Ok I was checking in Grneyes log and I saw this one, I don’t usually come over to the log section but I’ll be checking this one here for sure.
Hey thanks Trav! 
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
speaking of glutes, a really good one and personal fave of mine are single leg straight leg dl’s…requires a lot of balance but gets you right in the KISSER!
go ahead and stand up right now and do about 10 without any weight and tell me you don’t feel it 
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One legged glute stuff is awesome…except when I am fighting so hard for balance that I can’t do the exercise correctly. Sadly, that is where I still am with these.
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I get so irritated with the ‘popular,’ trainer there…she has her own flock, I swear…she’s always busy…but the shit she has people doing drives me NUTS!! Like one of her signature moves is to have people stand on there toes,with there elbows pinned to there sides doing the half top of a bicep curl…it looks so WEIRD!!!
Anyway…I guess we all have different ways of doing things…maybe her way is to drive people into the ground so they feel like they are doing something…or if the move is hard enough, it makes them feel like they need her? There is no way these people would work out with the same intensity without her there…and I NEVER see them working out alone…[/quote]
It sounds to me like she’s the type of trainer that has their clients do things that feel hard, but are actually really ineffective. That way, they feel like they’re getting a good workout, but they never see good results, or learn the proper way to train on their own. So they always feel like they need her to get a “good” workout.
I just went and looked at your pics bc you mentioned them in my log. Holy hell you’ve made a lot of progress. What did you weigh in the thickest pics? And where are you now?
[quote]RBlue wrote:
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I get so irritated with the ‘popular,’ trainer there…she has her own flock, I swear…she’s always busy…but the shit she has people doing drives me NUTS!! Like one of her signature moves is to have people stand on there toes,with there elbows pinned to there sides doing the half top of a bicep curl…it looks so WEIRD!!!
Anyway…I guess we all have different ways of doing things…maybe her way is to drive people into the ground so they feel like they are doing something…or if the move is hard enough, it makes them feel like they need her? There is no way these people would work out with the same intensity without her there…and I NEVER see them working out alone…[/quote]
It sounds to me like she’s the type of trainer that has their clients do things that feel hard, but are actually really ineffective. That way, they feel like they’re getting a good workout, but they never see good results, or learn the proper way to train on their own. So they always feel like they need her to get a “good” workout.
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Oh and about this ^ Many trainers will have their clients do what we would call goofy combo moves because it makes them look useful. If you just tell someone to pick shit up, pull shit and push shit day in and day out they’ll figure out how to do it on their own pretty quick.
Also, there’s some substance to making a client “feel” something - not always for the trainer - but because clients have goals, they have things that are important to them and it’s important for them to feel like they’re doing something about it. Most females love having sore abs or a sore butt. I could write an entire program that would never make them sore (i.e. an athlete’s program) but that isn’t what they want. They WANT to be sore because it makes them feel like they’re doing something. It’s an instant reward in a way. So I may write in an exercise I know will make them sore, not to be an asshole or drive them into the ground or make them feel like they need me but because they want that feeling for themselves. It makes them feel good and in the end that’s my job - to make the clients feel good about themselves. Men are the same way with chest and bicep soreness - they love it!
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Grn- ya, I wonder what life would be like if I actually had a typical 9-5 job or something like that.when will you get a set schedule? That would drive me nuts![/quote]
Hopefully this week…Of course I work 6 days this week…so I will be very tired!
[quote]rcfromdb wrote:
[quote]RBlue wrote:
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I get so irritated with the ‘popular,’ trainer there…she has her own flock, I swear…she’s always busy…but the shit she has people doing drives me NUTS!! Like one of her signature moves is to have people stand on there toes,with there elbows pinned to there sides doing the half top of a bicep curl…it looks so WEIRD!!!
Anyway…I guess we all have different ways of doing things…maybe her way is to drive people into the ground so they feel like they are doing something…or if the move is hard enough, it makes them feel like they need her? There is no way these people would work out with the same intensity without her there…and I NEVER see them working out alone…[/quote]
It sounds to me like she’s the type of trainer that has their clients do things that feel hard, but are actually really ineffective. That way, they feel like they’re getting a good workout, but they never see good results, or learn the proper way to train on their own. So they always feel like they need her to get a “good” workout.
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Oh and about this ^ Many trainers will have their clients do what we would call goofy combo moves because it makes them look useful. If you just tell someone to pick shit up, pull shit and push shit day in and day out they’ll figure out how to do it on their own pretty quick.
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Yeah, I had a trainer at Crunch, which is now closed, and she made me stand on a bosu balance ball and do curls with a bar, telling me it would work my abs b/c I had to concentrate to keep my balance. She didn’t like having her clients to the “normal” things.
What Bobbi said makes sense and pretty much echoes everything I’ve been told by trainer friends.
I will say though, all the trainers I know, most of who have trained me in some capacity (not a sexual reference) do have varying styles. Like some are straight strength guys, others love circuit type training, etc. So you shouldn’t worry, you’ll get your legion too.
Anyways, MIM, glad to hear your still hashing out your training plans.
Thanks…you all pretty much summed up my thoughts about said trainer…I believe you can have people do things that are challenging, will get them results AND are USEFUL…I will not bow down to the bosu ball!! Heck, I don’t even know how to use it myself! Besides that, the work they do outside of the gym is more important anyway… you can bust your ass in the gym all you want, but if your gonna go eat junk when you get home, then all that work doesn’t mean a thing…I make sure to tell people that…they may not like it though!
Bobbi- the pics where I was heaviest I was about 217…(Jan of 2009 I was 230+) Right now I am somewhere between 171-175. I haven’t weighed myself in a few weeks! My final goal weight is 155-160ish…but we’ll see when I get there
I guess I didn’t realize that some of you were trainers. I’ve thought about getting certified. But when I see what most trainers have to put up with (whining clients who aren’t willing to work hard in the gym and then sabotage their efforts with all the wrong foods), it turns my stomach. I think I would just end up frustrated.
And that giggly helpless attitude that so many women cop with male trainers . . . ugh. What most people don’t realize is that there’s such sweetness in the pain of pushing oneself outside of the comfort zone.
…I always knew I wanted to work in the health field(thought I was going to be a nurse) and as I’ve struggled with my weight for years, I thought what better job than to help and motivate others than to be a personal trainer? Not to mention its a good incentive for keeping in shape…
Long story short, it sounded better in my head…I’m grateful for getting the chance and I’m for each client I get, even if it is just one at a time, but at this point I can’t see making a career out of it unfortunately…
For many reasons that you stated K. and for the mere fact it’s all about sales…some are good at selling the big packages, but I’m not…
They need to learn how do this themselves so they keep coming back! Which is why I stick to the basics in the first couple sessions so at least they have a foundation to work off of…no bosu bicep curls from this girl!
I agree completely Snap - despite the fact that I love training and fitness more generally, I’d be a terrible trainer. Patience is not one of my strongest suit and I also happen to be really bad at teaching people things.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
And that giggly helpless attitude that so many women cop with male trainers . . . ugh. What most people don’t realize is that there’s such sweetness in the pain of pushing oneself outside of the comfort zone.[/quote]
This, however, I find super interesting because (and I’m sure I’ll get flamed for this) there is something to say about coed training. I don’t think its so much about being helpless as much as it is about gender roles and things like that - not to mention sexual tension. I still get giggly when I have to train with males because I feel like they perceive me in a different way, perhaps even more sexualized because of the strength, determination, etc. that I might exude during weight lifting. I don’t know - i’m a fucking weirdo and i’m ranting.
Anyways as for the latter part - this is also super interesting to me because women aren’t ever really taught about the ‘strain’ when growing up. So most women don’t even know this is a possibility! Thankfully we have role models like you ladies, and trainers like MIM to teach us Yay!
Imma tryin!
Actually, I’m doing my final paper(yep, I’m graduating!!) on attracting younger girls(high school level) to strength sports. Giving them more options!! I know I would have joined a power lifting club if it were at my high school!
I think too many girls still sit on the sidelines watching boys slam dunk or sprint toward the finish line. As spectators they miss the chance to develop skills that will help them succeed and habits that can keep them healthy. If a sport such as power lifting was offered in high schools, specifically for females, it would give them great exposure of how to use there bodies in more productive ways than just being â??the pretty and thin,â?? girl. (and ya, I copied that from my paper, teehee)
I would so be a coach!!
I’m fine with coed training and it’s actually possible to do it without sexual tension (at least, as far as I noticed. But I miss a lot.) But at first I was so freaked out and apologetic because I really didn’t feel I deserved to be there – I was, and am, not as good as the guys. The giggly shit is irritating, though, because it’s evasive; it’s like having a free excuse because you’re a girl. You don’t have to rely on that crutch.
It’s funny, a friend of mine mentioned wanting to be a personal trainer on the side and I just laughed at the thought of him getting paid to go to the gym and yelling “Light weight buddy!” That’s what he does anyway! It would be fun… but when i think about it seriously there’s a knowledge base that I just don’t have, even though I do love teaching.
…my lack of knowledge comes from the fact you have to talk people into changing all the while convincing them that they NEED YOU! its tough…
But if you have to confidence people will see that…plus, I have real world experience with what it takes to ‘change.’ No one had to talk me into though…
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
What most people don’t realize is that there’s such sweetness in the pain of pushing oneself outside of the comfort zone.[/quote]
This. It’s almost like doing something forbidden. And it’s fun to learn new stuff. I love to learn new stuff, so I am very excited. Besides, with this awesome group of ladies who know what they are doing and are always positive (besides Claire, who gives awesome e-bitch slaps to get you motivated) and give good constructive criticism and advice, it’s hard to NOT be excited to try something new.
Hi, Claire!
Actually, Maschy, I don’t think you’re off base. I think you’re speaking quite honestly. And I’ve experienced it myself. Enuf said.
pretty good training…chest / back+bis
x-rows
internal rotations
(warm up)
Bench-
barx12 65x12 85x10 95x8
incline db bench
30x12 35x10 40sx8
one arm db bench
3x10x30
db flies-
3x10x20
pec dec-
3x10x100
other junk
face pulls
low rows
push ups
inverted rows
abs
Took about an hour, so I was haulin’
Looking forward to next week and starting fresh…and NO MORE SCHOOL!!! woot!
A regular at the gym told me I was looking ‘skinny.’ WHAAAAT?! MEEEE? Guess it’s better than being told I’m looking chubby…