Were you doing IM injections before ?
Have I read this correctly, your e2 has dropped from 114 to 34 just by the switch to Subq ?
Have you been using adex during this time, or did you drop it completely ?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
The prices I see guys paying her are nuts.
Dhick, you find what you we’re looking for on that other site ?
ppp is the one I use.
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you guys need to check WalMart for syringe prices
can you give a better hint on the ppp pkny
[quote]PKNY wrote:
Were you doing IM injections before ?
Have I read this correctly, your e2 has dropped from 114 to 34 just by the switch to Subq ?
Have you been using adex during this time, or did you drop it completely ?[/quote]
Yes, PKNY, my E2 and my Test dropped after going SubQ. I was taking a little Arimidex, but still getting serious side effects from it. What do you think of my current levels and how would you adjust. I know the E2 is still a little high. Also, starting HCG, how much would you advise and how long does that take to make a change? As I said, I have been doing 25mg of test cyp and took 1/2 of a 25mg aromasin and 250iu of hcg. As far as I can tell, I am not having the sides I was with Armidex, but will have to wait a little longer. Should I up the test cyp some and how much aromasin would you advise? I am a little limited with only 8 caps a month. One more question, on both the 5000iu and the 10000iu HCG, it says that it only lasts 30 days refrigerated. Is that correct? Thanks!
You should sort out your E2/AI issue before throwing HCG into the mix.
How are you feeling at these new levels ?
Is the edema and BP issue easing ?
How about mood, libido and energy levels ?
With 75mg cyp per week, I’d advise no more than 6.25 aromasin at a time, and dose
it every other day. I know the pills are small, but you’ll have to quarter them.
Aromasin works pretty fast, and has a short half life, thus the EOD dosing.
Keep a close eye on your BP to see that it’s dropping…that would mean it’s working
correctly. If so, hopefully your mood, libido, energy etc will improve as well.
I would also stay at the 75mg test per week for now.
As far as HCG and how long it’s good for, Once I mix mine up, I keep it in the fridge for up to
3 months. Just be sure to keep it in a paper bag so light can’t get to it.
[quote]PKNY wrote:
Were you doing IM injections before ?
Have I read this correctly, your e2 has dropped from 114 to 34 just by the switch to Subq ?
Have you been using adex during this time, or did you drop it completely ?[/quote]
PKNY do you have an e-mail addy you can post?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
You should sort out your E2/AI issue before throwing HCG into the mix.
How are you feeling at these new levels ?
Is the edema and BP issue easing ?
How about mood, libido and energy levels ?
With 75mg cyp per week, I’d advise no more than 6.25 aromasin at a time, and dose
it every other day. I know the pills are small, but you’ll have to quarter them.
Aromasin works pretty fast, and has a short half life, thus the EOD dosing.
Keep a close eye on your BP to see that it’s dropping…that would mean it’s working
correctly. If so, hopefully your mood, libido, energy etc will improve as well.
I would also stay at the 75mg test per week for now.
As far as HCG and how long it’s good for, Once I mix mine up, I keep it in the fridge for up to
3 months. Just be sure to keep it in a paper bag so light can’t get to it.
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PKNY,
I am doing the Test Cyp 25mg EOD. Do you think it is better to dose that every day as well? When you say you dose it every day, do you do it every day of the week and then just dose the Aromasin EOD M-W-F? Just wanted some clarification. Or should I stay on the regimen I am on now? Thanks!
You don’t need to do Cyp ED.
I pin Prop everyday, but small amounts 12.5-15mg, because Prop has a much shorter half life.
Dhick is correct, you don’t need to pin Cyp daily as its a longer chained ester. However,
smaller amounts of any T are better daily in a TRT context, except maybe Test undecanoate IME.
Larger doses lead to bigger swings of T and E2 even with the ester spacing out the dose chemically,
and the daily injection more closely mimics the way your own body produces T.
That said, it sounds and from your labs, looks like you are doing much better with M-W-F .25 cyp.
I’d stay with the dose for now.
On the Aromasin, I take a quarter pill every other day. So, some weeks, I take 19mgs and some
weeks I take 25mg…just depends on which day you start.
So how are you feeling with the addition of Aromasin and subtraction of Adex ?
…can you all see me?
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
…can you all see me? [/quote]
…PKNY?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
I pin Prop everyday, but small amounts 12.5-15mg, because Prop has a much shorter half life.
Dhick is correct, you don’t need to pin Cyp daily as its a longer chained ester. However,
smaller amounts of any T are better daily in a TRT context, except maybe Test undecanoate IME.
Larger doses lead to bigger swings of T and E2 even with the ester spacing out the dose chemically,
and the daily injection more closely mimics the way your own body produces T.
That said, it sounds and from your labs, looks like you are doing much better with M-W-F .25 cyp.
I’d stay with the dose for now.
On the Aromasin, I take a quarter pill every other day. So, some weeks, I take 19mgs and some
weeks I take 25mg…just depends on which day you start.
So how are you feeling with the addition of Aromasin and subtraction of Adex ?
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I am definitely feeling better with the Aromasin. Hopefully, I am going to get Prop next week from a compounding lab in Greenville, SC. When I get that, I will follow the daily injection. I am feeling better and I notice my libido is gradually coming up. So, you are taking the quarter pill EOD regardless on what day that lands? And you are taking the Prop every day, correct? When I get the prop, I will give that a try. Thanks PKNY for all your help. I really appreciate it.
Glad to hear that you are feeling better.
I think you will like Prop vs Cyp, huge difference Libido wise.
With the small T dose I take, I do EOD with the Aromasin, although e2 can be affected by diet, alcohol etc, so
sometimes I will take it two days in a row, and sometimes every third day. Until you learn to recognize
signs of high and low e2 you should just take the quarter pill every other day.
Happy I could be of help to you!
[quote]PKNY wrote:
Glad to hear that you are feeling better.
I think you will like Prop vs Cyp, huge difference Libido wise.
With the small T dose I take, I do EOD with the Aromasin, although e2 can be affected by diet, alcohol etc, so
sometimes I will take it two days in a row, and sometimes every third day. Until you learn to recognize
signs of high and low e2 you should just take the quarter pill every other day.
Happy I could be of help to you!
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thanks for answering my question too
The site wont let me post it.
How’s it coming along Tigger ?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
How’s it coming along Tigger ?[/quote]
I am still waiting on the Prop, I am anxious to try it. I am still not consistent on the Cyp for some reason, don’t know why. I am taking the .25mg EOD as well as the Aromasin, a quarter of a pill EOD as well. I began to notice a difference when I added the HCG, so we will see. Again, thank you for your help and concern. It has been a huge blessing.
Don’t wanna highjack…
But how can we get pointed to that other supply site ?
Mac, I’ve tried to post it a few times and it gets deleted very fast.
But if you google source check you will be on your way.
PKNY,
Good news, I got the Prop today. If I was taking .75mg of CYP per week, what would you recommend for my daily regimen of Prop? Do you inject it every day of the week and then do the Aromasin every other day, or M-W-F? I am planning to start the Prop tomorrow. Thanks!
75mg of prop is actually a little more T then 75mg Cyp based on ester weight,
but stay with the 75mg dose if that’s whats been making you feel better.
There is controversy as to the half life of Prop. I’ve read anything from 1-4 days,
but because I have low SHBG I swear I feel it same day. Anyway, I inject
every day 12.5mg when I get up. I feel like it mimics the natural pattern that
my body would be following anyway. Although, sometimes I do it right before
bed and it seems like I have more energy the next day…YMMV.
If you are going to do daily injects it would just be 75/7 or @11mg per day.
I take 6…25mg aromasin (1/4th of a 25mg pill) every other day. So, if I take it M,
its m w f s, the next week its t th s. I’ve tried to break it up better, but IME it’s easier to just take it
on a regular schedule. Of course, do what makes you feel best and try to get
some blood work after a few weeks.