Arnie and Maria Shriver Separating

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]But the passage of Marsy’s Law changed all that in California. Now every District Attorney in California is undergoing training in Marsy’s Law, and how to ensure victims are informed of their Marsy Rights. Now, victims of violent crime in California must by law be treated with respect and dignity by the criminal justice system. Courts must consider the safety of victims and families when setting bail and release conditions. And family members have legal standing in bail hearings, pleas, sentencing and parole hearings[/quote]
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Sounds like some lovely ad copy. Respect and dignity? As opposed to what?[/quote]

Is that question supposed to be asking something?

Are you trying to backhand something?

Try making a statement and not an innuendo if you want to get a point across.

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[quote]Gaius Octavius wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Gaius Octavius wrote:
Union hate is perfectly justified though.[/quote]

I understand your sentiment, and for the most part, in today’s world, it is often true.

BUT

Unions did a lot of good for this country and the general premise of them is a very good thing for the people as a whole, in general.

Just like religion though, the people involved fucked up a good thing. [/quote]

I’m not denying that they served a historical role. Today however they are strangling economies and retarding living standards. Whenever gov. gets involved with unions, bad things happen.[/quote]

I don’t disagree.

OG, no I’m not in Cali, nor am I aware about the pension issues. But it being a pension, I’m sure I can guess what is wrong.

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**** BREAKING NEWS ****

San Diego County District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis has filed a lawsuit of Schwarzen-failure’s sentence commutation because “he was helping out a friend.” The lawsuit claims to have violated the victim’s family’s civil rights according to Marsy’s Law. He did not follow protocol, nor did he notify appropriate people, nor was the reasoning behind the commutation moral or just. The lawsuit seeks to reinstate the original 16 yr sentence of the dirtbag boy who stabbed the victim.

So to recap…

Arnold’s legacy has been defined by

  1. Instilled the largest tax increase in US History.
  2. Implemented a Statewide Global Varming (that is how he pronounces it) Law, while driving a Hummer and frequently using a private jet.
  3. Spiraled the California government into financial collapse by increasing it by 40%.
  4. Being divorced due to his ego, his narcissism, and his womanizing ways.
  5. Being sued civilly by the Santos family (the family of the victim).
  6. Being sued by the San Diego Superior Court for filing and granting an unscrupulous sentence commutation.

Way to go Arnie !

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Nobody messes with officer Kimble.

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http://sadarnold.com/

Your welcome T-Nation.

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YAY!!! I have been waiting for that freaking News Alert!! Go Dumanis!

I think she is running for our mayor also. Good, get Sanders out of here.

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How Arnold slores himself…

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]But the passage of Marsy’s Law changed all that in California. Now every District Attorney in California is undergoing training in Marsy’s Law, and how to ensure victims are informed of their Marsy Rights. Now, victims of violent crime in California must by law be treated with respect and dignity by the criminal justice system. Courts must consider the safety of victims and families when setting bail and release conditions. And family members have legal standing in bail hearings, pleas, sentencing and parole hearings[/quote]
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Sounds like some lovely ad copy. Respect and dignity? As opposed to what?[/quote]

Is that question supposed to be asking something?

Are you trying to backhand something?

Try making a statement and not an innuendo if you want to get a point across.
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I did make a statement: the wording is ridiculous.

Why do you assume every time I respond to you (lately?) that I’m making some thinly veiled insult at you or what you post? I don’t get it.

This has nothing to do with you. Please put down the mace. The computer screen can’t cry.

I’m asking:

The way the “law” is worded, how the fuck were victims treated before? That’s a serious question, not rhetorical. I am asking for a response because I’m unclear how a victim in these cases is normally treated.

The “respect and dignity” IS ad copy; it’s meant to evoke an emotional response, to get people to side with Marsy’s Law. Do you disagree? Sounded like you think Marsy’s Law IS ridiculous, which would mean that we are on the same goddamn page.

(disclaimer: no innuendo was used in the above post)

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]But the passage of Marsy’s Law changed all that in California. Now every District Attorney in California is undergoing training in Marsy’s Law, and how to ensure victims are informed of their Marsy Rights. Now, victims of violent crime in California must by law be treated with respect and dignity by the criminal justice system. Courts must consider the safety of victims and families when setting bail and release conditions. And family members have legal standing in bail hearings, pleas, sentencing and parole hearings[/quote]
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Sounds like some lovely ad copy. Respect and dignity? As opposed to what?[/quote]

Is that question supposed to be asking something?

Are you trying to backhand something?

Try making a statement and not an innuendo if you want to get a point across.
[/quote]

I did make a statement: the wording is ridiculous.

Why do you assume every time I respond to you (lately?) that I’m making some thinly veiled insult at you or what you post? I don’t get it.

This has nothing to do with you. Please put down the mace. The computer screen can’t cry.

I’m asking:

The way the “law” is worded, how the fuck were victims treated before? That’s a serious question, not rhetorical. I am asking for a response because I’m unclear how a victim in these cases is normally treated.

The “respect and dignity” IS ad copy; it’s meant to evoke an emotional response, to get people to side with Marsy’s Law. Do you disagree? Sounded like you think Marsy’s Law IS ridiculous, which would mean that we are on the same goddamn page.

(disclaimer: no innuendo was used in the above post)[/quote]

Yes, you do not want to see it but it was all innuendo, go back and read yourself. I have no axe to grind with you. I haven’t even posted in ages so get over yourself.

There is nothing out of usual in the wording. This just makes me think you are ignorant of The Constitution. Have you never read any laws or writs or amendments?

Do not even get me started on The Bill of Rights. This just makes me think you really have not read laws or any actual writs or amendments. “respect and dignity” is right up there with the “PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS”… hey how about “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.” So were they? Who is “man” what is “happiness” what is “equal”?"

EXACTLY…

The verbiage in the statement is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT as it is to the presiding judge of the time to determine the infraction. Does that help to explain the words of which you took such offense?

In any case, what isn’t included in a law is not subject to that law including any such esoteric or idealized traits such as dignity and respect.

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I’m not “ignorant of The Constitution.” Save the condescension for someone else. What have I tried to “backhand” ? Jesus fucking Christ.

Are you in favor of Marsy’s Law? I’m not sure where you stand. What do you think of it?

The point is that offenders should not be released as soon as they have historically been released, because it is an “insult” to the victim. So, parole denials can be extended far longer than they traditionally have been, and that this is the “respect and dignity” toward the victims on the part of the justice system. That’s all I got from reading about it.

Is there anything else to it? Anyone else want to comment?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
his womanizing ways.

Way to go Arnie ![/quote]

Why are you making that sound like a bad thing?

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Is there any evidence of infidelity?

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’m not “ignorant of The Constitution.” Save the condescension for someone else. What have I tried to “backhand” ? Jesus fucking Christ.

Are you in favor of Marsy’s Law? I’m not sure where you stand. What do you think of it?

The point is that offenders should not be released as soon as they have historically been released, because it is an “insult” to the victim. So, parole denials can be extended far longer than they traditionally have been, and that this is the “respect and dignity” toward the victims on the part of the justice system. That’s all I got from reading about it.

Is there anything else to it? Anyone else want to comment?[/quote]

well you sure didn’t qualify what you found so ridiculous in your first post. I read that you took issue of certain words. I am not wrong in that.

It just comes across that you really are unaware of the Nunez-Schwarzenegger issue and the absolute insult to the people.

so… do you want to cut the innuendo and tell me what it is about “respect” you have issues with as it is so much a part of so much of our legislature?

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Yes, I had read about the case and yes, I agree that it is ridiculous, but why not just strip governors of the ability to commute sentences? Other states have done it. Perhaps you identify with it more closely because of where you are, and that’s fine, I would have done the same if it happened here. I thought it was ridiculous that the Oakland cop Mesherle shot that kid in the back when he was face down.

So, you’re asking me a question when YOU yourself have a history of ignoring questions? Remember the tipping thread? You did that all day long.

You literally step over questions as if they are lawn ornaments. I have no clue if you’re aware that you’re doing that, or if you’re so focused on having a come back that you just don’t process the lines that end with question marks. I seriously am not sure, but I’m curious if it’s intentional or just subconscious and unintentional. You do it all the time and frankly I don’t care to engage you in any discussion until I get an answer to that; wait, that would be another question. Oh well.

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
I never thought Maria and Arnold were a match made in heaven. Not because she’s a democrat and he’s a republican, and she’s from a wealthy American royal family and he’s from immigrant farmer stock. It’s because they can never have sex without her body cracking like a twig. How much fun can that be?[/quote]

I have always thought that Maria Shiver is ugly. Sharp face, square jaws…she looks weird to me.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Too bad you don’t like Tatiana Ali? She lives in my townhouse complex. [/quote]

Why are you guys still talking about Arnold? We must capitalize on this golden opportunity that the gods have bless us with. Don’t tell me you guys don’t know what she looks like nowadays.