I thought the movie was great. The scene where Jake Sully first links with his Avatar and breaks out of the center was awesome. I felt like I was running along with him. That sense of freedom that was conveyed was incredible.
The movie was terrific, even with its plot being a little cliched. The part that I thought I was absolutely ridiculous was that Sully’s girlfriend left him to die and then came right back to him when he tamed the giant red dragon. Talk about a gold digger…
I really hope they come out with a sequel. It ranks somewhere in my top 10 favorite movies of all time because of the special effects and the great story.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Yet your loopy ass still was in a theater for three hours and watched it. Not like you were forced by left-wing quacks to watch it…lol.
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Actually, my wife and daughter were sitting in the lobby after their movie (Princess Frog Gets Laid or something so I went out and chatted with them with about 20 minutes to go in the Avatar. That’s how thrilling this movie was. Anyway, my sons were watching Avatar so we couldn’t leave; let 'em watch the end. I did go back for what must have been the last 5 minutes.
John Kerry’s testimony before Congress comes to the big screen as a 3D cartoon…yippee!
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I think its funny how uncomfortable some Republicans get when genocide as a means to obtain someone else’s natutral resources is portraited in a negative light.
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If they won’t sell,trade or move. What other option is there?
This movie is racist besides being anti-technology and anti-reason:
"Although a few of the white characters such as Jake Sully are portrayed in a more redeeming light this is only because they totally reject their own civilization and join the other team in the fight. In other words: the only good whites are the ones who utterly turn their backs on their own destructive and evil culture. As reviewer Armond White put it, â??Avatar is the corniest movie ever made about the white manâ??s need to lose his identity and assuage racial, political, sexual and historical guilt.â??
Of course, back in the real world whites are among the most self-critical and least ethnocentric people on Earth, and have been so for a long time. Whites are also disproportionately represented in the environmental movement whereas many â??diverseâ?? Third World peoples couldnâ??t care less about the environment. But why let the truth get in the way of making a good anti-white movie? The fact that quite a few among the predominantly white audience cheered for this movie shows that anti-white hatred and stereotypes have become so widespread and accepted that most people cannot even see it, least of all whites themselves."
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Yet your loopy ass still was in a theater for three hours and watched it. Not like you were forced by left-wing quacks to watch it…lol.
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Actually, my wife and daughter were sitting in the lobby after their movie (Princess Frog Gets Laid or something so I went out and chatted with them with about 20 minutes to go in the Avatar. That’s how thrilling this movie was. Anyway, my sons were watching Avatar so we couldn’t leave; let 'em watch the end. I did go back for what must have been the last 5 minutes.
John Kerry’s testimony before Congress comes to the big screen as a 3D cartoon…yippee!
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I think its funny how uncomfortable some Republicans get when genocide as a means to obtain someone else’s natutral resources is portraited in a negative light.
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I think it’s funny whenever anyone twists ENTERTAINMENT into some political screening of America citizens. People that interject politics into everything can’t enjoy anything…I feel sorry for them. [/quote]
If Prof X can look for racism in every frickin’ aspect of American life, then why can’t I look for hidden meanings in (obvious) propaganda? The movie was racist as fuck too and pissed all over technology especially.
I don’t know about you, but I LIKE technology – cars, central heating/air, computers, television, tech in surgery, on and on. The savages can muck about in the jungle all they want.
Someday, perhaps movies denouncing WHAT MAKES LIFE POSSIBLE above savagery will get denounced, not praised.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Yet your loopy ass still was in a theater for three hours and watched it. Not like you were forced by left-wing quacks to watch it…lol.
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Actually, my wife and daughter were sitting in the lobby after their movie (Princess Frog Gets Laid or something so I went out and chatted with them with about 20 minutes to go in the Avatar. That’s how thrilling this movie was. Anyway, my sons were watching Avatar so we couldn’t leave; let 'em watch the end. I did go back for what must have been the last 5 minutes.
John Kerry’s testimony before Congress comes to the big screen as a 3D cartoon…yippee!
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I think its funny how uncomfortable some Republicans get when genocide as a means to obtain someone else’s natutral resources is portraited in a negative light.
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I think it’s funny whenever anyone twists ENTERTAINMENT into some political screening of America citizens. People that interject politics into everything can’t enjoy anything…I feel sorry for them. [/quote]
If Prof X can look for racism in every frickin’ aspect of American life, then why can’t I look for hidden meanings in (obvious) propaganda? The movie was racist as fuck too and pissed all over technology especially.
I don’t know about you, but I LIKE technology – cars, central heating/air, computers, television, tech in surgery, on and on. The savages can muck about in the jungle all they want.
Someday, perhaps movies denouncing WHAT MAKES LIFE POSSIBLE above savagery will get denounced, not praised.
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I think everyone is getting far too caught up in the politics of the movie. For godsake, it was meant for entertainment. Yes, I realize there were underlying meanings (and I loved them). Just because I rooted for natives in Avatar hardly means I am condemning white people (I am Scandinavian). Your comparing idealism to realism. Just because something makes a great movie and brings issues to light doesn’t mean it still can not be valued in terms of entertainment purposes only. To say that this movie was racist is one of the most ridiculous arguments yet. It is a partially animated movie…
I also don’t know why people seem to think the way they view the movie is always the right way. Most good movies in history are extremely controversial. If your thinking that controversy was not what Cameron was aiming for, your kidding yourself. Movies thrive on it. Everyone will interpret it different. And, the best part is, that is OKAY.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
StateChamp, Cameron said there are two planned sequels. They are already written and are in development. [/quote]
Awesome! And imagine how much cooler they’ll be in the future with more 3D and better special effects. Plus, there’ll be more character development so people will stop complaining about that.
John S., it isn’t OUR military. That is what I love the most about people knocking this movie saying it is left wing shit. First of all, I am a heavy republican on most issues. But the movie does NOT have the U.S. military in it. Some of them are military exes, yes. However, in the movie they are serving mercenary purposes. See the movie before you chalk it up to a piece of propaganda.
Lordeeeeee… did everyone miss the whole “mercenary” bit? The colonel and developers are NOT the US military, I thought that was pretty clear. This is essentially a hypothetical civilization with their own military (a military solely devoted to resource procurement), driven only by profit. Yes you can read that as the US but GODDAMN I hope you don’t. If you do then I’m going to go ahead and turn it around: you’re the america hater. Don’t associate modern US with resource-grabbing ignorance. We’re better than that.
I hated the movie. Most of it is only to make you hate these blue critters, so you can´t wait for the military to attack.
It´s like a walt disney movie. It´s annyoing.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
John S., it isn’t OUR military. That is what I love the most about people knocking this movie saying it is left wing shit. First of all, I am a heavy republican on most issues. But the movie does NOT have the U.S. military in it. Some of them are military exes, yes. However, in the movie they are serving mercenary purposes. See the movie before you chalk it up to a piece of propaganda. [/quote]
Sorry didn’t see you comment. But the rest of my post still stands.
Well…I don’t want to lose too much of myself in the political skat-play of the usual suspects here. But I will say if Avatar sparks that type of nonsense and is worthy of a PWI thread…it MUST be worth a watch.
Also,I always notice that whenever HH criticizes a movie…it’s only after “catching” 15-20mins of whatever movie it is.
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
Lordeeeeee… did everyone miss the whole “mercenary” bit? The colonel and developers are NOT the US military, I thought that was pretty clear. This is essentially a hypothetical civilization with their own military (a military solely devoted to resource procurement), driven only by profit. Yes you can read that as the US but GODDAMN I hope you don’t. If you do then I’m going to go ahead and turn it around: you’re the america hater. Don’t associate modern US with resource-grabbing ignorance. We’re better than that.[/quote]
I don’t want to turn this into a political debate, but anytime a nation is running out of resources they will expand to take more resources. The fact that we have this idea that survival is evil is really really dumb.
so I went out and chatted with them with about 20 minutes to go in the Avatar. That’s how thrilling this movie was. Anyway, my sons were watching Avatar so we couldn’t leave; let 'em watch the end. I did go back for what must have been the last 5 minutes.