[quote]celtics2022 wrote:
and a back rear bi, about 10 days ago so ive definetly lost weight since then and should be more cut now
i know that my left tricep is bigger and i figured out why and am going to handle that[/quote]
Well… Your shoulders are definitely your weakest part.
Those, and your back width really need to come up big time…
Ultimately though, it’s your entire upper body which is lagging (severely)… It looks like you’ve been training it for only two or three months while your quads just look three times as good as the other muscle-groups on you.
Were you following starting strength or some other 5x5 routine? Kind of looks that way.
Fortunately, it shouldn’t be that difficult to bring your upper body up to snuff, so no worries…
[quote]rasturai wrote:
I can understand directly hitting the side and rear delts but front delts?
If benching, (flat + incline), and military press and other db presses overhead…would that or would that not be enough front work? Or would it be wise to do a drop set type of thing after a main exercise (like front raises?)
Thanks[/quote]
Never needed any front delt work myself, but if, despite getting strong on some overhead press variation etc they are still a weak area for you, well… Go for it!
Powerlifters like Matt K do plate raises etc for the front delts too…
[quote]celtics2022 wrote:
and a back rear bi, about 10 days ago so ive definetly lost weight since then and should be more cut now
i know that my left tricep is bigger and i figured out why and am going to handle that[/quote]
Well… Your shoulders are definitely your weakest part.
Those, and your back width really need to come up big time…
Ultimately though, it’s your entire upper body which is lagging (severely)… It looks like you’ve been training it for only two or three months while your quads just look three times as good as the other muscle-groups on you.
Were you following starting strength or some other 5x5 routine? Kind of looks that way.
Fortunately, it shouldn’t be that difficult to bring your upper body up to snuff, so no worries…
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well…I havent done any squats since May of 2009. But, I used to ONLY train legs back in senior year of high school and my first year of college. I did 300x8 squat at my best and I think I did 450x12 leg press every other day. This was in 2005-2006. I couldnt even bench 135 then. I stopped all training until January 2009 when again I started only doing squats and pullups from January until May, got up to 280 for 5x5
then I started doing other stuff in June, benching, curling, shrugging, etc
300x8 doesn’t seem like too much for someone worried about having enormous quads. My quads are a bit over 26" and I think they look tiny, although I do have better hamstrings than quads…
[quote]TheBigV wrote:
300x8 doesn’t seem like too much for someone worried about having enormous quads. My quads are a bit over 26" and I think they look tiny, although I do have better hamstrings than quads…[/quote]
The numbers don’t really matter… The pictures definitely show that his quads are way ahead of the rest of him.
Of course 25 inches at average height isn’t really a lot, but when you’re that much out of proportion, one can’t just train the whole body equally and expect things to change… You’ll just end up 50 lbs heavier and with the same shitty proportions, which is why I’m asking about his routine…
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Why don’t you post your current routine in here so we can have a look…
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I do full body every other day and its what has brought my lifts and measurements up. I do everything in supersets but dont do squats or deadlifts anymore and havent done them for months
I superset incline bench and t-bar row. These are my main lifts. I want to both get to 405. I ask people to spot me. Since I train every other day one day I do 4x4 and the next day 4x8-12
I do that in the first weight room then when I have done 4 working sets I go to the other weight room and do the lifts that I dont care about numbers. Practically nobody comes to this second room so I set up everything and go through it in a circuit
currently these are
neck curl - flexion
neck extension with the harness
behind the back shrug in the power cage
ez-bar curl
tricep pushdown
to go through the circuit once takes about 3 minutes. I do it 4 times.
the other days I do freestyle swimming for 1 hour. So I am at the gym 7 days a week.
I used to do some of the Stronglifts routine when i first started. The most I ever OHP’d was 150 for 1 rep. That was in June.
Like everyone else is saying, your legs are ok, and the rest of you is severely lagging. 300x8 isn’t BAD, but it’s nothing fucking amazing either.
I’m gonna suggest you just place significantly more emphasis on upper body training, while still working on lower body strength. No such things as legs that are too big and strong, and that’s a fuckin’ fact.
Just be glad you’re this way, not the other way around. IMHO this is easier to fix, since you already have a good idea of what training intensity (legs) is.
Coming from a 5’2 girl who powerlifts and is working towards a figure competition… my thighs are 23" at their widest point. I agree with a lot of your responders- never ever think a part of your body is “too big” for another part of your body. Look at Dexter Jackson… I’m sure he never asked if his lat spread was too large for his hip circumference. He just kept up with the mid- and low-body training.
I will say that your legs look great. You’ve got to bring more total weight into your upper body training. Generally, a man’s back will put on mass before any other area, and the mass you gain there will make your upper body appear larger on stage, but you have got to work on your chest and shoulders.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You’ve made some good progress man, and congrats on posting like a normal person and taking the ball busting in stride.
Good shit[/quote]
He was a jackass when he first posted here.
But I agree…he is probably carrying more muscle than some of the people making negative comments at this point who have been here for years…which is sad.
But I agree…he is probably carrying more muscle than some of the people making negative comments at this point who have been here for years…which is sad.[/quote]
Some people don’t like challenging themselves…and apparently they increase exponentially as time passes.
I have to agree, got a sick feeling some of the peanut gallery couldn’t squat 300x8. Sad shit.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You’ve made some good progress man, and congrats on posting like a normal person and taking the ball busting in stride.
Good shit[/quote]
He was a jackass when he first posted here.
But I agree…he is probably carrying more muscle than some of the people making negative comments at this point who have been here for years…which is sad.[/quote]
Exactly - as I said in one of his other threads, this kid looks pretty decent. All the criticisms are spot on - more chest, shoulders (especially medial delts) and back - quads looks solid. Need more hamstring pop as well…
But, overall he looks like a guy who lifts weights, and you can see he made good progress.
But the fact that he came on here with such a shitty attitude at first means he’s going to get his share of flames, because let’s face it - first impressions mean a lot…
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Like everyone else is saying, your legs are ok, and the rest of you is severely lagging. 300x8 isn’t BAD, but it’s nothing fucking amazing either.
I’m gonna suggest you just place significantly more emphasis on upper body training, while still working on lower body strength. No such things as legs that are too big and strong, and that’s a fuckin’ fact.
Just be glad you’re this way, not the other way around. IMHO this is easier to fix, since you already have a good idea of what training intensity (legs) is. [/quote]
The OP is sure getting hit with a lot of jealousy. C’mon guys, you KNOW he’s bigger than all of you.
The workouts you’ve described “I started only doing squats and pullups from January until May, got up to 280 for 5x5”
Seems designed to induce massive imbalances… Only pushing for lower and pulling upper… IMHO recipe for injury…
What are your goals?
Hard work is relative. I’ve been pushing myself to edge of recovery for quite a while now, but I don’t work anywhere near as hard as most of the accomplished on this board, not even same planet, let alone ballpark…
Hard work includes diet and sleep hygiene and stress management.
Why stop squatting and deadlifting? Just do some low rep, low volume squats and deads with a lot of weight. This will probably make you stronger or help you maintain strength, but not make those legs much bigger. I don’t know if they really increase testosterone measurably, but it sure feels like they do.
EDIT: Some dudes found an increase in testosterone levels in saliva after squatting 101075% of one’s max. (Weird untrained guys) Nice.
[quote]kakno wrote:
Why stop squatting and deadlifting? Just do some low rep, low volume squats and deads with a lot of weight. This will probably make you stronger or help you maintain strength, but not make those legs much bigger. I don’t know if they really increase testosterone measurably, but it sure feels like they do.
EDIT: Some dudes found an increase in testosterone levels in saliva after squatting 101075% of one’s max. (Weird untrained guys) Nice.
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Why the hell would someone with 25" quads be on a bodybuilding forum trying to avoid making his legs bigger?
This is not some advanced weight lifter here so why tell him to try to avoid gaining more size there? He needs more size all over. He just needs to quit the full body bullshit