[quote]Professor X wrote:
Joe Brook wrote:
how childish, a mis-quote!
Well done, this thread is dead! See you again gentlemen!
Joe
A misquote? I quoted EXACTLY what you wrote. How old are you?[/quote]
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
I found this clip from the movie pumping iron where Arnold talks about bodybuilding…
I’m not a bodybuilder, yet…I’m still in my foundation stage, I will never step on to a stage but there is a look I’m going for and training and eating like a bodybuilder is the only way to get it. I’m not hung up on how much I weigh either but I am concerned about the waist line. Whether I’m under or over 200lbs, as long as I get the look I’m going for, I’m good. I understand I have to lift “heavy ass” weight to force my body to change and I have no problem with that.
[quote]derek wrote:
NY_Pitbull wrote:
Im a middle aged guy in a college town.
You forgot to mention that you’re also a college student. And when you drive to work you’re a NASCAR driver and when you ate lunch today you were a competitive eater.
And I have two kids… So I’m making the stretch that I’m also a porn star. I mean I know I “did it” at least twice! (yes, the kids ARE mine)[/quote]
sorry im 45 jackass learn to read a profile.what you cant do 2 things during a week? or your nanny only lets you play alone.Nascar? hello im italian and lived in nycity 25 years if i want to see someone go in a cirlce I’ll watch my 4 year old niece on her big wheel.
[quote]NY_Pitbull wrote:
derek wrote:
NY_Pitbull wrote:
Im a middle aged guy in a college town.
You forgot to mention that you’re also a college student. And when you drive to work you’re a NASCAR driver and when you ate lunch today you were a competitive eater.
And I have two kids… So I’m making the stretch that I’m also a porn star. I mean I know I “did it” at least twice! (yes, the kids ARE mine)
sorry im 45 jackass learn to read a profile.what you cant do 2 things during a week? or your nanny only lets you play alone.Nascar? hello im italian and lived in nycity 25 years if i want to see someone go in a cirlce I’ll watch my 4 year old niece on her big wheel.
[/quote]
Dude, calm down! I was going along with what you wrote in your post. I THOUGHT I was just continuing your sarcastic train of thought.
That is unless you were serious about being a member of the Gracie family when you go to the dojo.
And the NASCAR comment, it goes like this; if you were paying attention in this thread, we were talking about those that just hit the gym a couple times a week yet call themselves bodybuilders. I compared that to someone calling themselves a NASCAR driver simply because they drove a car. Not that YOU actually did but I can already see the irony was lost on you.
And why the fuck did you snap back like that? Do you jump to conclusions much?
I re-read my post about 10 tiimes and I still can’t see how you misinterpreted what I wrote as an insult to you.
And when you call someone who sided with you and was trying to back up your post, a “jackass”, at least use some punctuation and grammar ok? Or better yet, let your niece type it for you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
One of these guys is a bodybuilder. One is not.[/quote]
Um… is the guy on the right holding a trophy?
[quote]thomas.galvin wrote:
Professor X wrote:
One of these guys is a bodybuilder. One is not.
Um… is the guy on the right holding a trophy?[/quote]
Yes. A teeny tiny one.
NY Pitbull. I am from NYC too, Queens. Where are you from?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
thomas.galvin wrote:
Um… is the guy on the right holding a trophy?
Yes. A teeny tiny one.[/quote]
Is this some sort of “aw shucks, everyone’s a winner, here you go” thing, or was he honestly in better condition than almost everyone else there?
[quote]thomas.galvin wrote:
Professor X wrote:
thomas.galvin wrote:
Um… is the guy on the right holding a trophy?
Yes. A teeny tiny one.
Is this some sort of “aw shucks, everyone’s a winner, here you go” thing, or was he honestly in better condition than almost everyone else there?[/quote]
I don’t know about that specific photo, but it isn’t that uncommon to see some out of shape or really skinny guy who is competing “simply for the experience” who actually wins a trophy simply because no one else was competing in his weight class with him. These are the same types who will go around and brag that they have competed (as if the simple act of doing so is an accomplishment), but who you would barely be able to tell actually lifted by looking at them.
That alone is why the act of competing doesn’t make anyone a bodybuilder in and of itself…because there are many people out there who have accomplished little but hold that title in small local competitions.
Professor X has gone wild!
To me being a body builder means if you make x amount of dollars a week, a good amount of it is spent on food you don’t enjoy but you inhale anyways because you know it’ll make you huge.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Professor X has gone wild![/quote]
WHATCHA GONNA DO BROTHER, WHEN PROFESSOR X RUNS WILD OVER YOU?!
Good grief. The quality of posts seems to have hit the ground and started digging lately.
I’d have said anyone training and eating like a bodybuilder is pretty much a bodybuilder.
Being large and muscular helps too.
[quote]Envision wrote:
To me being a body builder means if you make x amount of dollars a week, a good amount of it is spent on food you don’t enjoy but you inhale anyways because you know it’ll make you huge.[/quote]
ahhaha! Truth.
Prof, you’re dead right. I think you and Joe were just using different words for the same concept anyway (could be wrong). Bodybuilding is about commitment. If you have that drive and commitment, then I don’t see that it matters whether or not you step on stage. I do believe that you should be able to see results over time, however. But If there’s no ultimate commitment then even if you win a competition you’re still not a bber. I think I know a few shrimps I would qualify as bodybuilders just because of their drive and commitment. I’m training a newb now that I would consider to have that drive.
I myself am probably not a bodybuilder. I have no desire to compete, and I don’t really have a desire to be freakishly huge. So by that standard, no I am not. But if you take a post mentioned a page or so ago that talked about sculpting a body into what you want it to ultimately be, then maybe I am. I’m striving for freakish strength, and aesthetic balance at the same time, and I DO want muscle on my frame. I dunno. I want to look good and perform well at the same time. It’s like Arnold talks about in the Pumping Iron clip-sculpting perfection with exercise.
I do know that I possess that drive and commitment to make my goals happen. I’ve had it since I began training. And I can safely say I’ve seen results. Bottom line is I don’t know or care if people label me a bber, unless they think I’m simply training to be oiled up on stage or for pure narcissistic motivation —then I set them straight that I want to compete in PL. Sorry guys :).
I might upset some people here and for that I am sorry. I believe you cannot call yourself a bodybuilder until you actually compete in a bodybuilding show. I started serious training and diet when I was 16. I remember back then I was always careful not say I was a bodybuilder because I had not yet stepped on stage. In fact I didn’t step on stage until I was around 21, and until that time I would just tell people “I work out”.
For me, it just felt like I was lying to myself to say I was a bodybuilder. It was like saying I was a basketball player even though I only played a few times a week. And don’t get me wrong, when I say I trained seriously, I’m talking about 5 day splits w/ cardio, eating seven meals a day. I mean working out was my life (as it still is) but I wasn’t a “bodybuilder” until I stepped on that stage for the first time hitting my mandatories. So I guess after saying all that crap, yes, I am a bodybuilder.
-M
[quote]mbaina wrote:
I might upset some people here and for that I am sorry. I believe you cannot call yourself a bodybuilder until you actually compete in a bodybuilding show. I started serious training and diet when I was 16. I remember back then I was always careful not say I was a bodybuilder because I had not yet stepped on stage. In fact I didn’t step on stage until I was around 21, and until that time I would just tell people “I work out”.
For me, it just felt like I was lying to myself to say I was a bodybuilder. It was like saying I was a basketball player even though I only played a few times a week. And don’t get me wrong, when I say I trained seriously, I’m talking about 5 day splits w/ cardio, eating seven meals a day. I mean working out was my life (as it still is) but I wasn’t a “bodybuilder” until I stepped on that stage for the first time hitting my mandatories. So I guess after saying all that crap, yes, I am a bodybuilder.
-M[/quote]
I would call you a bodybuilder also, however, I also know the response I get from other people in the gym and outside of the gym. That tells me how I appear to others which is why I don’t feel awkward taking that title now even though I wouldn’t have dared do the same as a beginner or even years ago as an intermediate.
You have to admit that there are people nowhere near your level of development who step on stage way before they are truly ready. They call themselves bodybuilders also.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
thomas.galvin wrote:
Professor X wrote:
thomas.galvin wrote:
Um… is the guy on the right holding a trophy?
Yes. A teeny tiny one.
Is this some sort of “aw shucks, everyone’s a winner, here you go” thing, or was he honestly in better condition than almost everyone else there?
I don’t know about that specific photo, but it isn’t that uncommon to see some out of shape or really skinny guy who is competing “simply for the experience” who actually wins a trophy simply because no one else was competing in his weight class with him. These are the same types who will go around and brag that they have competed (as if the simple act of doing so is an accomplishment), but who you would barely be able to tell actually lifted by looking at them.
That alone is why the act of competing doesn’t make anyone a bodybuilder in and of itself…because there are many people out there who have accomplished little but hold that title in small local competitions.[/quote]
That’s a good point man, I shouldve read more of the thread. There are always those fuckin freaks who get some twisted thrill out of standing on stage looking like shit. They always look like child molesters or psyche patients. What I meant was being a “bodybuilder” actually means competing with a goal of continuously progressing towards the ultimate goal of turning pro. That’s why I compete. Every show I do, is with the intent of gaining more experience towards one day earning my pro-card.
-M
Tough call.
I’m most certainly not a bodybuilder. At 175 lbs. and 5’7, you can tell I lift, but no one trembles while looking at me.
Unless I’m being a hypocrite, I’d have to say that you’re not a bodybuilder until you compete.
It’s just like someone who boxes calling themselves a fighter without stepping into the ring. Well, no, I wouldn’t call you a fighter unless you’ve got a few fights under your belt.
You ain’t a pilot if you never fly a plane, and you ain’t an accountant just because you’re good at math.
Some things you just have to compete in.
But what the fuck do I know. As far as I’m concerned it’s up in the air with this one.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tough call.
I’m most certainly not a bodybuilder. At 175 lbs. and 5’7, you can tell I lift, but no one trembles while looking at me.
Unless I’m being a hypocrite, I’d have to say that you’re not a bodybuilder until you compete.
It’s just like someone who boxes calling themselves a fighter without stepping into the ring. Well, no, I wouldn’t call you a fighter unless you’ve got a few fights under your belt.
You ain’t a pilot if you never fly a plane, and you ain’t an accountant just because you’re good at math.
Some things you just have to compete in.
But what the fuck do I know. As far as I’m concerned it’s up in the air with this one.[/quote]
If people can’t even come to a final conclusion on whether bodybuilding is a sport or not, there is no way we can claim that competition is the determining factor.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tough call.
I’m most certainly not a bodybuilder. At 175 lbs. and 5’7, you can tell I lift, but no one trembles while looking at me.
Unless I’m being a hypocrite, I’d have to say that you’re not a bodybuilder until you compete.
It’s just like someone who boxes calling themselves a fighter without stepping into the ring. Well, no, I wouldn’t call you a fighter unless you’ve got a few fights under your belt.
You ain’t a pilot if you never fly a plane, and you ain’t an accountant just because you’re good at math.
Some things you just have to compete in.
But what the fuck do I know. As far as I’m concerned it’s up in the air with this one.[/quote]
I guess it is because of the line of work I have chosen, but I used to get the “so are you a golfer”? question quite often. Thankfully, that has now been replaced with, “so do you lift weights, or something?”
To me, BBing and golfing are similar (how many times in your life will you see those two endeavors compared?).
I don’t have to enter a tournament to be considered a golfer. All I need is a set of clubs a basic knowledge of the game, and enough money for green fees.
BBing is not much different. You can be a BBer without competing. I don’t know why one needs a cheap plastic trophy to validate the idea that he has made a choice to pursue hypertrophy.
But -
I would never call myself a BBer in public. Not yet.