[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Where the fuck is my response to BG?
FUCK.
I said, as much as I love to hear Uncle AC’s stories (I do), I think you’re neglecting that his suggestion to HIRE SOMEONE (a stranger, right?!) to beat up this kid is fucking malicious, and goes beyond just teaching this kid a lesson.
I mean, that’s all we want, right? To teach-sumbitches-lessons. Not to hire a fucking Craigslist hit man and beat this kid up. I’m sure mom wouldn’t suspect the OP, right? Right?
Whiteflash,
I didn’t know that about real estate vs. employment. Interesting.[/quote]
I think I nibbled around the edges of that point b/c it’s socially sensitive. The way AC and I grew up, you do whatever you have to do to defend yourself and preserve your inherent rights to breath - by any means necessary. Sometimes, that involves using a third party for any number of reasons - you want an alibi, you can’t get to the person, you’re “incapable” (rare if you’re built for confrontation and battle). The mentality in a city where your life can be in danger for something stupid is a lot different if you’re living in the suburbs. AC grew in in Baltimore and B-more is no picnic. I experience the dichotomy of the two extremes myself almost daily. I live 30 minutes outside Philadelphia on 7 acres on the edge of a very small, blue collar, town. No real crime, only a few neighbors. Conversely, I am in Camden NJ almost daily at our social club which is situated in one of the most dangerous sections of town. A heroin drug set is to the rear of the building and just crossing the street to get a snack can end in misadventure.
So, I understand where AC is coming from, because I’m willing to do anything to assert and preserve my own personal sovereignty and that of my family and friends. That said, I do think I made a comment that I believed that getting your future step-son “knee capped” is a bit extreme and it is also a “crime” against the woman he loves.
TRUE STORY:
My mother divorced by brother’s father when I was a senior in high school (my natural father passed when I was 4). She started dating a guy that would eventually become her husband, and to this day, he and I are as close as any stepfather and stepson can be. In fact, he pretty much “saved” me from my earlier bad decisions and got me my start in the insurance business.
Anyway, when they were dating, I was living a very rough existence. My days consisted of lifting weights, playing basketball, chasing pussy, drinking, and looking for trouble at night with my crew. We found trouble, and when we couldn’t find it, we made it. Some people never have a real fist fight in their lives. I had at least one a week during those times. We fought all the time. For ANY reason - “What the fuck are you looking at?”
I was home drunk one night after a typical night out with my boys and I must have got up to take a piss in the middle of the night and pretty much didn’t know where I was…and of course my mom started fucking with me. We had a huge argument (my mom was a yeller, I hate screamers). Fast forward to the next day, her paramour decided he was going to speak to me about it. Mind you, this man is just dating my mom, I barely know him and he certain has no “standing” to intervene from my perspective. He enters my room the next day and forcefully announces to me that he wants to talk to me. I’m on the phone with one of my girlfriends. I tell him I’ll talk to him when I get off the phone. He hangs up the phone. I can’t remember the details but it quickly escalates to he and I locked together, with my mom desperately hanging on to my leg. I’ve got him controlled, but he won’t stop fighting me, so I just gave him a quick elbow - and broke his nose. Fight over. He makes some noise about “where is my knife” (which would not have gone well for him because I’ll see your knife and raise you a gun) but ultimately they left and I came home one day a few days later, and everything was gone. I was on my own. My mom “left” me LOL.
Years later we reconciled and as I said, we’re pretty tight and he got me my first real job - he hired me. Anyway, a few years after the fight, he tells me about this “connected” guy in Philadelphia he grew up with and was friends with. He wanted to do exactly what AC recommended - get me tuned up to teach me a lesson for my “cheap shot” (LOL @ cheap shot, the man hates to take a loss to this day). His friend told him we won’t do that - we know him LOL. Like I said, I was living a very rough existence. After his request was refused, he began to realize the life I was living. Not long after that we had a very uncomfortable conversation when he asked me if I’ve ever murdered someone and confided to my mom that he was sure that I had.
Anyway, I was ambivalent about posting this story earlier (it is similar) but now that this “tuning up” is still an issue, I decided it was relevant. Where am I going with this? Here - Now, I’m not sure I committed a crime that night. My best recollection is that it was a mutual fight and he lost. I didn’t “attack” him unprovoked and my response (quick elbow) was pretty tame. I didn’t intend to break his nose, but I did intend to quickly let him know he was in over his head and I wasn’t going to be assaulted by him. If for some reason I was charged with and convicted of a felony, it would have absolutely ruined my life.
From my very wayward ways, within a few years I was hired by him at an insurance company and enjoyed a very good living for the next 20 years. Although I cannot proclaim I have been an angel since that time, my career and earnings certainly inhibited me from doing anything overtly stupid. None of this happens for me if I get hit with a felony. If I’m hit with a felony, I more than likely stay on my path and live on the fringe…and maybe end up dead or in and out of jail.
The point is the kid is 18. He’s a fuck nut for sure. But the course of his life should not be altered such that he cannot completely redeem himself. A felony would severely compromise his ability to live a normal life. And knee capping him is too extreme and punishment with prejudice - and in my world, we save that for enemies and strangers, not potential family or relatives of the women we are intimate with. I’d rather just leave the mom and put it behind me than betray her and have her son harmed…but that’s just me.
