Any Other Fat Runners? What's Your Secret?

i dont have compartment syndrome

^^How do you know that?


This is me, age 19 (1993) on leave from the Canadian Forces (infantry).

I’m about 210lbs in this pic and 6 feet tall. The Master Corporals called me fat a lot and said I wasn’t to have dessert in my TQ3 course (after basic training) i even had to do remedial PT some nights with the other fat guys. I recall doing my 2 mile test run in the 14 in to 15 min range…it was 14 minutes something.

I’m saying all this because I look at that pic and think that they were wrong…I wasn’t fat. Check out my hub for pics to see me now.

From my Marine Corps experience: You’ll loose weight and shin splints will eventually go away. People get shin splints whether they’re overweight or not. Ice it now. Once in USMC boot camp, you’ll have to tough it out and you’ll loose weight for sure. Probably end up underweight. If you can’t get through boot camp the first time due to physical injuries, you may get recycled (put in a special platoon to heal until the next training battalion is formed).

[quote]lorddunsmore wrote:
From my Marine Corps experience: You’ll loose weight and shin splints will eventually go away. People get shin splints whether they’re overweight or not. Ice it now. Once in USMC boot camp, you’ll have to tough it out and you’ll loose weight for sure. Probably end up underweight. If you can’t get through boot camp the first time due to physical injuries, you may get recycled (put in a special platoon to heal until the next training battalion is formed). [/quote]

yeah and it would really suck to get rolled back like that if you were pretty far along and have to do it all over again. I was in the military OP and I know what people get shit for and being overweight (even a little bit) you WILL get singled out. Thats just how shit works. Rest your shins, ice them, do some foam rolling and take IB profin for the inflammation.

You might not think that you have compartment syndrome but you dont know that. its a serious medical issue to talk to a doc about because it is almost always misdiagnosed as shin splints. (I know because I have it and had the same thing)

But ignore the advice your getting in here i you want. You’ll find out what its all about when you get to basic

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]potatoface wrote:
Its not a joke

I passed my run with about 30 seconds to spare. I haven’t really lost any weight and my shins still hurt all the time. I am taking a week off to let them heal but I don’t think it will help. in the last 6 weeks or so I have taken like 5-6 day breaks from running several times but I didn’t have any luck because my shins would hurt as soon as I ran again.

I have lost a little bit of weight, but I still weigh like 40lbs more than my peers so ya.

I almost failed on the sit up portion, I scraped by with the bare minimum pretty much because I was so tired from the run my fat stomach is very difficult to compress during that movement.

hopefully boot camp will make me skinny [/quote]

What is your diet like? And what are you doing in the weight room?[/quote]

I think you should read this. Eric Cressey says it so much better than any of us could.

that article doesn’t really apply at all to my situation. thank you though.

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]potatoface wrote:
Its not a joke

I passed my run with about 30 seconds to spare. I haven’t really lost any weight and my shins still hurt all the time. I am taking a week off to let them heal but I don’t think it will help. in the last 6 weeks or so I have taken like 5-6 day breaks from running several times but I didn’t have any luck because my shins would hurt as soon as I ran again.

I have lost a little bit of weight, but I still weigh like 40lbs more than my peers so ya.

I almost failed on the sit up portion, I scraped by with the bare minimum pretty much because I was so tired from the run my fat stomach is very difficult to compress during that movement.

hopefully boot camp will make me skinny [/quote]

What is your diet like? And what are you doing in the weight room?[/quote]

I think you should read this. Eric Cressey says it so much better than any of us could.

http://ericcressey.com/five-resistance-training-myths-in-the-running-world[/quote]

he doesnt really want advice or help. Everyone in this thread has tried to help and he isnt openminded or receptive to any of it. He’ll get to bootcamp(maybe) and then he’ll get his shit kicked in by a DI and see what everyone was talking about.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink

OP, you’re dead. If you’re only passing your 1.5 30 seconds, how are you going to pass a PFT when the pace is the same? I’ll give you a quick hint: you might get a little faster in boot camp, but only because you’re carrying around less weight. Boot camp PT doesn’t build your speed very much. You’re also going to be exhausted, which about cancels out the weight loss speed benefits.

Right now you’re taking 5 days off. You’re not going to get 5 hours off once you’re down there. You’re fat. If you can’t see your abs, you’re fat. You’re going to get crap for being fat until you aren’t fat by Marine Corps standards, which are a hell of a lot more stringent than those of the general public. You’re going to be some kill hat’s favorite special child until you either come through a new person, or you break completely and get recycled.

That being said, good luck. If you get stuck in PCP, bust your ass to get the hell out asap.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]potatoface wrote:
Its not a joke

I passed my run with about 30 seconds to spare. I haven’t really lost any weight and my shins still hurt all the time. I am taking a week off to let them heal but I don’t think it will help. in the last 6 weeks or so I have taken like 5-6 day breaks from running several times but I didn’t have any luck because my shins would hurt as soon as I ran again.

I have lost a little bit of weight, but I still weigh like 40lbs more than my peers so ya.

I almost failed on the sit up portion, I scraped by with the bare minimum pretty much because I was so tired from the run my fat stomach is very difficult to compress during that movement.

hopefully boot camp will make me skinny [/quote]

What is your diet like? And what are you doing in the weight room?[/quote]

I think you should read this. Eric Cressey says it so much better than any of us could.

http://ericcressey.com/five-resistance-training-myths-in-the-running-world[/quote]

he doesnt really want advice or help. Everyone in this thread has tried to help and he isnt openminded or receptive to any of it. He’ll get to bootcamp(maybe) and then he’ll get his shit kicked in by a DI and see what everyone was talking about.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink
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not really sure how you came to this conclusion…

[quote]jaybvee wrote:
Look at your footwear. you say you have “good shoes” but are you sure they’re good for you?
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I’m not overweight so not sure how applicable this is to your situation but just my personal experience - I had a pair of nike running shoes that fit perfectly and were bought suited to the pronation of my feet. I developed some serious shin splints especially in my left leg - I bought myself a pair of nike free 5.0 trainers after reading some reviews on here and slowly transitioned to wearing those instead (started by just wearing them around the gym; then for the odd sprint session; then every sprint session etc etc) and also worked on a few different trigger points in my calves (especially my soleus) with the help of a book called “The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook”. I don’t have shin splints anymore.
Might be worth giving one or both of those a try. Don’t know if you’re allowed to wear frees for army training though.

So I have 3 pairs of running shoes and I noticed they all have their sole designed in a way so the inside of the foot hits the ground first. Well my shin pain is on the inner side of my shin and it is in the same spot in both shins. This makes me think my shoes are a part of the problem.

Is there a word for shoes designed this way? Do they make running shoes that are level?

Well, I’m not a fat runner, but I did run comptetively for years. You should do more cross-training. You can get some great workouts in on the bike and in the pool. Aqua running as well as swimming. This will continue to boost your fitness and help you lose fat. Eventually, you’ll be able to do more impact. Make sure to have a good lifting program and diet too.

It’s been a lot of years since I went to boot camp - actually graduated boot camp when I was still 17. But any ways - here is the current weight chart - I did not see your weight vs height in the posts - apologies if I missed it.

Anyhow - I am 5’8" (68 inches) and 195 lbs - I am overweight by current USMC standards, yet look the best and feel the best I have in a long time.

You have got to find a cure for your shin splints, and soon. You think it bad now - throw 30lbs on your back - grab an 8 lb weapon and run 3 miles in combat boots.

USMC Weight Charts
by Stew Smith

The following tables reflect the Marine Corps weight standards for both male and female Marines.

Marine Corp Weight Allowance Standards (Male)
Height, Maximum Pounds, Minimum Pounds
58 132 91
59 136 94
60 141 97
61 146 100
62 150 104
63 155 107
64 160 110
65 165 114
66 170 117
67 176 121
68 181 125
69 186 128
70 192 132
71 197 136
72 203 140
73 208 144
74 214 148
75 220 152
76 226 156
77 232 160
78 238 164
79 244 168
80 250 173

that chart is a lot different than the one they gave me at MEPS

Could be - I have no idea how often Stew updates his site - having said that, in Boot Camp, they are going to give you a rough physical - if you exceed the max weight for your height, they won’t put you in a regular platoon - right to PCP - Physical Conditioning Platoon/Pork Chop Platoon - and that will follow you, it will be in your service jacket, and it will follow you.

The world you are about to enter is very black and white, they don’t want to hear excuses, don’t care about your childhood, your metabolism, your best bench.

I pride myself on being a Marine. It is a very big part of who I am today. My family has a long USMC history, in fact my ancestor James _______ was a confederate Marine. My middle name is James.

I wish you well, but I can not stress enough, do nothing to mark yourself early in your career. Every assignment, every duty station, the first thing they do is evaluate your service jacket.

Not trying to put you down, but 6 weeks out, you have to know…

Poolie - check this out - may be good for you

www.militaryathlete.com/page.php?page_ID=54

well I passed the IST, I weighed in below the limit, and I keep improving every day in my running so I don’t see why would be put in PCP

Great, I look forward to hearing all about the “new” boot camp when you get out. The times have changed, from the stories my grandad told me, then my dad (Hollywood Marine) and my own experience.

Good Luck!

Im not sure what you’re getting at.

I passed all the criteria for not being in PCP but you’re making it sound like that doesn’t matter.