[quote]bwbski wrote:
only thing holding me back is it may f up the rest of his life…[/quote]
Well, I do not believe it would fuck up the rest of his life. Expungement, pre-trial processes, etc. are all available. If there are consequences, HE caused them - not you by enforcing a sacred rule of society. We don’t go around assaulting people without just cause.
I think two things should determine your approach to this.
If you kick his ass there is always the chance of retaliation and he may not just retaliate against you. How would you feel if you put a beating on him and he showed up and took it out on your fiance? He has already shown he has no aversion to physical contact with women and is willing to initiate violence without warning.
He sounds like a pretty cowardly guy to me who is provoked by minor things. My thoughts are that he has gotten away with this before and this is not new behavior.
Lastly, the anger management recommendation is a joke. I went through anger management voluntarily several years back. The problem is most guys in a class like that are there because it was mandated by a judge and the recidivism rate is very high.
A single pass through something like that will probably not help unless he does it voluntarily and takes it seriously. The courses are typically based around written material which is read in class and talked about. If you are not engaged in the process and taking it seriously you’re not gonna get much.
The kid is on a pretty treacherous path right now. The likelihood he does this again to you or someone else is high, he injured you relatively badly, and got away with it. Believe it or not, that’s empowering for someone who acts like that.
You need to make sure a kid that age has consequences for something like this.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Fuck the police. If you cant beat his ass, hire someone who can - beat him so bad he can’t play football for a month. Make sure his nose is broken and that he needs stitches on his face. Knock a few teeth out while your at it.
That will teach him FAR better than the slap on the wrist he will get once he pleads this shit down with no prior record and get’s bullshit community service or weekends in a county jail hanging out and watching TV.
First offense second degree assault? He ain’t gonna do any time - no lesson will be learned by him but that you can beat the system.
Fuck him up, don’t take him to court.
If he is convicted of felony assault, he won’t ever get a good job. TRUST ME. Do you really want to ruin your step son’s life over a stupid fist fight? Nowadays even blue collar jobs are pulling background checks. It’s fucking ridiculous. We live in a system that even once you do your time, you are punished for the rest of your life. Don’t do that to your step son.[/quote]
AC, we need to go get on Maury Povich to see if we’re brothers or related LOL. “When it comes to the Bodyguard and the Angry Chicken…yuuuuuuuuu ARE related!” You wrote what I wanted to say, but sensed was not a realistic option for the average guy that just got beat up by his step son. If it were an option, he wouldn’t be here asking for advice about pressing charges.
Given that I do not believe it’s an option, I’m divided about your conclusion. I think that by him working WITH the system, that they can Sheppard this thing away from a felony.
Just tell the fucking kid that if he EVER so much as looks at you or your fiance wrong or if he doesn’t show the utmost respect at all times (this is assuming that you aren’t a complete pussy; I’ll cut you slack for getting worked since it sounds like the first punch came out of nowhere and probably rang your bell pretty good there) and worship the ground you walk on that CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!!
I’m gonna have to vote down the ski mask ass-whooping suggestion. It would be satisfying but it could lead to some pretty fucked up scenarios like you accidentally killing or paralyzing him, especially if you use a weapon (sounds like you would need one to take this guy down on your own).
In the moment of the assault–that was the time to fuck him up, and you really should have at least tried (maybe you did) in light of the fact that he was pushing around his own mother and sucker punching you. I’d say now that the immediate rage has gone cold, legal action is smarter.
The other issue people are mostly missing is that this is not his son and he intends to marry the mother. What are the mother’s thoughts on this? That entire dynamic is probably weighing on the OP. Heck, I can see the mother calling off a wedding at the threat of this kid getting into any legal trouble and/or possibly losing his scholarship. There are additional dynamics at play here for sure.
Here’s what you do: you find his girlfriend and have your fiance give her a new diaphragm. Except that the diaphragm is really RAPEAXE!!! repackaged in a box from Planned Parenthood. Just tell her not to worry about the size or shape of the thing and that your fiance uses it all the time. Perhaps your fiance could insert one into her vagina as well and then pull it out on cue to “solidify” the legitimacy of the product.
Blow up your kid like this…
[quote]gregron wrote:
Kicking the kids ass obviously isn’t an option. OP got demolished by this kid, the kid also punked his own mom and the OP barely managed to scramble into the house and left his fiancÃ?© outside to fend for herself…
hahahaha, I can’t stop picturing him shoulder bumping her to the ground and jumping over her to slow the kid down…
File Charges or he will do this shit again.
Cut his left thumb off.
My 18 year old was informed when he was younger that if he ever acts in an aggresive manner to his mother that at that precise moment, he will go from being my son to being my opponent. No acceptions. We can work out anything but not that…ever. It helps I got ten pounds of oldman strong on him lol.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
My 18 year old was informed when he was younger that if he ever acts in an aggresive manner to his mother that at that precise moment, he will go from being my son to being my opponent. No acceptions. We can work out anything but not that…ever. It helps I got ten pounds of oldman strong on him lol.
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Never underestimate the old man strenf!
We waited all this time for it and now we get to use it, baby!!
Four words:
Black mask. Black gloves.
My stepmother I used to able to just about try and kill.
You are going to have to beat the shit out of him. That is how “people” like him learn.
My mother finally decided to leave my sperm donor after the abuse turned on me starting at age 4. Not an easy task for a woman in the 1970’s, married to a cop in Texas.
He continued to pursue us, using resources at work so we kept moving. Mom sued and that did nothing. He eventually (who says the FBI isn’t useful every now and then?) lost his job. All any of that did was piss him off more, and he continued to track us down.
I don’t know what it took but my mom eventually came home with a Rem 870, and the next time he showed up, she gave him something to think about. Clean shoot (she didn’t kill him, but “he’s going to live the rest of his life knowing that a 98lb woman shot him”) mom does no time. Never had a problem with him after that.
Fast forward to mid 90’s. I’m on leave from SOI and visiting family near Dallas. Uncle takes me out to dinner, and wouldn’t you fucking know it, we run into the shit bag. Walk up, ask if he knows who I am. He says yes and I spend the next 10 minutes breaking his face.
Sorry…rambling…and a little bit proud of evening the score. As if that is even ever possible.
Moral of the story: don’t shoot him, don’t file charges. Kick his fucking ass and re-establish Alpha status.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
The other issue people are mostly missing is that this is not his son and he intends to marry the mother. What are the mother’s thoughts on this? That entire dynamic is probably weighing on the OP. Heck, I can see the mother calling off a wedding at the threat of this kid getting into any legal trouble and/or possibly losing his scholarship. There are additional dynamics at play here for sure. [/quote]
This right here. It’s really up to the mother, let her make the decision on what to do.
What all you guys are failing to realize is that in this day and age, a FELONY assault charge will LITERALLY prevent this kid from EVER getting a good job. TRUST ME. The ONLY reason I am successful is because I HAD to go into business for myself because no one would hire me. For a felony from 1992. I was an electrician and I was unable to obtain the necessary state licenses and was PART of the reason I left the industry. When I started doing mortgages there was NO regulation, but in 2008 I was forced to do loans in other people’s name because I was unable to get the necessary licenses. I have since partnered with a Federally Chartered Bank, which effectively “side-steps” the licensing requirement, but it took me a LONG time and a lot of hassle and networking and embarrassment professionally to get a BANK to hire someone convicted of ROBBERY!
I was turned down by a MOVING COMPANY because of my back ground - apparently a felony renders one unqualified to put a box in a truck… Having a felony on your record is a BIG FUCKING DEAL. It’s a MAJOR pain in the ass.
It’s very easy to get on the high horse and say, “well he’s 18, so he’s an adult and should just face the consequences”. I don’t think a broken nose and a few stitches warrants destroying someone’s future employment prospects forever. It would be one thing if I, at age 37 did what this kid did, but that’s NOT the case. He’s still in college and has a chance to get a LIFE for himself. ONE mis-step of bad judgment shouldn’t cost him the rest of his life - not at his age. I was 18 when I was charged with a felony and it has really altered the course of my life. It STILL alters the course of my life.
There are OBVIOUSLY some issues that haven’t been disclosed. I would see those issues ADDRESSED and TREATED before pressing charges. BG mentioned the possibility of “steering” the charges. From MY experience, the only person with the ability to “steer charges” is the District Attorney, and most of them WANT to throw the book at people and get high conviction rates because it looks good for their stats. It has very little to do with JUSTICE.
Also, I am not advocating that he have no consequence. I would be ALL FOR kicking the shit out of him. Break his nose, knock out a few teeth. Give him a beating that he wont forget. There are people who do that professionally and know the difference between breaking a nose vs. fracturing a skull. Hire someone. It would only cost about $500 or so. That way you are protected and have an alibi but he still get’s the message.
Those are my thoughts, I’m sure most of you will disagree. I’m sure there are some people who think I should still be in prison for my crime. But from the perspective of having gone through the system, I can unapologetically say: it is fundamentally flawed. Justice will NOT be served. His LIFE and future prospects will most likely be ruined. What he did does not warrant that, IMHO.
[quote]bwbski wrote:
only thing holding me back is it may f up the rest of his life…[/quote]
Uh, if he attacked and beat the crap out of his parents (even a to-be parent), then he’s going to screw his life up anyway via the next person he assaults who subsequently calls the cops. The difference is that someone else will get their face smashed in first.
Call the cops.
(I didn’t read the rest of the posts)