[quote]rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
The softer/more pliable the plastic, the more likely xenoestrogens will be leached into your system. My understanding however is this only becomes a real concern when heating your food contained within the plastic. I wouldn’t worry about simply drinking water from a plastic bottle personally.
And this thinking is why the problem persists…
Proof, references, studies???
google it, you can do you’re own research, you’re a big boy…
…and on a side note, it’s “your” own research. You would use “you’re” in a context where you could substitute the phrase, “you are”. Just an fyi big boy.
Pardon me, Im a grammar nut myself and I dont know how I f*cked that up…and no, I dont recall the specific referances, and yes, I do use respectable resources such as the journal of nhi (which can be sourced through google’s search engine). [/quote]
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
The softer/more pliable the plastic, the more likely xenoestrogens will be leached into your system. My understanding however is this only becomes a real concern when heating your food contained within the plastic. I wouldn’t worry about simply drinking water from a plastic bottle personally.
And this thinking is why the problem persists…
Proof, references, studies???
google it, you can do you’re own research, you’re a big boy…
…and on a side note, it’s “your” own research. You would use “you’re” in a context where you could substitute the phrase, “you are”. Just an fyi big boy.
Pardon me, Im a grammar nut myself and I dont know how I f*cked that up…and no, I dont recall the specific referances, and yes, I do use respectable resources such as the journal of nhi (which can be sourced through google’s search engine).
Fair enough.[/quote]
Lol, good, because honestly, I hate arguing online. It just seems so pointless sometimes, especially when the other people just want to say dumb shit like “fuck you, ill kick your ass” or whatever.
And to add to the OP’s concern, I just go to the store every now and then and buy a bottle of sobe for a buck and use that as a water bottle (just dont drop it). I dont see why someone wouldn’t just “convert” to glass if its so simple and inexpensive to begin with…
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
rholdnr wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
The softer/more pliable the plastic, the more likely xenoestrogens will be leached into your system. My understanding however is this only becomes a real concern when heating your food contained within the plastic. I wouldn’t worry about simply drinking water from a plastic bottle personally.
And this thinking is why the problem persists…
Proof, references, studies???
google it, you can do you’re own research, you’re a big boy…
Well you think a lot of yourself don’t you.[/quote]
I doubt CT really cares. Every pic of him or anyone drinking anaconda have been out of fiji bottles. In one of the featured videos, there are what seem to be 10 boxes of fiji water bulk boxes.
I just thought I’d throw a little knowledge into this thread.
[quote]Not all plastics are dangerous and the wise consumer knows which are safe and which should be avoided. Some plastics do however release toxins harmful to the human body, especially when heated or reused.
First, look at the bottom of a disposable plastic water bottle. You will see a little triangle with the number 1 inside. This identifies the plastic as â??polyethylene terephthalateâ?? (PETE) which has been shown to be chemically stable if not exposed to excessive heat or reused. Therefore, it is okay to drink bottled water, but not to keep refilling the same container over and over again.
Containers with a number 4 contain the plastic as â??low density polyethyleneâ??, or LDPE. This is a more stable form of plastic…[/quote] Just as an FYI: â??high density polyethyleneâ??, or HDPE has a #4 is chemically similar to #2 as far as tensile strength and chemical resistance, but no plastic is perfect.
Glass, stainless steel, etc. Just to give an example, HDPE is stable at temps of 110C but even HDPE plastic will eventually wear out.
Call me paranoid, but I’m still staying away from plastics though 'cause I don’t have the time or energey to always worry about the numbers
Bulletprooftiger, thanks for adding facts to the thread.
There is a lot of misinformation and soundbytes out there that get taken out of context.
Here are some more facts: Most of the estrogen talk revolves around an additive called BPA, Bisphenol-A. It is a hardener that is in some plastics, most commonly PC, or polycarbonate. Polycarbonate was the water bottle of choice, not the kind you buy a 12 pack of, but the re-usable workout bottle.
Any of those larger mouth bottles that are usually colored, hard plastic and refillable were polycarbonate. If you look at them now, many are either PETE (recycle symbol #1) or they say BPA-free.
The talk about the regular clear 16 oz water bottles being used over and over is often concerning the cleanliness issues. It is really hard to properly sanitize a bottle like that since you can’t get a scrub brush or sponge in the narrow neck. It is recommended that you don’t keep refilling them over and over at the water cooler due to the cleanliness issues. Just use a cup or mug and wash it.
Be careful of the aluminum or stainless water bottles too. Make sure they don’t have an epoxy coating in them, kinda like a thin plastic lining, since that may have BPA in it. Look for one that says BPA-free. Most aluminum beer cans and soda cans and some vegetable cans have the lining in it.
Vegetables in cans that have a white lining are usually the BPA free kind. BPA has been controlled in Europe to be less than 600 part per Billion. Many of the ber and soda linings are in the range of 120 PP/Billion.
There are plastics that can be microwaved. The #5 PP and there is a type of #1 PET that is usually black, it is called C-PETE is OK. That is what you see most microwaveable meals and frozen side dishes in.
The issues are real, the body of evidence is large and growing but how much of an issue it is, is a tough call, we just don’t know. Too many factors at play and too little developed, focused research.
In my experience as far as health outcomes are concerned there’s many other things people can be looking at before these potential problems - even in those who already focus on their health.
Another interesting and worrying story doing the rounds in the media in the UK at the moment:
