I haven’t seen any huge guy doing that, I don’t wanna look like the guy in the video. When I see a Mr. Olympia or somewhat similar I may think trying it because if they bothered it means something. But even trying it my body structure may be different so I may throw it away. It’s really simple, I don’t see big guys doing that shit, they normally stick to the basics or modify exercises in function of what really works for them.
I agree with the above since I just watched the video. Still absolutely hate the bickering and if the OP wants to do this, more power to him.
fuck me, this forum doesnt half do my head in. it was just a QUESTION. i didnt say i wanted to be huge either, not every body wants to be the size of ronnie coleman. and like TacticalEcto i dont want to go into competition. i havent seen the exercise before so i was just asking about it.
this website is full of useful information, infact its one of my favourite sources, but as far as the forum goes…its just head work. you ask about something and you dont even get the answer, just a load of abuse because your less experienced. maybe it was a crappy post, but try and be a bit more helpful to us newer lifters.
TacticalEcto, if you do decide to do this exercise pm me and let me know if it worked for you a few months down the line.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Still absolutely hate the bickering and if the OP wants to do this, more power to him.[/quote]
No one is stopping anyone from doing anything man. But when someone asks “hey, should I row across the ocean with a spoon?” they are going to catch some shit for it.
I get the point you’re trying to make, but I feel like the OP wasn’t even reasonable, and if he is so inexperienced that he has to ask what was asked, he should be posting these questions in the beginners section where people won’t jump on his shit.
I feel like you getting mad about some flaming in what is probably a troll thread anyway is you acting on some issues you have with other threads at this point. The first post can’t NOT be a troll post.
[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
[quote]actionboy wrote:
since X hasnt popped up yet, ill let you know he is a dental surgeon and has been studying anatomy since you were shitting in diapers. [/quote]
I never said he wasn’t. but the truth of the matter is that when that exercise is done like in the video, it hits the trap, and misses the focus of the delt. [/quote]
“Mr. Professor, how familiar are you with the anatomy of the back? And specifically the trapezius, because I get this vibe your not actually an anatomy major who would be fit to make such a matter of fact answer”
Your full of shit
[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
YOUR 165 FUCKING LBS @ 5’11" and NOT IN CONTEST SHAPE.
You don’t know wtf you are talking about, sorry.[/quote]
WHO THE FUCK SAID I WAS GOING INTO CONTEST SHAPE? Im not a competing bodybuilder, Im a bodybuilder by definition not occupation… im not heading for a stage…
Bodybuilding is a form of body modification involving intensive muscle hypertrophy; an individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder[/quote]
So anyone who ever tries to beat a PR is a powerlifter? and anyone who runs is a track athlete?
dude
I thought the traps grew from pulling vertically?
I need a hug but I am alone…pity is my only friend and I do not trust her.
Seriously though, who gives a fuck? Everyone learns eventually…
[quote]Shadrack wrote:
fuck me, this forum doesnt half do my head in. it was just a QUESTION. i didnt say i wanted to be huge either, not every body wants to be the size of ronnie coleman. and like TacticalEcto i dont want to go into competition. i havent seen the exercise before so i was just asking about it.
this website is full of useful information, infact its one of my favourite sources, but as far as the forum goes…its just head work. you ask about something and you dont even get the answer, just a load of abuse because your less experienced. maybe it was a crappy post, but try and be a bit more helpful to us newer lifters.
TacticalEcto, if you do decide to do this exercise pm me and let me know if it worked for you a few months down the line.[/quote]
you’ll be more in touch with the real environment of the site and get the help you want… if you really want this.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I agree with the above since I just watched the video. Still absolutely hate the bickering and if the OP wants to do this, more power to him.[/quote]
Holy crap, so you didn’t even watch the video before reprimanding everyone else?
I mean…AGAIN? Is this a new habit with you, not reading shit but voicing your ever growing opinion anyway?
Why would someone recommend to a relative beginner that they NOT use the most effective methods and choose instead do some random variation just for the sake of doing something else?
Further, why do you think the rest of us can’t be responding logically based on all of the info we are looking at when you are jumping in with only half the information and making definitive conclusions about everyone involved?
OP, go do this exercise and see how your body responds.
The douche in the video is small by T-Nation standards and he doesn’t have an impressive muscle group anywhere on his body.
If it were me I listen to guys who have made big traps. Just like I listen to successful real estate investors, entrepreneurs, and businessmen.
Does that make sense? I mean it’s not like these big guys on here were just born that way.
I wish I could slap people right through their computer screen.
[quote]Shadrack wrote:
fuck me, this forum doesnt half do my head in. it was just a QUESTION. i didnt say i wanted to be huge either, not every body wants to be the size of ronnie coleman. and like TacticalEcto i dont want to go into competition. i havent seen the exercise before so i was just asking about it.
this website is full of useful information, infact its one of my favourite sources, but as far as the forum goes…its just head work. you ask about something and you dont even get the answer, just a load of abuse because your less experienced. maybe it was a crappy post, but try and be a bit more helpful to us newer lifters.
TacticalEcto, if you do decide to do this exercise pm me and let me know if it worked for you a few months down the line.[/quote]
So advice to do shrugs for traps instead of doing bent over laterals (which, um, is for rear delts) isnt useful or helpful?
He’s dead wrong.
The best trap builder is holding onto the handles really hard when you do leg extensions.
No, just no.
Trap bar shrugs ftw!
Picking up a curling bar from the squat rack jacks my traps up. Shrugs? I don’t need no stinkin’ shrugs.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
He’s dead wrong.
The best trap builder is holding onto the handles really hard when you do leg extensions.[/quote]
Dude, I’m pretty sure the knees are NOT meant to handle the kid of sick weight you can use on the leg extension. We’re talking about safety here.
[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
I never said he wasn’t. but the truth of the matter is that when that exercise is done like in the video, it hits the trap, and misses the focus of the delt. [/quote]
The traps are a very large and strong muscle group. IMO shrugs start at 2x bodyweight and anything less is a warm-up. Good lifters work in the 3x range. A 165 lifter should be shrugging at least 330lbs. If it takes 6-8 reps. at 330lbs. to fatigue the traps what makes you think you are going to challange the them with the 25lb. bells…NOT HAPPENING! Everything FAILS before the traps in that movement…EVERYTHING. Otherwise you would be doing sets of 100 with the 25lb. bells. Pretty simple really.
Additionally; and this is directed toward all the New Blood out there…what makes you think that those of us that have been at this for ten or twenty years haven’t tried anything and everything at some point? Do you really think you are the first one with heart and a brain? Perhaps that some new exercise has been discovered or you have stumbled upon something the rest of us have missed? Despite what you might read from people trying to sell you something; people get big and strong the same way they have since before any of us were born.
… look kinda like this?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
He’s dead wrong.
The best trap builder is holding onto the handles really hard when you do leg extensions.[/quote]
Dont give him wrong information man thats obviously a chest exercise…