Anyone Been Killed Doing Squats?

[quote]sensless wrote:
There is a heart condition that usually causes this particular occurrence. It is rarely detected or even looked for. Someone I work with had their child diagnosed with this disorder, can’t remember the name of it sorry, and was told that their son should not participate in athletics or any very physically strenuating type of activities.

Regards,

Sensless[/quote]
More than one heart condition. I have bicuspid aortic valve and was told as a child to never exercise and ESPECIALLY DON’T LIFT WEIGHTS! I ignored them luckily with my fathers consent. 25 years later I have now finally been told that apparently it’s fine to lift heavy weights with this condition. But there are others conditions. Marfan’s syndrome comes to mind. But there are others beyond that.

[quote]danreeves1973 wrote:
I belive Jon Paul Sigmarson, former Worlds Strongest Man died while in the gym deadlifting, but was from a heart atttack.

It is notable how many athletes have died at a relatively young age from heart related problems. Johny Perry, a WSM competitor died of heart problems. Florence Griffith joyner, “Flo-Jo”, the sprinter died of a heart condition. [/quote]

Along those same lines, and this seems to be a sore spot for the whole Westside crew, but does anyone know what happened to Matt Dimel, or why everyone at Westside is aggressively sensitive (almost secretive) regarding the subject? I absolutely understand that it hurts when someone you train with is gone, and sometimes those wounds hurt worse to re-open, but what’s the whole story?

Man, I see this guy doing squats every day and I swear one of these days he’s going to die. He loads up 225 and puts a chair under him that allows him to do about a 1/4 squat than proceeds to hit the chair hard, bounce up, allowing the bar to travel 3-4 inches above his neck and down again, it’s not as if he’s doing push jerks or something of that nature as he’s too weak to slow the descent and it crashes down on his neck pretty hard, he does this about 8-10 reps per set. I’ve done ballistic exercises before, but this is a little to nuts for me.

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Man, I see this guy doing squats every day and I swear one of these days he’s going to die. He loads up 225 and puts a chair under him that allows him to do about a 1/4 squat than proceeds to hit the chair hard, bounce up, allowing the bar to travel 3-4 inches above his neck and down again, it’s not as if he’s doing push jerks or something of that nature as he’s too weak to slow the descent and it crashes down on his neck pretty hard, he does this about 8-10 reps per set. I’ve done ballistic exercises before, but this is a little to nuts for me.
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Ah yes, the “bruise squat”. Gotta love those. And I vote that it should be legal to murder or seriously maim someone committing a “frat curl” offense.

[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:
911 Girl wrote:
Exactly why I will keep riding my murdercycle and exercising and enjoying my life. Chances are higher that I’ll get killed while at work than doing either one of those. Does that mean I shouldn’t go to work anymore???
Actually I think you are far more likely to die on a motorcycle than at work. [/quote]

Don’t think I would agree. So far I’ve had a gun in my face on two different occasions, had the building catch fire everyone gets to leave but the one sending the call for help, had a prisoner come at me with a knife, a couple bomb threats, and that’s not counting the physical and mental demands of an adrenalin rush without an outlet. I’m not a statistician, but I’ve personally had more close calls while on the job.

Sounds like a bad career choice to me.

Mine isn’t much better–I work in a chemical plant with very nasty acids and highly explosive and toxic gasses. One oops and millions of people would die, including most of Philadelphia.

I have had more problems while walking than I have had on my motorcycle

[quote]911 Girl wrote:
Jay Sherman wrote:
911 Girl wrote:
Exactly why I will keep riding my murdercycle and exercising and enjoying my life. Chances are higher that I’ll get killed while at work than doing either one of those. Does that mean I shouldn’t go to work anymore???
Actually I think you are far more likely to die on a motorcycle than at work.

Don’t think I would agree. So far I’ve had a gun in my face on two different occasions, had the building catch fire everyone gets to leave but the one sending the call for help, had a prisoner come at me with a knife, a couple bomb threats, and that’s not counting the physical and mental demands of an adrenalin rush without an outlet. I’m not a statistician, but I’ve personally had more close calls while on the job.
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[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:
sensless wrote:
There is a heart condition that usually causes this particular occurrence. It is rarely detected or even looked for. Someone I work with had their child diagnosed with this disorder, can’t remember the name of it sorry, and was told that their son should not participate in athletics or any very physically strenuating type of activities.

Regards,

Sensless
More than one heart condition. I have bicuspid aortic valve and was told as a child to never exercise and ESPECIALLY DON’T LIFT WEIGHTS! I ignored them luckily with my fathers consent. 25 years later I have now finally been told that apparently it’s fine to lift heavy weights with this condition. But there are others conditions. Marfan’s syndrome comes to mind. But there are others beyond that. [/quote]

I was referred for a checkup at the Heart Centre a couple weeks ago because the physician who did an ECG treadmill test on me at a private clinic said I had murmurs in my heartbeat. Some kind of irregular heartbeat.

Went for echocardiography scan on my heart and the doctor told me I had a minor leak in a small vessel or something like that. If I’m not wrong it’s the mitral valve.

Is it more or less the same condition as above? The doctor said it was minor problem and I could have got it since childhood. But when I asked what was the worst case scenario that could happen to me, he said “HEART FAILURE”! What kind of minor problem is that?!

Is this something to freak out about? and what precautions should I take training/diet wise. Anyone could comment on this?

Anyway, I’m going for another scan a year later to see if things gets worse. keeping fingers crossed

[quote]odium wrote:
I was referred for a checkup at the Heart Centre a couple weeks ago because the physician who did an ECG treadmill test on me at a private clinic said I had murmurs in my heartbeat. Some kind of irregular heartbeat.

Went for echocardiography scan on my heart and the doctor told me I had a minor leak in a small vessel or something like that. If I’m not wrong it’s the mitral valve. [/quote]
Well a blood vessel leak would be very dangerous I think. But backflow (leak)in a valve is kind of common. I have moderate backflow in my aortic valve because the valve doesn’t close correctly.

It probably is similar but I can’t say for sure. Very rarely the valve just totally gives out and then you’re pretty much dead. Usually it only slowly fails and you have time to have open heart surgery with a replacement valve put in. Usually I think a pig valve? But artificial valves can be used also. Replacement valves only last maybe 10 years so you want to put that off as long as possible if not permanently.

[quote]Is this something to freak out about? and what precautions should I take training/diet wise. Anyone could comment on this?

Anyway, I’m going for another scan a year later to see if things gets worse. keeping fingers crossed
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You may have something different than me, so I really can’t say what precautions you should take. The one thing I noticed is that it’s a really good idea to work into high volume partials very slowly, but that’s a good idea for anyone really.

“Well a blood vessel leak would be very dangerous I think. But backflow (leak)in a valve is kind of common. I have moderate backflow in my aortic valve because the valve doesn’t close correctly.”

Hey man, thks for the reply! Yup, the doc said something like this. Now that you’ve said it, I can recall. It’s some sort of a backflow leak just that it’s happening in the mitral valve. (Same condition?)

I guess there’s nothing to be freaked out about huh? I hope to be pumping iron till the day my heart stops man! :wink: (I just dont want my heart to stop while I’m at it. haha)

[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:
odium wrote:
I was referred for a checkup at the Heart Centre a couple weeks ago because the physician who did an ECG treadmill test on me at a private clinic said I had murmurs in my heartbeat. Some kind of irregular heartbeat.

Went for echocardiography scan on my heart and the doctor told me I had a minor leak in a small vessel or something like that. If I’m not wrong it’s the mitral valve.
Well a blood vessel leak would be very dangerous I think. But backflow (leak)in a valve is kind of common. I have moderate backflow in my aortic valve because the valve doesn’t close correctly.

Is it more or less the same condition as above? The doctor said it was minor problem and I could have got it since childhood. But when I asked what was the worst case scenario that could happen to me, he said “HEART FAILURE”! What kind of minor problem is that?!
It probably is similar but I can’t say for sure. Very rarely the valve just totally gives out and then you’re pretty much dead. Usually it only slowly fails and you have time to have open heart surgery with a replacement valve put in. Usually I think a pig valve? But artificial valves can be used also. Replacement valves only last maybe 10 years so you want to put that off as long as possible if not permanently.

Is this something to freak out about? and what precautions should I take training/diet wise. Anyone could comment on this?

Anyway, I’m going for another scan a year later to see if things gets worse. keeping fingers crossed

You may have something different than me, so I really can’t say what precautions you should take. The one thing I noticed is that it’s a really good idea to work into high volume partials very slowly, but that’s a good idea for anyone really. [/quote]

I forget who the lifter was but in FLEX magazine a couple years ago they had that squatting pic where the bodybuilder snapped his knee ligaments squatting. Not that he died, but pretty disturbing nonetheless.

Jean-Pierre Fux?

That’s the guy! I don’t follow professional bodybuilding but did he ever fully recover?

http://www.jpfux.com/current2.htm

Hey, I read your post about the guy who got overworked at the gym coming into your ER. Sorry to pick your brain, but have you ever watched the TV shows ER or Grey’s Anatomy? Are those things impossible to enjoy having worked in a real ER environment?