[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Do you tri delt dominant guys tuck your scalps really hard when pressing? That made a big difference for me when I learned to keep that portion tight, especially with a barbell.[/quote]
Yup, I always do.
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I like to use mostly machines because otherwise I end up using too much delt. Even with DB’s I Still seem to do it.[/quote]
Way, your back is ridonculous in that avi, baby![/quote]
hahaha, thanks man. Much luv!
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I like to use mostly machines because otherwise I end up using too much delt. Even with DB’s I Still seem to do it.[/quote]
I find that this can be solved through adjustment of arm placement. [/quote]
I’ve practiced with it. Lately I’ve been doing some DB benching with lighter weights and really trying to flare my elbows. I get a very good stretch and it feels like the exercise is working but at some point my delts always kick in when the weights go up. Because of that I’m just sticking with like 80’s at the very end of my workout and using it as a finisher.[/quote]
have you tried decreasing the ROM?
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I like to use mostly machines because otherwise I end up using too much delt. Even with DB’s I Still seem to do it.[/quote]
I find that this can be solved through adjustment of arm placement. [/quote]
I’ve practiced with it. Lately I’ve been doing some DB benching with lighter weights and really trying to flare my elbows. I get a very good stretch and it feels like the exercise is working but at some point my delts always kick in when the weights go up. Because of that I’m just sticking with like 80’s at the very end of my workout and using it as a finisher.[/quote]
have you tried decreasing the ROM? [/quote]
Yah, I mean I feel it in my shoulders at the very bottom sometimes. I dunno it’s hard to explain. It’s the same reason I’m not a huge fan of flies either, I always feel it run into my shoulders/traps and it just gets uncomfortable.
I have chest tomorrow so I’ll mess around with form and see what I can do.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I like to use mostly machines because otherwise I end up using too much delt. Even with DB’s I Still seem to do it.[/quote]
I find that this can be solved through adjustment of arm placement. [/quote]
I’ve practiced with it. Lately I’ve been doing some DB benching with lighter weights and really trying to flare my elbows. I get a very good stretch and it feels like the exercise is working but at some point my delts always kick in when the weights go up. Because of that I’m just sticking with like 80’s at the very end of my workout and using it as a finisher.[/quote]
have you tried decreasing the ROM? [/quote]
Yah, I mean I feel it in my shoulders at the very bottom sometimes. I dunno it’s hard to explain. It’s the same reason I’m not a huge fan of flies either, I always feel it run into my shoulders/traps and it just gets uncomfortable.
I have chest tomorrow so I’ll mess around with form and see what I can do.[/quote]
Definitely. I think DBs are too fantastic of a tool to not use. Gotta figure out the movement that works with you.
Have you tried the DC pec stretch Way? And also it would make sense to me to use more decline chest work if shoulders are taking over, have you tried that?
I feel pretty lucky that I can activate every muscle pretty easily with normal movements, but at the same time not so lucky because you’re way fucking bigger than me and you’re my only one year older! Fuck! lol
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I like to use mostly machines because otherwise I end up using too much delt. Even with DB’s I Still seem to do it.[/quote]
I find that this can be solved through adjustment of arm placement. [/quote]
I’ve practiced with it. Lately I’ve been doing some DB benching with lighter weights and really trying to flare my elbows. I get a very good stretch and it feels like the exercise is working but at some point my delts always kick in when the weights go up. Because of that I’m just sticking with like 80’s at the very end of my workout and using it as a finisher.[/quote]
have you tried decreasing the ROM? [/quote]
Yah, I mean I feel it in my shoulders at the very bottom sometimes. I dunno it’s hard to explain. It’s the same reason I’m not a huge fan of flies either, I always feel it run into my shoulders/traps and it just gets uncomfortable.
I have chest tomorrow so I’ll mess around with form and see what I can do.[/quote]
Wow, I’m now embarrassed having a back shot in my avatar after seeing yours.
/endhijack
Yes, BACK to the Pec Talk!
How many times a week do you hit chest Akuma? I personally like twice a week.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
How many times a week do you hit chest Akuma? I personally like twice a week.
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Once. I actually might revamp my plan coming up pretty soon, though. So we’ll see what happens.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
How many times a week do you hit chest Akuma? I personally like twice a week.
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Once. I actually might revamp my plan coming up pretty soon, though. So we’ll see what happens.[/quote]
I see. Also, I know soreness isn’t really a good indicator of whether or not an intense workout was achieved or not, but do you find yourself chest sore after a chest day?
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
How many times a week do you hit chest Akuma? I personally like twice a week.
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Once. I actually might revamp my plan coming up pretty soon, though. So we’ll see what happens.[/quote]
I see. Also, I know soreness isn’t really a good indicator of whether or not an intense workout was achieved or not, but do you find yourself chest sore after a chest day?[/quote]
Every muscle i work is sore the day after, always. Most of them feel fine within a couple days. My legs are the only thing that remain sore for about 5 days. I would say it is bad that this is the case, but honestly, my legs are literally bursting with growth, they are getting Wider, Thicker, and denser by the week. It may have something to do with my exercise selection, the combinations i use, the variety, or perhaps all 3, but regardless of the reason, My legs are now getting larger by the week. Not too long ago, i believe i wrote on here that my legs are 28inches, They are now 29, and thats cold too.
Nice work on the legs (speaking of which, do you have one of those threads coming up soon? haha). I find myself sore too most of the time, which I like. I’m usually sore only for a day or maybe two, then I’m all good to hit it again.
I’m going to put much more effort into flyes over the next few months and see how I react to it.
What did your most recent chest day include for exercises?
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
Nice work on the legs (speaking of which, do you have one of those threads coming up soon? haha). I find myself sore too most of the time, which I like. I’m usually sore only for a day or maybe two, then I’m all good to hit it again.
I’m going to put much more effort into flyes over the next few months and see how I react to it.
What did your most recent chest day include for exercises?[/quote]
Lol well i do have a Hamstring thread, but maybe ill make a Leg thread in a couple weeks. Yea, lemme go snag my journal really quick…
Erright-
Reps/weight
Incline Bench- 15/95, 8/135, 8/185, 8/225, 8/275, 8/315
Flat DB fly- 8/40, 8/60, 8/80, 8/90
Decline Smith Bench- 8/135, 8/225, 8/315, 8/405
Dips-8/BW, 8/+25, 8/+45, 8/+70
Smith Flat BB Explosion (IBB style pressing)- 8/135 x 2, 8/185x2
Cable Flys (tilted forward a bit and pinching at the top)- 15/30, 15/50, 15/60, 15/70
DB pullovers 12/40, 12/60, 10/80, 10/100
Akuma, i’d appreciate another thread discussing legs 
My chest loves incline db presses, I try to keep the triangle form on my reps, sometimes I also stop at the bottom and at the top (for the stretch and the squeeze, though when attemping larger db’s, I usually fail on this … hehe) . Also, the incline db flies did more for my chest than anything else, fortunately I have never-ending arms, so I get great activation by flies. :
Pec training always consist a bb pressing, a db pressing, and a fly, sometimes when I have the energy I do dips in the end. When I had access to low-pulley cables, I often used them, but my gym no longer has them.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Erright-
Reps/weight
Incline Bench- 15/95, 8/135, 8/185, 8/225, 8/275, 8/315
Flat DB fly- 8/40, 8/60, 8/80, 8/90
Decline Smith Bench- 8/135, 8/225, 8/315, 8/405
Dips-8/BW, 8/+25, 8/+45, 8/+70
Smith Flat BB Explosion (IBB style pressing)- 8/135 x 2, 8/185x2
Cable Flys (tilted forward a bit and pinching at the top)- 15/30, 15/50, 15/60, 15/70
DB pullovers 12/40, 12/60, 10/80, 10/100
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Cool thanks man. Nice to see what some of the bigger guys are doing and take some things away from that.
As far as the pullovers expanding the rib cage, I know from reading Arnold’s Encyclopedia he is a big fan of them for that reason. But another thread a few months back I recall, some people were adamant that it doesn’t affect rib cage.
[quote]Vejne wrote:
Akuma, i’d appreciate another thread discussing legs
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Lol in due time. people are gonna get sick of me if i keep posting these threads lol
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Erright-
Reps/weight
Incline Bench- 15/95, 8/135, 8/185, 8/225, 8/275, 8/315
Flat DB fly- 8/40, 8/60, 8/80, 8/90
Decline Smith Bench- 8/135, 8/225, 8/315, 8/405
Dips-8/BW, 8/+25, 8/+45, 8/+70
Smith Flat BB Explosion (IBB style pressing)- 8/135 x 2, 8/185x2
Cable Flys (tilted forward a bit and pinching at the top)- 15/30, 15/50, 15/60, 15/70
DB pullovers 12/40, 12/60, 10/80, 10/100
[/quote]
Cool thanks man. Nice to see what some of the bigger guys are doing and take some things away from that.
As far as the pullovers expanding the rib cage, I know from reading Arnold’s Encyclopedia he is a big fan of them for that reason. But another thread a few months back I recall, some people were adamant that it doesn’t affect rib cage.
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Yes i know some believe that, But facts are facts. A six time Olympia tells me to do something, a random person on the internet says something different, take a guess at who im going to listen to. If i allowed negative nancys like that to affect my workouts, then id still be a 220lb ball of jello blubbering about how its not my fault and its all genetics, while i macked down a box of oreos.
Could rest a cup on that