Indeed because I have tried to pull 500 at my bodyweight for years and never managed. Well I never trained pure PL either
The point of my thought exercise, which I think is fun to apply to any strength/physique/performance goal, is to imagine what one could achieve if your entire life was spent in preparation for meeting a certain standard or set of standards? Imagine we all had ample resources to achieve this. Good gyms and good food are easily available. We all have time to eat and train well, if we so choose.
Just remember. You need to pull 600 and get your natty pro card before your 25th birthday or we’re going to have to chop your head off. Many others have done it, you can too. Welcome to preschool.
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I mean almost everyone could achieve greatness then. That’s certainly what makes it. These people have the motication to do everything right, work hard, sacrifice, for years
Certainly incentives work on people. I would argue your incentive would be extremely effective if enforced.
People do crazy commutes and work long hours at terrible jobs for incentives far less than your incentive.
These are the weeds you need to get into if you want to consider whether something is “possible” for the average person when the average person doesn’t do the things that make a particular feat possible.
That’s why I’ll agree that a 600lb deadlift or any respectable physique goal is highly improbable for your average male today.
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I think most under your conditions most would do it. I’m close to your requirement, and if under your conditions I would consider myself totally half assing it. You could easily claim I have no desire to live based on my efforts.
The way things are, being in the top 5 percent of the population as far as fitness goes is pretty easy. Being in the top 5 percent of workers in an office setting is a much harder goal.
“My point was that one cannot have muscles as big as a bodybuilder WITHOUT being strong.”
This is completely false.
Let’s keep it at 900, no need for the press to be strict in this case.
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Strong is relative. The fact the BBers have done well in strength sports is contradicting the claim. Yes, on average they are not going to be competing with the wsm guys on strength in most cases. Except Manfred Hoeberl who came in second at a wsm competition, IIRC. Also had the claim of the biggest arms (most likely one of the first synthol users).
You can count me as a natural lifter that can. And I am honestly not that big. I am big for 5’9, but barely over 200lbs. Get more weight on someone and it can really change.
On that topic, an interesting x-factor is that, as part of their training, the boys were routinely undersea. It taught them how to live with hunger and get sneaky enough to steal food without getting caught. Great for being tough and brutal soldiers, but less than ideal for getting jacked. An interesting thing to ponder.
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That is pretty good IMO. I think I’ll get there, but I’m about 120 lbs short right now.
What’s your deadlift and strict press at?
The highest I have strict pressed was 265lbs with an axle as part of some joker sets after a PR set
I pulled a 650lb dead before rupturing my ACL and 635 after. The 635 was quite a while ago. I can most likely manage more, but don’t tend to max that specific lift often.
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I know it’s embarrassing, but I haven’t had any overhead pressing other than z press for over a year.
Some practice and that lift might go up.
I was really willing that last effort up. Even after I’d read the title of the video.
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I’m almost positive I could not strict-press 276# either.
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The secret is to never try and leave the mystery alive.
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What is your bench? (Or incline or floor press or whatever strongmen do)
I wanna see if the correlation applies. Because this is a MASSIVE press
That’s a strong press for a bodybuilder. What is are the tunes playing on your last two attempts? I especially love the last second of this vid, btw.
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I haven’t maxed bench in forever. I was benching 300 for sets of 10 recently. When I bench, its with a pretty flat back and flat feet, since that style carries over to my press. If I were to actually focus on benching more, I could get a little more out of me.
Thanks man. The very last attempt is Nine Inch Nails “Burning Bright”
The other one was “Non Entity”
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