[quote]Professor X wrote:
bonzi50 wrote:
the feedback i am getting from this question is yet another frustrating thing about this debate. I mean why do people get so defensive.
I like arnold but i don’t place him or his routine at the pennicle of weight lifting. I also don’t defend him like he is my mother.
although i am not trying to attack him in any way.
The only people acting as if his advice is the end all of training…are the same people who log in here and are perplexed because they change their routine every single week based on what article comes out and they aren’t making all that much progress. It is the same type of person. People like that don’t think for themselves. Maybe they can’t…or maybe they just never learned. They won’t listen to several sources in an effort to learn how to create what works best for them…they will simply follow what [insert guru here] says until a newer guru pops up with even flashier advertisement.
Arnold is respected for what he has accomplished. That is all there is to it. Anyone acting as if he can make no mistakes and that following his every word is the way to success are people who won’t ever be successful anyway.
So why care that they follow him without doubt?
I knew a guy at my old gym back home that trained using Arnold’s split for 4 years. He STAYED the same skinny little ripped guy who was barely breaking 155lbs that entire time.
Try something else? Hell no. Why were guys who were NOT spending 2-3 hours a night in the gym growing faster than him? Must be creatine or steroids.
Your question is out of place to anyone who isn’t that blind.
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This is spot on. What else is new, comming from the professor?
The ICON status and the PIONEER status alone is why he gets the respect. This is without mentioning his UNIQUE build & genetics. Let alone some of his great training tips.
I for one, never even attempted to do an Arnold routine. I instead picked up a few tips from his training splits and incorportaed them into my own routines. The most usefull tools he had were more of his mindset and approach to bodybuilding… this in and of itself is pretty superior to any trainer or guru trainer. Not his actual routine or training knowledge of exercises or what not. His actual sculpting and intense training are quite awe inspiring. His actual routines… who gives a shit, that was HIS routine. Use your own goddam routine.
I think some of Arnold’s routines would suck for me, so I use my own. Therefore my routines are better than Arnolds… FOR ME! His were better than mine… FOR HIM!
Learn to extrapolate anything you can from everybody. Arnold is just the center of it all and had some pretty darn good tips for you to use… if you payed attention to how he really built himself up like that. The routines he used were just tools. But you have to know how to use the tools… the mindset, determination, and imagination were what brought it all together and created the most awe inspiring physique the planet has ever seen so far. You would probably not even be in here typing had Arnold not ever been born, now your in here asking why. Does that answer your question? If not, there is no hope for you, you are hopeless, that means less than hoping.