Or you’ve been following Punisher’s log for too long!
Seriously, I’m pretty sure pressing 3/4 BW strict (are we talking the same thing here?) is considered “average Joe” strength in the OH press. I’m positive I’ve seen that written in at least one TNation article.
Although, unlike your 6:30 mile, some above average training time would get you there for sure.
I stopped following because I feel weak after reading a session haha!
See it’s weird because I feel like I got to a 115 @ 5x5 in a strict OHP in just a few weeks (when I started lifting) and I was 20lbs less than my friends at the time. But I’ve learned after unlocking my genetics I’m built to squat and press, but not really pull haha.
I’m trying to help my dad get to “average” or “healthy” in the basic lifts, so I’m trying to get him to a certain level where I can say “maintain this now”.
Here:
A 315 Bench Press and a 275 Row and a 405 Squat is just GOOD!?!?!? That’s just ridiculous lol.
fucking seriously?
no. there’s absolutely no reason to water this list down THAT much. My 130 lbs girlfriend, who had no previous weight training before this year, presses more than 100 lbs overhead. Most healthy adult males should be able to handle that, many with no previous training. What a joke. You’ve turned the list into ‘what most adults can probably do without any training history, or maybe a month or 2 in the gym’ lol.
Here’s how I viewed the list: I took it as, if I wasn’t a person who went to the gym, and I saw people lifting, what would they have to lift for me to say ‘that person is strong’. I know what a person who has a max 95 lbs ohp looks like. They look like they’ve never lifted weights before. So there’s no way that I, as an untrained athlete, would see that as strong.
To me, this should almost be ‘what lifts do you need to be able to do, approximately, to look like you lift’. And the original list fits that much better than yours. The 225 deadlift is especially depressing, btw. I have a friend who’s 6’2, 150 lbs, literally the skinniest dude I"ve ever met, and I got him to a 225 deadlift in about 3 months, and his appearance didn’t change. He maybe gained 5 lbs of bodyweight to do it.
That is probably a better way to frame this the question because some of these answers are depressing lol.
I figure if you have an average build and healthy male and are able to do the following (using 3x5 as an easy measure):
Back Squat - 315 @ 3x5
Deadlift - 405 @ 3x5
OH Press - 155 @ 3x5
Bench Press - 225 @ 3x5
Chin-Ups - 10
BB Row - 225 @ 3x8 *This one is debatable.
I think you’d look like you lift. Probably won’t be jacked as hell, but you’ll at least look like you spend some time in the gym I’d hope!
I am 14 years old, and deadlift 300 lbs. Take that as you will
This topic always is good for a laugh.
“How heavy would you say a heavy average sized rock is?”
“I’d say a good, heavy average sized rock is probably like 20lbs”
“No no, at that point, the rock becomes a stone, and is no longer average. I’d say a good heavy average sized rock is like 5lbs”
“Isn’t that small for a heavy rock?”
“Yes, but it’s quite average”
I have a data point.
Some guy was military pressing 80kg and an average joe was so impressed he came up to the guy to tell him what an impressive life that was.
“an impressive life”
This is the “Average Joe” thread. If you want “Impressive”, you need to GTFO!!!
What if you’re a Lilliputian?
I prefer to term “Halfling” or “sprite”. It’s more sensitive to my heritage.
It’s much easier to simply “identify” with whatever heritage suits your goals/hopes/wishes/hopes/fantasies/etcetera/etcetera/etcetera.
Insert random story: Doctor friend of mine gets randomly asked for “free” medical advice; a lady approached him once in a hospital setting and asked him what kind of doctor he was; his answer -“Average, Ma’am, average.”.
Oh no! Not again!
Using the criteria of what an average, non-training adult person probably couldn’t lift I think a 2-3-4 (225 bench, 315 sq, 405 dead) puts you into “strong for an average joe” territory, for the average gym goer it probably needs to be 3-4-5 to be “strong for a lifter”
Being in public gyms for probably a decade, I honestly barely see anyone hitting the “average joe” numbers so maybe even those are a bit high.
1, maybe 2.
For reference, here’s the annoying click-bait strength standard I keep seeing.
Well it seems like different people have different definitions, which makes it hard to agree on one answer since we’re all talking about something different.
Strong-average person and strong-average gym goer are two completely different things.
That being said, your untrained 130lbs gf did not do a strict OHP with 100lbs. That would put her in the proficient category: The lifter has been consistently training with a focus on strength, likely for 2+ years. Lifters in this category are stronger than most gym regulars. Or if she did, she’s literally 1 in a 100 000 and you can’t make arguments based on exceptions. 99% of untrained girls cannot do a single push up with good form.
I can’t help but feel this is a direct quote from one of those silly “strength standards” websites that are super popular right now.