you saying that).
So that means I should come to some sort of center with people who are in favor of policies and have attitudes that have destroyed and are destroying our social institutions and people’s lives and safety and altering their trajectories.
So the suggestion of being a centrist means people like me, normal people (yes, I use that word) should yield to them. I should yield to people who like to make the US a ridiculous pig sty, pretty much.
I’m not sure I follow you here. Could you be more specific? What kind of policies and attitudes has the center enacted that are destroying social institutions?
I would think most normal people fall somewhere in the centre of the political spectrum, but neither main party is a centre party, since they do need to cater to the fringes.
Not the center per se, although the center goes right along with things that harm people, but doesn’t come up with the ideas in the first place. They yield.
As I’ve said, I’ve read and heard here and elsewhere that all will be well if we all just arbitrate and come to a center.
For example, if one doesn’t want hypersexualization of children in schools and the other side does, what is the premise of the center?
I can go on with a few topics in which there there is no center.
Besides, for over a hundred years, leftists have always sought to destroy the existing order even when that order was working fine, even greatly. So this means everyone else should be yielding to an ever-moving center.
Policies that ruined the institutions of news and entertainment media, the schools, towns/cities, law, and the nuclear-family system. Even to the point that those who want the nuclear-family system intact are mocked!
Furthermore the left likes to make moral basket cases out of people by screwing with their heads and language, to the point in which all standards are degraded and there is no frame of reference for what is normal.
“What’s normal?”
“There is no normal.”
“Who are you to judge?”
“Who am I to judge?”
Even proud “conservatives” yield to this.
I think the answer is obvious: Drag queen story hour limited to children 6&up; no condoms handed out to children until their age is double-digits.
See. That’s a perfectly fitting example. Yielding and yielding and yielding. Conservatives always on the defensive.
Gotcha.
Thank you for detailed answer.
Just one example in the past 70 years of a policy that will harm people in and out of the institution of education.
And this is recent. @darnell_becker
The push to change normalcy is out of control, especially considering how far we’ve come.
I mean, we will never fully erase prejudice, but look at at how homosexuals were treated in our grandparents’ time. No one was openly declaring themselves as gay.
Look at how they were treated in our parents’ time. Maybe not great, but certainly better, no?
How about 20 years ago? Yes homophobia will always exist but it’s not like they were being persecuted.
Nowadays, do we still that extra push to normalize “alternative” lifestyles?
This?
Is this what’s gonna make our society more tolerant? I think it will cause a change in the opposite direction.
The other day I catched a movie on tv where Peter Pan was black, and so was his sister Alice (the one from Wonderland).
I’m sure that’s totally gonna solve racism.
I almost though they’d make her asian, despite being Peter’s biological sister. Why not, at this point. Make Peter Pan gay too while were at it.
That shit freaks me the fuck out, who the fuck even came up with that? How do even schools allow that?
Wouldn’t it be funny if they started picking up ilegals at the border and put them reading stories to chilren in school? In their native language? Well maybe not funny, but certainly hilarious.
Notice I didn’t say which border, so…it could be read in English.