Balkanization/Civil War II/American Decline

@BrickHead @twojarslave

Hello Brick and Jarhead, if you don’t mind, I have an essay, errr I mean questions for you both.

Do you believe the nuclear family, with a strong masculine presence is the most efficient way of ensuring proper development of a healthy and confident child?

Or is a single mother with masculine qualities just as efficient?

What if you have a more “masculine” mother and more “feminine father” ?

What qualities does a man bring to a family that are unique from what a woman should bring to a family?

One last question, the whole masculine and feminine thing, is there backed up evidence that supports the idea of men and women steering towards a respective direction. For example, men tend to demonstrate more leadership qualities.

I look forward to your response. Yes I like hearing what you have to say lol, it’s interesting getting a perspective from people older than me.

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@BrickHead On the other note I was talking with a buddy from class yesterday who had a more positive opinion on kids, he’s 39 with two kids.

It was pretty much along the lines of what @Andrewgen_Receptors said. He said it changes who you are as a person, but in a good way because you think about what you can provide for them.

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Yes

There is a fuckload of data that shows the opposite. Mothers cannot effectively fulfill a masculine role.

Then your child will be gay. Sarcasm, kind of. Soft men create weak children, and hard women create mildly psychopathic children.

Nature. Women bring nurture.

Yes. Look at global leaders, CEOs, every single successfull relationship. All are lead by men (or >90% at least).

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This is 100% true.

My priorities in life have completely changed once I held my daughter for the first time. My children will always come first until the day I die.

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Yes.

There is variation in all of this and there are intact single-parent homes. However it’s clear that this is not the ideal.

I also don’t judge this by masculine versus feminine qualities but what is actually done in the home.

Typically there are better life outcomes for for children in single-father households versus single-mother households.

See above. You don’t have to be General Patton to be a great dad. I know several men with more feminine qualities, what is considered an expressive personality type (eg, an artist) who are great dads.

Protection, discipline, wisdom, foresight, intuition, and dare I say, healthy fear (gasp). Yeah, yeah, I know that women do this too, but informed people know that this is one the cases in which “it’s not the same” applies.

Fatherlessness is linked with every social pathology and I’ve recommended more than enough content on this. Want my recommendations again?

Generally speaking, yes. And because we are generally less altruistic we can make decisions that involve some, again, dare I say, meanness.

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@tlgains I strongly recommend you read The Garbage Generation: On the Need for Patriarchy by Daniel Amneus.

All your questions are addressed in it.

When a father is ridden from a home, one can expect disaster.

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@tlgains there is a Fatherhood thread for which this discussion would be more fitting.

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No need for trepidation. Anybody who pays the slightest bit of attention to history realizes we are marching into war, one way or another. This country will be drenched in blood within a decade or less. And the crowds will cheer for it in the beginning.

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The book isn’t based off his life though right?

No.

I also recommend the following which deal with these subjects, with the first one being the most exhaustive:

The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power https://a.co/d/44fv6Z3

A Gentleman’s Guide to Manners, Sex, and Ruling the World: How to Survive as a Man in the Age of Misandry– and Do So with Grace https://a.co/d/2IaHbCi

No More Mr. Nice Guy https://a.co/d/eC5e3sl

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What do you think of your questions?

Do you think acting like a woman will get you a woman or something important?

What do you think of alternatives to the nuclear family unit?

Here is another infographic.

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I predict 50 or more years.

I predict within 25. Things are happening too quickly and the division is mounting quicker and quicker.

How do you feel about this? Me, I obviously scared about that happening relatively soon but in another sense I’m alright with it.

Yes. Absolutely.

Not remotely close. Forget about traits for a minute, you’re talking about two people doing a task vs one person.

This is probably less than ideal, but better than a single parent.

Brick’s covered a lot of this already. My stepson’s mother was always more attuned to his moment-to-moment feelings of emotional and physical well-being. I was always more attuned to his long-term development into a man. For some examples…

She would discourage things like risky play, whereas I’d let him horse around without much concern for things like scrapes and bruises.

I would be perfectly happy to stand my ground and physically keep him in his room if I told him he was grounded, she would typically cave on her attempts at imposing consequences.

I always considered an upset child to be the desired outcome of correcting bad behavior, but upsetting her child upset her too. She was and is a loving and caring mother but she, like many women, lack the same capacity most men have to do things that upset their children so they can grow into better adults.

By the time boys start growing into man-sized and man-strength bodies, the situation can change even more. Teenage boys are much, much better off if they know they can’t push dad around, whether it’s physically, mentally or emotionally. Teenagers need frequent behavioral checks, and you can’t check the behavior if you aren’t strong enough. A single mom can be a pillar of strength in her own way, but if her son has 100 lbs on her and his own ideas of what he can and can’t do, there isn’t a thing mom can do to stop her son in that moment.

There is, but it only spans all of recorded history, so you should probably hear those modern feminists out.

You can look around you and observe what you see, for starters. If you stop by your local brick factory you will probably notice the lack of women stacking hot bricks off of the production line. Has your plumbing ever been installed or fixed by a woman?

Would you drop off your toddler at a daycare staffed exclusively by men, even if you could find one like that? If you were gravely injured and required care and attention, would you rather have a beautiful female nurse take care of you or a bearded, muscle-bound, heavily-tattooed hulk of a male nurse who hangs out with bikers on the weekend?

For something more academic, there are now decades of data linking all kinds of bad outcomes to single parent households and lack of fatherhood. Exceptions exist and lots of single moms raise children who grow up into great adults. It’s just that so many do not. The child of a single mother is dramatically more likely to be a deeply troubled adult and not contribute positively to society.

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I’m curious. Is this something being discussed in schools and amongst zoomers?

@BrickHead

Yes, I do believe the nuclear family with a strong masculine presence is the most efficient way of ensuring proper development of a healthy and confident child.

I think a single mother with masculine qualities is probably the worst outcome tbh. I think the kid is more prone to being an emotional train wreck. They also aren’t given a good example of positive masculine traits to mimic. One trait I think is VERY valuable when it comes to masculinity is leadership.

For the “Masculine” woman and “feminine” man in a relationship, I think it could be healthy.

I suppose I’m referring more to gender roles. For example, the lady leading the relationship as well as being a breadwinner.

Anyway, in theory the kids will mimic the parents being that way. Idk if that’s a bad thing or good thing. It’s certainly not something I want, but I’ve seen positive examples on YouTube.

Hmm what qualities does a man bring to a family. I believe the biggest thing a man can bring is leadership. The man is supposed to stick to his principles and demonstrate them through his actions. His spouse, and children will follow him, they are gently being lead. You would expect a religious father to uphold his religious principles and/or culture in a household.

I never throughly researched the difference between men and women beyond physical attributes. From what I have observed and read, men tend to be logical and women tend to be emotional. They are both valuable traits nonetheless.

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Brick, I don’t know what most people talk about. I only hang around people similar to me. These people I talk to are able to have meaningful conversations.

I’d go as far to say most zoomers are retarded shallow narcissistic babies. It’s just my opinion, doesn’t mean it’s true.

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Very vapid, self absorbed generation. Image centric social media plays a huge role.

My generation had the likes of facebook, myspace etc.

Subsequent generations have instagram, snapchat, tiktok

Newer generation of social networking apps are image centric, hyper individualistic platforms.

It’s all about me me me.

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I’m scared for my children, but I’m setting them up well to have their best shot.

It’s all I can do.

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