[quote]Professor X wrote:
Brown rice = overrated. I saw no reduction in fat loss by eating white rice. Don’t believe the hype.[/quote]
x2 I eat basmati rice and white potatoes with my meals instead of brown rice and sweet potatoes. My taste buds thank me and i have noticed no difference in body comp whether i was trying to gain or lose weight.
I wouldn’t eat brown rice even if it was legitimately better. Choking down a cup of brown rice is one of the most unpleasant things on earth.
[quote]overstand wrote:
I wouldn’t eat brown rice even if it was legitimately better. Choking down a cup of brown rice is one of the most unpleasant things on earth.[/quote]
I agree! I just did it bc I thought it was the only way lol
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Brown rice = overrated. I saw no reduction in fat loss by eating white rice. Don’t believe the hype.[/quote]
Nice to know! Im definitely going to add a few cups of white rice to my diet!
maybe I missed it… OP you mention your BP and your DL…
You’re doing direct bi and tri work too right?
Yeah I am. Im following WS4SB to “the tee.” haha. I do have some more questions tho and I dont want to take up another thread. Still on my diet not adding any size and have noticed that really my whole body is lagging. LOl. Im just too small for my liking but one body part I have never seen progress are my traps…Done everything! Idk if its just genetics or what. I have tried high volume, Ive tried too heavy of weight and tried to pull it up for 5 or 6, Ive tried slow reps and squeezing at the top of the movement, and now im trying with dumbbells while sitting down so I dont use my legs at all. Also while trying all those movements I always keep the bar an inch away from my thighs keeping all the weight on my traps and not being assisted by my legs. Since I started lifting at 16 (now 19, incase you dont wanna look) have noticed nothing in traps! Lol more ideas!?
[quote]JoeyMicas11 wrote:
Yeah I am. Im following WS4SB to “the tee.” haha. I do have some more questions tho and I dont want to take up another thread. Still on my diet not adding any size and have noticed that really my whole body is lagging. LOl. Im just too small for my liking but one body part I have never seen progress are my traps…Done everything! Idk if its just genetics or what. I have tried high volume, Ive tried too heavy of weight and tried to pull it up for 5 or 6, Ive tried slow reps and squeezing at the top of the movement, and now im trying with dumbbells while sitting down so I dont use my legs at all. Also while trying all those movements I always keep the bar an inch away from my thighs keeping all the weight on my traps and not being assisted by my legs. Since I started lifting at 16 (now 19, incase you dont wanna look) have noticed nothing in traps! Lol more ideas!?[/quote]
Eat more, get stronger.
If you are not eating enough to gain muscle, what the hell makes you think you can somehow add muscle to your traps?
How much weight are you using on these shrugs? I bet if you double it, your traps will grow.
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
thats what you want before training[/quote]
Disclaimer: I’m a relative beginner
Assuming this is in reference to an insulin spike, I think that this is incorrect. The insulin spike is what you want after training. As per MODOK’s nutrition q&a, if you had an insulin spike before training, you would end up feeling sick and such during training.
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
thats what you want before training[/quote]
Disclaimer: I’m a relative beginner
Assuming this is in reference to an insulin spike, I think that this is incorrect. The insulin spike is what you want after training. As per MODOK’s nutrition q&a, if you had an insulin spike before training, you would end up feeling sick and such during training.[/quote]
I never feel sick during training and I eat two chocolate bars and 40grams of whey before I train as BBB has recommended.
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
thats what you want before training[/quote]
Disclaimer: I’m a relative beginner
Assuming this is in reference to an insulin spike, I think that this is incorrect. The insulin spike is what you want after training. As per MODOK’s nutrition q&a, if you had an insulin spike before training, you would end up feeling sick and such during training.[/quote]
I never feel sick during training and I eat two chocolate bars and 40grams of whey before I train as BBB has recommended. [/quote]
I’ve done this as well, with no ill effects. But I also sipped on a whey/Gatorade blend during the workout, so I was takings in a constant flow of carbs, potentially keeping me from crashing…
Just because it furthers the discussion in the thread, I’ll just toss in MODOK’s Q&A (from page three):
"Workout carbohydrate consumption is done for two reasons that aren’t mutually exclusive. First, pre and peri carbohydrates are ingested to provide energy for the workout and spare circulating amino acids from being deaminated and burned as energy themselves. Fo this purpose, I would use a lower insulinergic carb such as a starch of some kind. You do not need pre workout carbs, and people on low carb diets probably don’t want to take them since they are adapted to using free fatty acids for energy. Of course, anyone can use any of the various stimulants that arre so popular to sustain themselves in their workout as well. Post workout carbs are a different story. They are eaten specifically to illicit a strong insulin response, drive nutrients into the cells and get the growth factor machinery up and running. For this, you need an product with a very high insulin index- kids cereal, waxy maize, Surge, etc. You do NOT want to take a large amount of this product during training. The last thing you need when lifting is an insulin tidal wave causing you nausea and light-headedness. Take it after all physical activity is over and you can rest for at least an hour or so. A very strong insulin surge is the most important thing you can do for anabolism. For maximum muscle mass you should make this post workout drink a priority. Spend the extra coin on a quality supplement if you need to. "
I guess that explanation always made sense to me.
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
if you had an insulin spike before training, you would end up feeling sick and such during training.[/quote]
No.
If you eat too much, too soon before training you may feel sick and performance may suffer.
Carbs and protein pre workout is superior to post workout shakes of similar composition. IMO.
I mean if you dont feel well when you have carbs before your workout, that’s fine. But you cant say that everyone will feel that way. It certainly isn’t a categorical truth. And you didnt acknowledge the point MODOK makes about a ‘large’ amount of insulin spiking nutrients pre workout and a not so large (I guess?) amount of nutrients. Without that distinction MODOKs post is self-contradictory
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
thats what you want before training[/quote]
Disclaimer: I’m a relative beginner
Assuming this is in reference to an insulin spike, I think that this is incorrect. The insulin spike is what you want after training. As per MODOK’s nutrition q&a, if you had an insulin spike before training, you would end up feeling sick and such during training.[/quote]
I never feel sick during training and I eat two chocolate bars and 40grams of whey before I train as BBB has recommended. [/quote]
I’ve done this as well, with no ill effects. But I also sipped on a whey/Gatorade blend during the workout, so I was takings in a constant flow of carbs, potentially keeping me from crashing…[/quote]
I sip on a similar drink throughout my training too. So far it’s only been a couple of weeks since I started but it is definitely making me feel better during training and recovery also feels better.
Im shrugging 3 plates maybe 3 plus a 25 but when I do that heavy I tend to use my legs a little bit. And on DB’s I use 100’s because thats the highest my gym has.
[quote]JoeyMicas11 wrote:
Im shrugging 3 plates maybe 3 plus a 25 but when I do that heavy I tend to use my legs a little bit. And on DB’s I use 100’s because thats the highest my gym has.[/quote]
Uh ill share what I’ve done recently to help my traps catch up.
First I increased volume
Instead of only doing 3 sets of shrugs on my shoulder workouts I’ve doubled it to 6 (3 barbell and 3 db) not including ramp style warmups
And I hit shoulders just about once every five or six days.
Also I use to be very worried about strict form and not using straps for fear of grip under development so I never really shrugged more than 275lbs since that was all I could really hold and not to mention when it came to dumbbells I could hold even less.
Well eventually I realized I had to get my numbers up so I said fuck form and fuck not using straps
I can now shrug more obviously with straps and bad form.
But now holding 315 without straps and with perfect form while warming up is nothing, and I’m blasting through a long trap plateau in terms of both size and strength.
I mean many may disagree with me saying it’s not safe which holds truth. But I’ve noticed sometimes sacrificing form for more weight with some muscle groups has helped me move through plateaus forcing myself to get stronger.
I mean some of these guys barbell/hammer/db curl outrageous amounts of weight do you really think they spent their whole training time span doing perfect form all of the time?
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
[quote]JoeyMicas11 wrote:
Im shrugging 3 plates maybe 3 plus a 25 but when I do that heavy I tend to use my legs a little bit. And on DB’s I use 100’s because thats the highest my gym has.[/quote]
Uh ill share what I’ve done recently to help my traps catch up.
First I increased volume
Instead of only doing 3 sets of shrugs on my shoulder workouts I’ve doubled it to 6 (3 barbell and 3 db) not including ramp style warmups
And I hit shoulders just about once every five or six days.
Also I use to be very worried about strict form and not using straps for fear of grip under development so I never really shrugged more than 275lbs since that was all I could really hold and not to mention when it came to dumbbells I could hold even less.
Well eventually I realized I had to get my numbers up so I said fuck form and fuck not using straps
I can now shrug more obviously with straps and bad form.
But now holding 315 without straps and with perfect form while warming up is nothing, and I’m blasting through a long trap plateau in terms of both size and strength.
I mean many may disagree with me saying it’s not safe which holds truth. But I’ve noticed sometimes sacrificing form for more weight with some muscle groups has helped me move through plateaus forcing myself to get stronger.
I mean some of these guys barbell/hammer/db curl outrageous amounts of weight do you really think they spent their whole training time span doing perfect form all of the time?[/quote]
I will try, thanks.