[quote]DeadKong wrote:
My stepmother I used to able to just about try and kill.[/quote]
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You not are language English in well?
OP, if you aren’t willing to resort to the good ol’way in order to deal with this kind of shit you don’t have other choice than pressing charges.
Rig his car with explosives. However, if it’s your car be sure to remember that you installed it so you don’t drive it and blow yourself up by mistake.
[quote]Lowe-1 wrote:
Moral of the story: don’t shoot him, don’t file charges. Kick his fucking ass and re-establish Alpha status. [/quote]
yeah, alpha status…that’s really important in this situation.
fuck that piece of shit, file charges. if he pushes his mother around and assaults you, what is he going to do to the random person that he’s got a beef with. sounds like a psychopath, better off distancing yourself from him.
sure it would feel good to cold cock him…but what if it doesn’t go your way, he will literally probably try to kill you while you’re trying to “teach him a lesson”. guess who wins that scenario? especially to the guys that advocate a ski mask. jesus fucking christ. also is the alternative you go to jail for assault. guess who’s life is fucked up then…and how is your fiance going to take it, looks like the engagment is over if you beat up her kid with a pipe while wearing a ski mask.
If this story is true, we’re not getting all of it. And, if true I 100% guarantee you that this is not his first outward act of aggression. You can’t [or shouldn’t] press charges for a variety of reasons. What does his mother say about all this? How long ago was the incident? Where’s his father, and how’s their relationship? If he gets hit with a felony he won’t be able to get a job outside of working at pizza hut or going into business for himself, but even then he’ll need capital 'cause no bank will give him a loan. I’m guessing you’re a small, non-confrontational dude otherwise you already would’ve done something. If that’s the case, tough shit. This kid needs a serious, life changing beating. Ruining his life through pressing charges is a bit too severe, but beating him within a couple of inches of his life while he’s fully aware that you’re the one administering the beating isn’t. There’s no guarantee that someone like that can be “reached”, but if they can it’s guaranteed that it’s by force.
Also, I’d be willing to bet that you and the mothers relationship has been different since the incident.
I still say cut his left thumb off.
Then make a pendant out of it and make him wear it on a necklace. Just the first knuckle, not the whole thumb.
Wow man that’s some tough shit. Like, I don’t even know.
I definitely wouldn’t call the cops but if you fuck him up, which it doesn’t sound like you can, what would that do to your relationship with the mom.
I dunno man. I know that any man that lays his hands on his mother is a fucking reject waste of air. My mother and every other mother who has lovingly raised their children are fucking precious. I’ve rocked people for mentioning my mother. My brother stepped to my mom once, he got two black eyes and he will never do it again.
And don’t even mention my girl. A grown man, and thats what this dick is, even so much as looks at her aggressively and it’s gonna get really ugly. I’ve helped raise her son since he was an infant and i love him like my own but god forbid he ever in his fucking life hit his mother, I’m going Ving Rhames on him.
Me? I probably would’ve shot him. Horrible to think about but it sounds like you were in real danger.
As this unfolds, in time, we may hear that the mother has had a change of heart. She may want to make excuses and blame herself. She then resorts to coddling him, and essentially letting him off the hook for his behavior. I hope that it does not evolve like this. This has been known to happen to other people countless times, teaching that these clowns can get away with anything. Gotta be held responsible for your actions. BTW, some ideas come to mind, such as paying some hillbillies to do what was done to Ned Beatty in “Deliverance.” You know, the love scene from the movie?
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Press charges. What happens when he goes to college and does that to his (hypothetical) ex girlfriend and her boyfriend? He will be kicked out of school and in jail and maybe worse. What if he does that to the wrong kid and gets killed in retaliation? Better he learns his lesson now. [/quote]
Thats what you call “Live by the sword, Die by the sword”.
Fair is fair. Not always pretty, but neither are many parts of life.
[quote]byukid wrote:
This is why I always carry a telescoping baton with me no matter what.[/quote]
So that you get it stuck up your ass by the assailant?
Oh, I forgot, that’s the only type of pre-marital sex you guys are allowed…
When are people gonna learn that weapons make you just as armed as a guitar makes you an instant rock star?
[quote]gregron wrote:
Kicking the kids ass obviously isn’t an option. OP got demolished by this kid, the kid also punked his own mom and the OP barely managed to scramble into the house and left his fiancÃ?© outside to fend for herself… He’s not kicking this kids ass anytime soon.
You better figure out what youre gonna do OP cause letting it slide isn’t an option. I’d definitely talk it over with your lady too and see what she thinks/says about how to handle it.
So what if his D2 scholie gets pulled. It’s not like he’s got a full ride to play QB at USC or Notre Dame. He isn’t going to the league and gonna put you and his mom on the gravy train so you don’t have to pretend it didn’t happen lol[/quote]
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BTW, we all do things when we’re frightened, the fight or flight syndrome got the better of him in a bad way and he left his fiance outside to defend herself…I wouldn’t do that but he was obviously scared. OP I suggest self defense classes and or Martial arts/boxing.
One thing I noticed when I started Martial arts years ago is that it helped me stay calmer in adreneline pumping situations and think clearer, which usually winds up with making better choices and dealing with the situation in a better way. Just a suggestion.
He breaks your nose,you break his spine.
I disagree with AC about the felony. YES, it does hurt his chances of getting a job, BUT he can have a manager/director of whatever the anger management or boys camp or whatever facility write a letter vouching for him. They count that, which means he has to fucking EARN it.
I know this because when I would lease apartments, we were told not to take in people with felonies, but one guy had really paid his dues, and a letter from some director where the guy had done community service carried enough weight to push the guy through and get him a place.
AC and others,
The point is that it’s DIFFICULT for him to get a future job and there’s NOTHING wrong with that. Make him be fucking HUMBLE. Break him like a wild animal. Nothing wrong with that shit.
And you advocate this guy HIRING someone (a stranger?) to beat up the kid? Isn’t that WORSE in the mother’s eyes than “ruining” this kids college sports career?
I’m not coming down on you, but I want to put this into perspective. Please explain your position. You make it sound like your option is more logical/ethical than what most have been advocating (pressing charges).
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I disagree with AC about the felony. YES, it does hurt his chances of getting a job, BUT he can have a manager/director of whatever the anger management or boys camp or whatever facility write a letter vouching for him. They count that, which means he has to fucking EARN it.
I know this because when I would lease apartments, we were told not to take in people with felonies, but one guy had really paid his dues, and a letter from some director where the guy had done community service carried enough weight to push the guy through and get him a place.
AC and others,
The point is that it’s DIFFICULT for him to get a future job and there’s NOTHING wrong with that. Make him be fucking HUMBLE. Break him like a wild animal. Nothing wrong with that shit.
And you advocate this guy HIRING someone (a stranger?) to beat up the kid? Isn’t that WORSE in the mother’s eyes than “ruining” this kids college sports career?
I’m not coming down on you, but I want to put this into perspective. Please explain your position. You make it sound like your option is more logical/ethical than what most have been advocating (pressing charges).[/quote]
I think we need to really reflect on ACs heartfelt, first hand experience with a felony. I know we all thirst for justice - that’s natural. We want the kid to be punished and punishment is certainly appropriate. Although we disagree on the degree of punishment and the means (no surprise there) we cannot just dismiss ACs insights. You, and some others, are ignoring the temporal aspect to the potential outcome. AC is correct. If you have a felony it’s a life long burden and barrier. Is that a fair punishment for an 18 year old? I’m not so sure. I tend to say no.
And I think a reasonable prosecutor would likely agree. Yeah, there are some hard asses out there that care about nothing but their stats, but many do have a sense of fairness, if not a need for expediency to get cases closed and the latter means pleading cases down. Far more cases are pleaded down that actually tried. Because a trial and conviction would rely upon the cooperation of the victim (OP), I still believe the case could certainly be appropriately steered.
Not everyone is built for confrontation, combat or actual retribution. Most people don’t even know someone who knows someone who they can hire and c’mon guys, this is his fiance’s child. We don’t hire someone to knee cap our fiance’s son although I certainly understand the base emotions behind such a desire.
Pragmatically speaking, there are only two options here. Do nothing and remain separate from the child - which will strain the relationship with the intended wife. Enforce the law and seek a fair punishment.
But AC is right. A felony conviction is not justice in this case but I certainly do not believe that a felony conviction is a likelihood - unless of course he already has a record for violence. First time offender, 18, in college, scholarship, a reticent victim, domestic, etc. - the State is looking for a resolution everyone can live with. I don’t see them running wild on his ass.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I disagree with AC about the felony. YES, it does hurt his chances of getting a job, BUT he can have a manager/director of whatever the anger management or boys camp or whatever facility write a letter vouching for him. They count that, which means he has to fucking EARN it.
I know this because when I would lease apartments, we were told not to take in people with felonies, but one guy had really paid his dues, and a letter from some director where the guy had done community service carried enough weight to push the guy through and get him a place.
AC and others,
The point is that it’s DIFFICULT for him to get a future job and there’s NOTHING wrong with that. Make him be fucking HUMBLE. Break him like a wild animal. Nothing wrong with that shit.
And you advocate this guy HIRING someone (a stranger?) to beat up the kid? Isn’t that WORSE in the mother’s eyes than “ruining” this kids college sports career?
I’m not coming down on you, but I want to put this into perspective. Please explain your position. You make it sound like your option is more logical/ethical than what most have been advocating (pressing charges).[/quote]
I worked in real estate for the better part of 4 years. Leasing to someone with a felony depends on a variety of things, but is much easier to swing than getting employed with a felony. Got a buddy who did close to 2 years and when he got out he finished his degree in business management and he can’t get anything for over $10 an hour as a fucking day laborer 'cause no one will touch him. That’s been close to 4 years now.
My best friend on the planet has 2 felonies and had to open his own business as a welder/fabricator 'cause no one would hire him to do even simple mig welding jobs. Getting this kid hit with a felony will alter his life in a really bad way. Maaybe he deserves it, maybe he doesn’t but it’s definitely not something to take lightly.
[quote]bwbski wrote:
only thing holding me back is it may f up the rest of his life…[/quote]
Firstly, it’s him doing this, not you. Secondly, you may be doing him a favour in the long term by showing him his limits. No one normally moves on to attacking his immediate family without having tested his limitations before. If he doesn’t learn this late - next time someone might die. Go for it.
Makkun
Squats and Milk or
PIIHB…oh wait this isn’t SAMA.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]bwbski wrote:
only thing holding me back is it may f up the rest of his life…[/quote]
ah shucks… He might have to learn something the hard way?
Fuck that. You can’t go around raging at people for no fucking reason. He needs to learn that.
Press charges, and take a boxing class or some shit. ;)[/quote]
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