Are You a Bodybuilder?

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
I dont think so, i just think its a shame when people are simply giving their opinions on something, someone like YOU has to post a comment like that.

Professor X wasn’t defining what a bodybuilder is because anyone needed him to do so, he was simply giving an opinion, on what turned out to be a debate. Thats how i take it.

If you don’t like it… well.

Joe[/quote]

I actually do think some people need it defined for them, especially lately. Bodybuilding is not “whatever you want it to be”. It is not “guy who works out like everybody else in the gym making little progress just like the obese woman on the treadmill who lifts pink dumbbells”. Results matter. The only people who would claim otherwise are those with little in the way of results.

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Fucking right results matter! I do everything i can think of to create them, i guess thats why i couldn’t admit to “wanting” to being a bodybuilder when i was younger as i was trying to get results but hadn’t accrued enough to show easily!

Has this forum gone down-hill lately or something? I am new here so this is all i know. I have noticed that there are a lot of novices here - i would have thought anyone with under 2 years experience would be in the beginners section…

I was just a bit pissed at Fulmen’s negative comments, i felt he was assuming your intentions but maybe he was right then… You were joining in still, and thats what this is about isn’t it? To talk and share shit?

Joe

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
Fucking right results matter! I do everything i can think of to create them, i guess thats why i couldn’t admit to “wanting” to being a bodybuilder when i was younger as i was trying to get results but hadn’t accrued enough to show easily!

Has this forum gone down-hill lately or something? I am new here so this is all i know. I have noticed that there are a lot of novices here - i would have thought anyone with under 2 years experience would be in the beginners section…

I was just a bit pissed at Fulmen’s negative comments, i felt he was assuming your intentions but maybe he was right then… You were joining in still, and thats what this is about isn’t it? To talk and share shit?

Joe[/quote]

First, your thoughts seem all over the place.

I agree, someone training for less than two years IS a beginner unless their progress has been absolutely phenomenal.

Yes, bodybuilding does need to be defined for some people, especially those who think “anyone who lifts weights” falls into that category. There are MILLIONS of people in gyms across the country right now. It is ridiculous to consider them ALL bodybuilders.

Most of them will look exactly the same or worse three years from now than they do right now. Obviously, as if it needed to be written, that ain’t bodybuilding.

“Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weight.”
~Ronnie Coleman

…and he is right.

Everyone lifting is not “bodybuilding” Every beginner is not a “bodybuilder”. Bodybuilding is not “back bridges for 3min”. It is not “bosu-ball training on one foot while curling 5lbs”.

All of that falls into “people who fill up gyms leading to them adding pizza night, free coffee on Tuesdays, and ‘judgment free zones’ complete with lunk alarms”.

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why do my thoughts seem all over the place? I don’t disagree with that statement!

You seem angry Mr. X… lmao!

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
why do my thoughts seem all over the place? I don’t disagree with that statement!

You seem angry Mr. X… lmao![/quote]

What in my post shows anger? Someone being direct with you is “anger”? Maybe I am reading you wrong, but you seem “overly defensive”. There, now we’ve both made judgments about the other’s emotions.

I assume you meant to write you “don’t agree” with that statement?

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
why do my thoughts seem all over the place? I don’t disagree with that statement!

You seem angry Mr. X… lmao![/quote]

Meet Professor X.

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Is he always like that then? A twat in general?

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A twat would probably be more apt to describe someone who has been a member for a fucking week, has 193 fucking posts, and proceeds to make judgements over shit he knows nothing about.

But I could be wrong.

Maybe you are not a general twat - just a newb twat.

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
Is he always like that then? A twat in general?[/quote]

LOL. So name calling is ignored by you (since you’re doing it) but speaking to you directly describes a “twat”?

The first insult was thrown by you just now. Don’t be surprised when it comes back on you.

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Ha! But anyway Prof. I agree… where did i give you the impression i dont agree? It takes a hell of alot more than just lifting weights regular to be a bodybuilder. I think i said that from the beginning…

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
A twat would probably be more apt to describe someone who has been a member for a fucking week, has 193 fucking posts, and proceeds to make judgements over shit he knows nothing about.

But I could be wrong.

Maybe you are not a general twat - just a newb twat. [/quote]

lol! Maybe…

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
Why? Don’t want to?[/quote]

I know I don’t have the drive to bodybuild. I have always been into strength, I have been a competing Powerlifter and, despite various injuries that is where my heart lies.
I am also interested in grip strength, but I’m not driven (yet) to specialise.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:and proceeds to make judgements over shit he knows nothing about.
[/quote]

And while there is loads i can learn and hope to from this forum, one of the things we all must learn is who are the wankers who are negative and nasty in their posts.

I like to give my opinion for the sake of learning, for myself and if i can teach another then that is great too. If it comes across to you as “making judgements on shit i know nothing about”, well… i have only been a member a week and got 160 posts so i can’t possibly know much.

Well spotted Rainjack, i have been busted!

Joe

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:

I like to give my opinion for the sake of learning[/quote]

What a backwards mentality. How many students here pay tuition to “give their opinion”?

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how childish, a mis-quote!

Well done, this thread is dead! See you again gentlemen!

Joe

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[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
how childish, a mis-quote!

Well done, this thread is dead! See you again gentlemen!

Joe[/quote]

A misquote? I quoted EXACTLY what you wrote. How old are you?

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It’s funny (not really). Maybe it’s like what Potter Stewart said about porn…

“I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [hard-core pornography]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.”

I can’t define what a bodybuilder is EXACTLY but I know it when I see it. I also know what ISN’T bodybuilding. I’d have to say with the exclusion of chins and dips then you’re just doing bodyweight exercises for thier own sake, your job or just for fun, NOT bodybuilding.

I have a hard time equating exercises without a barbell or dumbbells (or machines) with bodybuilding. I know a barbell or a dumbbell is merely a tool just as a machine exercise is a tool but I don’t see why things like holding a neck bridge with your arms crossed on your chest is a bodybuilding tool, nor is a Hindu Squat or a Divebomber pushup a bodybuilding tool. They are calisthenics… which just 'aint bodybuilding.

I do all those things from time to time myself but I’m not fooling myself into believing I’m bodybuilding when I do them.

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[quote]derek wrote:
It’s funny (not really). Maybe it’s like what Potter Stewart said about porn…

“I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [hard-core pornography]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.”

I can’t define what a bodybuilder is EXACTLY but I know it when I see it. I also know what ISN’T bodybuilding. I’d have to say with the exclusion of chins and dips then you’re just doing bodyweight exercises for thier own sake, your job or just for fun, NOT bodybuilding.

I have a hard time equating exercises without a barbell or dumbbells (or machines) with bodybuilding. I know a barbell or a dumbbell is merely a tool just as a machine exercise is a tool but I don’t see why things like holding a neck bridge with your arms crossed on your chest is a bodybuilding tool, nor is a Hindu Squat or a Divebomber pushup a bodybuilding tool. They are calisthenics… which just 'aint bodybuilding.

I do all those things from time to time myself but I’m not fooling myself into believing I’m bodybuilding when I do them.
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Good post.

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Im a middle aged guy in a college town.I go to the gym 5 days a week,take jui-jitsu 2 nights a week,and own a bar 7 days a week.

When im at the gym i consider myself a bodybuilder,at the dojo to myself im a member of the gracie family,and behind the bar,well Im a perv like TC.

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[quote]NY_Pitbull wrote:
Im a middle aged guy in a college town.[/quote]

You forgot to mention that you’re also a college student. And when you drive to work you’re a NASCAR driver and when you ate lunch today you were a competitive eater.

And I have two kids… So I’m making the stretch that I’m also a porn star. I mean I know I “did it” at least twice! (yes, the kids ARE mine)