These are the first images I’ve seen from the Arnold. Based on these two comparisons alone, I think Phil should have taken it. I’m a big fan of both though, so I’m not complaining.
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Monopoly are you one-arming 315???
Ok,
Kai’s got that booty, Phils sags in comparison even though he’s ultra-lean. Other than that I think Phil had him, based on this photo alone.
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
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Monopoly are you one-arming 315???
Ok,
Kai’s got that booty, Phils sags in comparison even though he’s ultra-lean. Other than that I think Phil had him, based on this photo alone.[/quote]
Ha! I wish. Deadlift maybe, snatch not so much. I think that was 80kg or about 175lbs.
gotcha
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[quote]Squash85 wrote:
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he pulls off the freaky thing while remaining pleasing to look at.
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Possibly the gayest thing I’ve ever read on here. [/quote]
how fucking uncomfortable are you with yourself dude? it would suck to be you, i bet you can’t even change in front of other men can you? Looking at these top guys is like looking at a comic book character, it’s amazing.
i bet you have a shitty looking car, dress kind of ugly, don’t clean up well…get the point? if you cannot look at things with an open mind and say that looks cool/good or that looks bad/unpleasing, well dude, i’m sorry.
is it the word pleasing you don’t like, pleasing sounds like pleasure and that makes you think of cock right?
on a different note to those asking how shows are scored, regarding this show in particular. First, if Kai doesn’t limbo, flip, and breakdance people are going to be disappointed. Second, Kai could have been a touch drier but he was the biggest he’s ever been on stage, way fuller than at the O. he’ll get the condition right once he’s adjusted to the addition 10+lbs of stage weight, his chest, arms, delts were improved and will grow more.
lastly, i love phil, best arms in the game but he has flaws that glaring next bigger guys. phils back came up a ton and his BDB was great but not close to Kai’s IMHO. Phil’s legs, mid/low back need to come up, he needs muscle maturity which will come w/ yrs, PHIL’S CLAVICLES ARE NARROW, PHIL’S CHEST GETS LOST IN HIS MM BECAUSE OF THOSE ARMS. PHIL ISN’T AS COMPLETE AS KAI AND WON’T BEAT HIM ANYTIME SOON.
if phil is losing in the majority of poses and all poses from the rear…he loses. Kai’s only going to continue to hone this shit in and when he’s dry and full blending the 09’ and 10’ Arnold looks he even beats Mr. Cutler too.
Sincerely,
Oscar Ardon
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I must have hit a nerve for you to blow all that hot air my way. Keep steaming away on the internet, cause you wouldn’t say a fucking word to my face.
Oh, so you wanna question my sexuality? This coming from someone who makes hundreds of posts critiquing naked male bodies? I could have bisexual tendencies and still find that comment you made to be ridiculously flaming. I’m not here to socialize about men’s glutes; I’m here to gain knowledge on getting bigger and stronger.
So you want a relevant contribution from me here? Yes, Kai Greene looks pretty impressive. But I don’t know how you guys devote so much time to other people’s bodies. I’m noticing that many of the ‘tough guy/know-it-all’ regulars on here don’t even really train.
look i train 4-5 days a week, read, study and know my shit i’ve gone from 145lbs to 222lbs while staying in 32-34in pants.
i just felt like a reply to your comment about my statement, i’m the type to say exactly what i think directly to you bro. that being said, i’m not an internet fighter or a tough guy typer so the comment isn’t really a big deal.
Kai looks noticeably better from the back, if it wasn’t for that I would say Phil got punished a little for being more shredded. The other part is Kai’s promotion has been much better than Phil’s. People have different looks, and whoever can get the market ready for their particular look that year will have a much better chance.
He’s going to have to start his run up now though, because unless he gets much bigger his current size isn’t enough to hold attention if when new crop of talent comes in. He’ll end up like a dexter.
after seeing the videos from the Arnold Classic im surprized that Phil didn’t get it… Also when he hit the side bicep move he looked like Kevin Levrone with that Bald head lol
I was also there and thought Phil had it. He has the shape, size, conditioning, you name it, to be the winner. I like Kai too, but so what? That has no bearing on anything. The one thing I did notice on Kai that Phil did not have was the distended belly, which has at times been a liability for him. When you’re scrutinizing down to the minutiae, that should have counted against him. I thought Dexter got his pee-pee slapped for some reason? It’s hard (for me) to see how a guy with a physique similar to the top guys could place that low. Branch’s glaring weakness is his arms, specifically triceps. They do not compare to the other guys’ in shape or size. Look at his MM. Also, Freeman, JJ, and Dex do have small calves compared to the rest of their physique, though they both looked awesome. I thought Roelly Winklar looked better than some of the top names. It was a great show and the best man won. Simple.
Why did this thread get moved to GAL?
Do threads about meets get moved from powerlifting to GAL?
So, a thread about a bodybuilding competion gets moved from the bodybuilding forum? To the GAL forum?
That’s it, this site fucking sucks.
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I was also there and thought Phil had it. He has the shape, size, conditioning, you name it, to be the winner. I like Kai too, but so what? That has no bearing on anything. The one thing I did notice on Kai that Phil did not have was the distended belly, which has at times been a liability for him. When you’re scrutinizing down to the minutiae, that should have counted against him. I thought Dexter got his pee-pee slapped for some reason? It’s hard (for me) to see how a guy with a physique similar to the top guys could place that low. Branch’s glaring weakness is his arms, specifically triceps. They do not compare to the other guys’ in shape or size. Look at his MM. Also, Freeman, JJ, and Dex do have small calves compared to the rest of their physique, though they both looked awesome. I thought Roelly Winklar looked better than some of the top names. It was a great show and the best man won. Simple. [/quote]
At first you say Phil should have had it, then you say the best man won. Seems contradicting.
CB and Lock - if you’ll notice, the forum is no longer bodybuilding. It’s bodybuilding Training. I think the site wanted to make that distinction for some reason, although I’m not sure why.
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So, a thread about a bodybuilding competion gets moved from the bodybuilding forum? To the GAL forum?
That’s it, this site fucking sucks.[/quote]
My point is, we finally have a good discussion (minus the one ignorant troll) without a ton of “look good naked” toolboxes talking shit, and it gets stifled by moving it to GAL…
Does this happen on any other sub forum around here? Do threads about UFC 6,829 get moved from Combat Sports to GAL?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]TrainerDude wrote:
I was also there and thought Phil had it. He has the shape, size, conditioning, you name it, to be the winner. I like Kai too, but so what? That has no bearing on anything. The one thing I did notice on Kai that Phil did not have was the distended belly, which has at times been a liability for him. When you’re scrutinizing down to the minutiae, that should have counted against him. I thought Dexter got his pee-pee slapped for some reason? It’s hard (for me) to see how a guy with a physique similar to the top guys could place that low. Branch’s glaring weakness is his arms, specifically triceps. They do not compare to the other guys’ in shape or size. Look at his MM. Also, Freeman, JJ, and Dex do have small calves compared to the rest of their physique, though they both looked awesome. I thought Roelly Winklar looked better than some of the top names. It was a great show and the best man won. Simple. [/quote]
At first you say Phil should have had it, then you say the best man won. Seems contradicting.
CB and Lock - if you’ll notice, the forum is no longer bodybuilding. It’s bodybuilding Training. I think the site wanted to make that distinction for some reason, although I’m not sure why.[/quote]
So the results of the training are what? Moot?
It is what? The second biggest show of the year?
I think someone took the forum title a bit too literally to be honest, and it is a simple fuck up. Just like I went the opposite way on my over/under adjustment and was baffled why revenues didn’t tie to my CRC last night…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Lock wrote:
So, a thread about a bodybuilding competion gets moved from the bodybuilding forum? To the GAL forum?
That’s it, this site fucking sucks.[/quote]
My point is, we finally have a good discussion (minus the one ignorant troll) without a ton of “look good naked” toolboxes talking shit, and it gets stifled by moving it to GAL…
Does this happen on any other sub forum around here? Do threads about UFC 6,829 get moved from Combat Sports to GAL?
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What? my previous post was not written in sarcasm, I fully agree with you.
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I fully agree with you.
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yeah, I know… I just want to say more than I had originally.
My uneducated opinion is that Kai looked smoother than Phil and shouldnt have won it, Freeman should’ve placed higher, and Branch looked better than I’ve ever seen him - kind of like he tied everything all in together, instead of being this weird collection of parts - great arms, great chest, etc - that didnt really all fit together. My 2¢