At What Point Should I Listen to Pain?

FINALLY! FREAKING FINALLY! Good God some useful information. Oh my Lord.

Thanks. Thanks so much.

Yeah, gonna cut back on frequency now.

And a fictional character.

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No, they aren’t. There are clear limits to what humans can adapt to and overcome.

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Good God you’re entitled! This thread is full of a plethora of helpful information from experienced lifters who owe you nothing. You’re going to find the number of people willing to help you on this site dwindle really fast if you keep up the attitude.

I’m getting a very strong suspicion you don’t even lift. You’re just bored and like wasting people’s time on the internet.

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For anyone just catching up, here’s a summary so far:

ā€œI squat heavy every day and I feel pain from doing itā€
ā€œMaybe you should squat lessā€
ā€œBut the Bulgarian weightlifting team squatted every day and they won a bunch of medalsā€
ā€œYou’re not an Olympic level athlete on PEDs and you don’t make a living from squatting. Why risk injury?ā€
ā€œAh but this cartoon character said humans can adapt to anythingā€

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I skimmed the thread, but just so I’m not redundant, has anybody asked OP if he knows the difference between pain and injury? That’s not a condescending or a rhetorical question. It’s something that a lot of people can’t differentiate between.

Good question! I had a dirt bike racing buddy that would always ask the same thing as soon as I ate dirt ā€œare you hurt or are you injuredā€. Like clock work :joy:

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Can you elaborate? There’s certain kinds of discomfort that I know at this point that if left unchecked will lead to compensation patterns, dysfunction, and pain. But I’m wondering where you in particular are taking this…

Pain means different things to different people too. Some people think the soreness in there leg muscles is ā€˜pain’.

What I’ve struggled with the most is that I can actually injure myself and at the time of injury it’ll just feel like mild discomfort that’s hard to distinguish from just muscle soreness and burn because I guess of all the catecholamines and endorphins be pumped through my body.

Lifting is something I do to enhance other, more important parts of my life. So, at the first sign of structural pain I stop midset and move on to something that doesn’t stress the affected body part. Many times, it means I just go home. That slight twinge in my low back is easy to push through for a few more sets, but is a real problem later that day, week, month.

Getting in half a workout and resting a body part for a week is one helluva lot better than creating a problem that affects you in and out of the gym for weeks or months. I want my injuries to be from my recreation where I take large physical risks, not from my training in a gym.

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A little tangential, but have you ever gotten busted up on a ride, far from home or help?

I folded myself in half backwards once wrecking off of a big jump a mile or so from home. Once I was pretty sure my back wasn’t broken I had to drag my ass and broken bike out and home.

That was miserable! :joy:

Worst I’ve had personally was a separated shoulder, and coming-to with no idea where I was, and a taco’d front wheel. Had to use an app to find my way out cause I was NOT with it. It wasn’t too bad walking out- 4-5miles and 1500’ mostly all downhill. Mellow trail too. Honestly, im not good enough at MTB to REALLY injure myself easily. I hurt myself a lot, but im not riding fast enough on gnarly enough stuff or sending big drops and jumps. I am good at skiing though and have had numerous close calls that could have turned out really poorly along with some mellower injuries over the years (fractured leg, MCL, separated shoulders). When skiing in the backcountry though i tone it down A LOT because im also mitigating avalanche hazard, evacs are a much bigger deal and longer than in the summer, and putting SAR at risk is not something i want to do. So i mostly just get sendy at resorts where patrol can get to me in a couple minutes and its a 5 minute ride to the base in the bloodbucket.

I’ve assisted on some bad stuff mountain biking though. It almost all been at areas an hour or two from a hospital, but right by logging roads (we use to shuttle trails- no pedaling!): badly broken femur, double arm fractures, and a spinal injury where we had to strap the guy to a ladder and carry him out to the nearest logging road. Not pleasant at all.

We have slag dumps we use for motocross, BMX dirt jumping, and mtb tracks. Some of them are absolutely gnarly if unfamiliar.

2 recall nasty ones that happened on the same jump were a compound fracture of a femur where the guy was laying out a Big table top (early '80’s) and just never brought the bike back in underneath him. He came straight down about 20 ft. and just completely fragged that whole leg.

The other was a guy dive bombing into the gully/deep trench the jump was built from, but went off line and into a tree and fractured his skull. That was Very Very bad.

I’ve gotten banged up at our local ski resort a good bit snowboarding, but we don’t have backcountry. Just downhill ice rinks.

Ice Coast groomers are sketchy AF. I’m not into that life haha. God bless the folks that are though!

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Very accurate.

My first couple of years snowboarding was just falling down and getting banged up, and wrapping/packing limbs in ice.

After that though, weee. Loads of fun.

SkyzykS…

Putting all that into perspective, squats are safe, right? You don’t see an 80’s Bulgarian weightlifter having his leg bone shoot out of his skin.

I dislocated my spine doing speed squats, so…

Popped it right off down at the L4-L5.

HOWEVER- Lots of people do them, including me, safely, and benefit from them a good deal.

If I was you, I’d take some time to start doing more about pre-hab. Work on limbering up your ITB and quads, and see if that pain behind your patella goes away.

I popped my left hamstring like a cold rubber band on a set of squats. Took me 8 months before I could squat to depth again.

Also recently tore something in my abductor on a set of squats. Got some video of it I can link sometime when I have better access to youtube.

How do you do this? @FlatsFarmer have me some stuff a good while back that I found helpful, but the IT band is a stubborn dude when he gets cranky

The one thing I do the step across for a long second, pause for a short second, then lay into it deep for like 10-15 sec. Like a pnf type stretch.

The others are pretty pretzeled up, and I’ll have to do a quick video demo rather than try to describe. I’ll definitely get one up in my log shortly though.

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Tag me if you don’t mind. Thanks!

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