Anyone Tried this Trap Exercise?

[quote]trav123456 wrote:
That guys is the goofiest mfer ever.

I’m waiting for one of these alternate exercise threads to actually be something somewhat useful, but then I realize that one day I’m going to die and don’t need to be wasting my time on anything but the basics really.

Like are you really going to depend on this exercise to demolish your traps every session? Really?[/quote]

Agree to agree on all points

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
Im a cynical individual. What can i tell you. Im waiting for the Proph’s answer on this one.
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Dude, you are 165 fucking pounds at 5’11", the only thing you should be waiting for is the next time you can shove 1,200 cals in your mouth.

God damn I hope you’re trolling.

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Nah I think it’s a troll, recommending Scooby is what tipped me off. That guys is the goofiest mfer ever.

I’m waiting for one of these alternate exercise threads to actually be something somewhat useful, but then I realize that one day I’m going to die and don’t need to be wasting my time on anything but the basics really.

Like are you really going to depend on this exercise to demolish your traps every session? Really?[/quote]

Whats a troll? And hell yeah i may be goofy, but while you stick to the basics and keep your mind closed to mixing things up, ill do what i see will work best. Cant wait to prove my logic with my physique here in the next six months too.

AND to your last statement i say hell no i wont. ill use dumbbell shrugs and vertical rows too. But ill tell you nobody is too advanced to have a closed mind to valid exercises.

Dude ill be having this account for a while as a source of advice from time to time. But wether its a truck, gun, knife, off-road, racing or Bodybuilding forum, there is always a few guys who plague the place with downer comments on all things that may contradict a belief of their own without even giving it a shot. leave the question if you dont share the same interest on the subject or know for fact about it.

When done right i can surely feel my trap tightening up like a shrug in this movement without any weight, and when I can get back to lifting after the stitches come out of my palm Ill see how this goes.

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

YOUR 165 FUCKING LBS @ 5’11" and NOT IN CONTEST SHAPE.

You don’t know wtf you are talking about, sorry.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]trav123456 wrote:
That guys is the goofiest mfer ever.

I’m waiting for one of these alternate exercise threads to actually be something somewhat useful, but then I realize that one day I’m going to die and don’t need to be wasting my time on anything but the basics really.

Like are you really going to depend on this exercise to demolish your traps every session? Really?[/quote]

Agree to agree on all points

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
Im a cynical individual. What can i tell you. Im waiting for the Proph’s answer on this one.
[/quote]

Dude, you are 165 fucking pounds at 5’11", the only thing you should be waiting for is the next time you can shove 1,200 cals in your mouth.

God damn I hope you’re trolling.[/quote]

I started lifting for muscle gain six months ago, Yes im 165 at the moment. But Do you want to take a dive into my diet and training schedule these days? Would you like to know that six months ago I weighed in at 143? Would you like to watch how i get another 10 LEAN pounds of muscle by say may? Send me a PM if you guys really wanna check my facts… Im not a typical 5 11 165 17 year old weightlifter dudes…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

YOUR 165 FUCKING LBS @ 5’11" and NOT IN CONTEST SHAPE.

You don’t know wtf you are talking about, sorry.[/quote]
WHO THE FUCK SAID I WAS GOING INTO CONTEST SHAPE? Im not a competing bodybuilder, Im a bodybuilder by definition not occupation… im not heading for a stage…

Bodybuilding is a form of body modification involving intensive muscle hypertrophy; an individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]trav123456 wrote:
That guys is the goofiest mfer ever.

I’m waiting for one of these alternate exercise threads to actually be something somewhat useful, but then I realize that one day I’m going to die and don’t need to be wasting my time on anything but the basics really.

Like are you really going to depend on this exercise to demolish your traps every session? Really?[/quote]

Agree to agree on all points

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
Im a cynical individual. What can i tell you. Im waiting for the Proph’s answer on this one.
[/quote]

Dude, you are 165 fucking pounds at 5’11", the only thing you should be waiting for is the next time you can shove 1,200 cals in your mouth.

God damn I hope you’re trolling.[/quote]

I started lifting for muscle gain six months ago, Yes im 165 at the moment. But Do you want to take a dive into my diet and training schedule these days? Would you like to know that six months ago I weighed in at 143? Would you like to watch how i get another 10 LEAN pounds of muscle by say may? Send me a PM if you guys really wanna check my facts… Im not a typical 5 11 165 17 year old weightlifter dudes…
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At the risk of feeding a troll, that’s really not that special. As a newb to lifting, you can make lots and lots of screw up in diet, training, and recovery and still make great progress. When you’ve got at least a couple years of serious lifting under your belt, and you’re still making that kind of progress, then, you will genuinely pique my interest.

Right now, you’re just another lifting newb who doesn’t know what he’s doing (nothing wrong with being new to lifting)… except you don’t seem to realize that… (or you’re a troll).

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
I started lifting for muscle gain six months ago,[/quote]

But you feel the need to be arguing with people that have lifted for a decade and give advice to others?

Fuck no. I can tell that you are doing some over complicated bullshit you got from some jackass on the internet when you should be raping linear progression for all it’s worth and pounding steaks, milk and pasta paid for by your mom.

But no. I’m sure your doing something infinitely dumb instead.

So no, I have no desire to hear about your amazing newb gains.

I woudl hope you can gain 20 lbs in your first year of lifting, otherwise you fail hard.

[quote] Im not a typical 5 11 165 17 year old weightlifter dudes…
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If your not trolling me, yes you are, lol.

No one who’s been training for 6 months should be handing out advice, period. Keep lifting and try shit out, but don’t think you know any better than guys who have been at it for years.

This lift is pretty much unloadable, and it’s a fucking lateral raise! Laterals are for delts! Too many better options than this exercise for traps for anyone to waste their time on it, end of story.

Fucking epic. The upper traps elevate the scapula. As far as I can tell, he’s doing that inefficiently and with a substantially lower load than can be accomodated with shrugs. So why not do shrugs? Unless of course you’re the kind of pussy who believes that “the back isn’t built to handle 400 pounds.”

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

YOUR 165 FUCKING LBS @ 5’11" and NOT IN CONTEST SHAPE.

You don’t know wtf you are talking about, sorry.[/quote]
WHO THE FUCK SAID I WAS GOING INTO CONTEST SHAPE? Im not a competing bodybuilder, Im a bodybuilder by definition not occupation… im not heading for a stage…

Bodybuilding is a form of body modification involving intensive muscle hypertrophy; an individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder[/quote]

Bodybuilders dont use shoulder movements to build their traps. As soon as you mentioned that website I could tell you were a vagina:)

Haha, You must think I think this exercise a whole bunch, I got into it solely to see what this guy with 37,000 posts would say back. Honestly I think that about every so often your going to have to mix things up in the routine for a muscle whether that be set/rep change, rest strategy, or just a whole new movement and id say that once every four trap isolation workouts, slipping this in there wouldnt be a bad idea if i could get the form down on it. But shit This all started as me saying give the mother fucker a chance. And to the guy saying that the trap is the upward rotation of the scapula, I say exactly, preform this exercise (the one in the video below) without weight infront of your mirror and see if you cant get a feeling up in those traps as you flex and squeeze those bastards up top. driving the shoulders like you want them at your ears. and i found this video to be much more tolerable to watch.

I believe when you roll out the trap like he said you elongate the muscle and put it in a pretty good spot to get a lengthy stretch out of it…

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On the note of my own stats i dont expect you to be impressed. Over time I might post up a progress picture to prove my progress is less than typical. just keep on dogging me down because thats just more motivation. (and motivation i already have plenty)

I like this site. im really not usually such a terd, im just on some Prescribed hydrocodones at the moment so im a bit out of it.

Rule #1- Listen to those Bigger than you. GG

since X hasnt popped up yet, ill let you know he is a dental surgeon and has been studying anatomy since you were shitting in diapers.

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

YOUR 165 FUCKING LBS @ 5’11" and NOT IN CONTEST SHAPE.

You don’t know wtf you are talking about, sorry.[/quote]
WHO THE FUCK SAID I WAS GOING INTO CONTEST SHAPE? Im not a competing bodybuilder, Im a bodybuilder by definition not occupation… im not heading for a stage…

Bodybuilding is a form of body modification involving intensive muscle hypertrophy; an individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder[/quote]

Bodybuilders dont use shoulder movements to build their traps. As soon as you mentioned that website I could tell you were a vagina:)[/quote]

Im not offended, the dudes a nut… but what dont you get about scooby here. What make his information invalid?

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
Haha, You must think I think this exercise a whole bunch, I got into it solely to see what this guy with 37,000 posts would say back. Honestly I think that about every so often your going to have to mix things up in the routine for a muscle whether that be set/rep change, rest strategy, or just a whole new movement and id say that once every four trap isolation workouts, slipping this in there wouldnt be
a bad idea if i could get the form down on it. But shit This all started as me saying give the mother fucker a chance. And to the guy saying that the trap is the upward rotation of the scapula, I say exactly, preform this exercise (the one in the video below) without weight infront of your mirror and see if you cant get a feeling up in those traps as you flex and squeeze those bastards up top. driving the shoulders like you want them at your ears. and i found this video to be much more tolerable to watch.

I believe when you roll out the trap like he said you elongate the muscle and put it in a pretty good spot to get a lengthy stretch out of it…

On the note of my own stats i dont expect you to be impressed. Over time I might post up a progress picture to prove my progress is less than typical. just keep on dogging me down because thats just more motivation. (and motivation i already have plenty)

I like this site. im really not usually such a terd, im just on some Prescribed hydrocodones at the moment so im a bit out of it. [/quote]

You’re a fucking idiot. It is a great sign of stupidity to not know when to stop talking and listen.

Beginners too dumb to know how much they don’t know aren’t worth the effort.

[quote]actionboy wrote:
since X hasnt popped up yet, ill let you know he is a dental surgeon and has been studying anatomy since you were shitting in diapers. [/quote]

I never said he wasn’t. but the truth of the matter is that when that exercise is done like in the video, it hits the trap, and misses the focus of the delt.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:
Haha, You must think I think this exercise a whole bunch, I got into it solely to see what this guy with 37,000 posts would say back. Honestly I think that about every so often your going to have to mix things up in the routine for a muscle whether that be set/rep change, rest strategy, or just a whole new movement and id say that once every four trap isolation workouts, slipping this in there wouldnt be
a bad idea if i could get the form down on it. But shit This all started as me saying give the mother fucker a chance. And to the guy saying that the trap is the upward rotation of the scapula, I say exactly, preform this exercise (the one in the video below) without weight infront of your mirror and see if you cant get a feeling up in those traps as you flex and squeeze those bastards up top. driving the shoulders like you want them at your ears. and i found this video to be much more tolerable to watch.

I believe when you roll out the trap like he said you elongate the muscle and put it in a pretty good spot to get a lengthy stretch out of it…

On the note of my own stats i dont expect you to be impressed. Over time I might post up a progress picture to prove my progress is less than typical. just keep on dogging me down because thats just more motivation. (and motivation i already have plenty)

I like this site. im really not usually such a terd, im just on some Prescribed hydrocodones at the moment so im a bit out of it. [/quote]

You’re a fucking idiot. It is a great sign of stupidity to not know when to stop talking and listen.

Beginners too dumb to know how much they don’t know aren’t worth the effort.
[/quote]

The more I know, the dumber I feel.

these forums are a joke.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
these forums are a joke.[/quote]

They are if they just argued with me for that long when the fact of the matter is that nobody has the power to prove it wrong, nobody really dipped into their thinking caps to just say, “although shrugs and rows are proven to be most effective this exercise does workout the trap as a valid and less effective alternative.” Nobody can prove me wrong that it isn’t valid, and yet everyone tossed their 2 cents in anyways. Nobody gave it a chance. Haha I’m too cynical for this place when I’m on these painkillers.

[quote]TacticalEcto wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
these forums are a joke.[/quote]

They are if they just argued with me for that long when the fact of the matter is that nobody has the power to prove it wrong, nobody really dipped into their thinking caps to just say, “although shrugs and rows are proven to be most effective this exercise does workout the trap as a valid and less effective alternative.” Nobody can prove me wrong that it isn’t valid, and yet everyone tossed their 2 cents in anyways. Nobody gave it a chance. Haha I’m too cynical for this place when I’m on these painkillers. [/quote]

That’s the thing, there is no black and white answers to anything and anyone dismissing someone elses experience because they had different experiences with different methods is dumb. I like to come on here and I do agree with the majority of what the handful of experienced guys have to say, but I also like to make it a point to try and throw things into the mix that don’t go with their philosophy just to show there are different just as effective methods to everything…