Another Small Arm Thread

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[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:
I’m 6’ tall and my weight fluctuates between the 185 - 210 or so. I’m not looking to increase my arm size at the expense of of a huge bodyfat increase. Of course I know it increases when you look to add muscle, but I’m not looking for a long term waist increase to go with it.[/quote]

hey, you gotta do what you gotta do! ask any of the real big guys here and they will admit at one point or another their bodyfat got over what they felt comfortable with. but once they cut down they had that base of muscle they wouldnt have gotten had they kept “hawt abz” the whole time.

i myself went up to 210lbs at 5’7 (not big, i know), but uncomfortably overweight. but once i cut down my arms were 17.5". not big for some guys, but adequate for me!

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Looking back at the OP, I feel like calling BS. 5 posts total and they’re all in this thread. At 6’ and in the neighborhood of 200lb at 11% BF with a 300lb bench and 5x BW+ 90lb dips? 14.5" arms seems unlikely. 14.5 seems small for an untrained individual with his stats.

Op, got some pics?

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[quote]wannabebig25 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

I’m your height, around the same age and am sitting at 205 right now. My arms are 3.25 inches larger than yours. 14.5 inch arms at your height/weight is small. You NEED to do direct arm work. And it needs to be as heavy as possible.[/quote]

Yeah, I know I’m behind on arm growth. I’m stronger than a lot of guys in the gym, but their arms are way bigger. Mind sharing some of your max numbers? [/quote]

The general population at gyms are fucking weak pussies. Stop comparing yourself to them. I literally had to hunt down a dude at the gym the other day that could lift a 105lbs db up and hand it to me on incline. Out of the 15+ people in the free weight area, there were 2, besides myself, that can get 105lbs to chest level and hand it off.

The general gym population is pathetic. I hope to christ if you are half way serious about lifting you are stronger than most at the gym.
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most of the guys in my gym WEIGH 105lbs LOL. yet they still ““curl”” cough powerclean, 40lbs dumbbells.[/quote]

I have seen dudes snap that dumbell up, literally no bicep contraction at all. there whole goal is to get that weight up. 100% pure ego involved. meanwhile, they wonder to the heavens, why their arms are so puny. You tell them to lower the weight, and do the curl right. they look at you like your crazy. “lighten the weight? they ask. Ill never get big if don’t lift heavy.”

I just want to slap guys like that. The day guys understand, that the amount of weight you lift, has absolutely nothing to do with stimulating muscle growth. You want to lift heavy, but not to heavy your not allowing the muscle to work. Unlike chest, when you do a bench or incline, that muscle is basically doing all the work, its hard for it not to do the work, especially on inclines. Bench presses can be a different story. but when working arms, its so easy for other muscle groups to take over.

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[quote]cueball wrote:
Looking back at the OP, I feel like calling BS. 5 posts total and they’re all in this thread. At 6’ and in the neighborhood of 200lb at 11% BF with a 300lb bench and 5x BW+ 90lb dips? 14.5" arms seems unlikely. 14.5 seems small for an untrained individual with his stats.

Op, got some pics?[/quote]

those are definitely 1rm poundages id say, combined with the 50% forum noob boost, hes actually benching 135 and squatting 165 for reps.

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I wasn’t comparing myself to the vast majority at the gym, I was comparing myself to the ones that have good arm size and a nice defined look, yet very little strength.

If I’m increasing my strength, shouldn’t the size just automatically come with the strength increase? I’m following premade training programs. The last two have been Defranco’s Westside for Skinny Bastards, then Thibaudeau’s OVT. I will say that this is the first time I’ve ever done a body part once a week.

What else can I do?

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[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:

What else can I do? [/quote]

eat more :slight_smile:

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[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:
I wasn’t comparing myself to the vast majority at the gym, I was comparing myself to the ones that have good arm size and a nice defined look, yet very little strength.

If I’m increasing my strength, shouldn’t the size just automatically come with the strength increase? I’m following premade training programs. The last two have been Defranco’s Westside for Skinny Bastards, then Thibaudeau’s OVT. I will say that this is the first time I’ve ever done a body part once a week.

What else can I do? [/quote]

I dunno, more direct arm work?

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[quote]wannabebig25 wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:
Looking back at the OP, I feel like calling BS. 5 posts total and they’re all in this thread. At 6’ and in the neighborhood of 200lb at 11% BF with a 300lb bench and 5x BW+ 90lb dips? 14.5" arms seems unlikely. 14.5 seems small for an untrained individual with his stats.

Op, got some pics?[/quote]

those are definitely 1rm poundages id say, combined with the 50% forum noob boost, hes actually benching 135 and squatting 165 for reps.[/quote]

I’m inclined to agree with this.

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[quote]cueball wrote:
Looking back at the OP, I feel like calling BS. 5 posts total and they’re all in this thread. At 6’ and in the neighborhood of 200lb at 11% BF with a 300lb bench and 5x BW+ 90lb dips? 14.5" arms seems unlikely. 14.5 seems small for an untrained individual with his stats.

Op, got some pics?[/quote]

Yeah, here’s a pic.

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[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:
I wasn’t comparing myself to the vast majority at the gym, I was comparing myself to the ones that have good arm size and a nice defined look, yet very little strength.

If I’m increasing my strength, shouldn’t the size just automatically come with the strength increase? I’m following premade training programs. The last two have been Defranco’s Westside for Skinny Bastards, then Thibaudeau’s OVT. I will say that this is the first time I’ve ever done a body part once a week.

What else can I do? [/quote]

Stop posting?

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OP, if your numbers are legit then you are much stronger than you look. You’re going to need more direct arm work (as steed by every single poster in this thread) and you’re gonna need more cals.

Are you more concerned with the amount of weight lifted or your arm size?

If your goal is bigger arms (or legs, chest, shoulders, back ect.) why wouldn’t you HAMMER that bodypart at least once a week? It doesn’t make sense to not train a muscle to the fullest if your ultimate goal is to build that muscle.

Good luck OP, seems like you know what you need to do.

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This is dumb.

Who the fuck is still avoiding training arms but wanting huge ones?

Really? Someone needed to TELL you that you needed to do some curls?

Really?

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[quote]gregron wrote:
OP, if your numbers are legit then you are much stronger than you look. You’re going to need more direct arm work (as steed by every single poster in this thread) and you’re gonna need more cals.

Are you more concerned with the amount of weight lifted or your arm size?

If your goal is bigger arms (or legs, chest, shoulders, back ect.) why wouldn’t you HAMMER that bodypart at least once a week? It doesn’t make sense to not train a muscle to the fullest if your ultimate goal is to build that muscle.

Good luck OP, seems like you know what you need to do.[/quote]

Thanks Gregron, I think I am much stronger than I look. I guess my goal is to be well rounded and have strength, but look muscular as well. Sounds like hammering my arms with some isolation is the way I need to go.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is dumb.

Who the fuck is still avoiding training arms but wanting huge ones?

Really? Someone needed to TELL you that you needed to do some curls?

Really?[/quote]

I’m not avoiding it, I’m just focusing on Rows, pulls, chins, dips, and presses.

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[quote]BobbinWithApes wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:
Looking back at the OP, I feel like calling BS. 5 posts total and they’re all in this thread. At 6’ and in the neighborhood of 200lb at 11% BF with a 300lb bench and 5x BW+ 90lb dips? 14.5" arms seems unlikely. 14.5 seems small for an untrained individual with his stats.

Op, got some pics?[/quote]

Yeah, here’s a pic. [/quote]

Thanks for posting pics. Says something. And you will get better help here because of it. I’m guessing your closer to 185 than 210 in these pics, yes?

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by looking at your pics, your arms seem in proportion with the rest of your body. your arms are skinny, cause the rest of you is skinny. You need to gain over all mass to get the arms bigger. your a thin guy. its not like you have huge chest, shoulders and back, but small arms. everything is small. eat more. lift heavy, but lift the right amount of time under tension.

which means, if your doing under 6 reps, your not going to stimulate as much muscle growth as you could by doing 8-12 reps. get stronger, but get stronger in the correct rep range. Im finding it amazing this guy isn’t taking what im saying to heart.

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Well,
First realize your on a body building site, inhabited by hardcore accomplished people (not me)… You haven’t learned the meaning of intensity.

To put it in perspective:
My son had better numbers last year when he was: 14, 150-160 with 14’’ arms. His primary focus is BJJ, not lifting. Bench 200, dead 285, squat 215, curl 100… All honest lifts.

Perhaps you should consider giving your ego a reality check. Figure out if this is something you want to actually do, not just think you do.

If you do wish to actually do this. Put your pride aside: throw out everything you think you know and start over.

I would suggest the program “starting strength”.

or

5/3/1

For what seems like a long time, like a year or more. This is a long game. Then figure out your goals and choose an appropriate plan for that goal and stick with it.

Me: for first ~2 1/2 years I did 5x5. It did well by me, given certain personal limitations. Probably not the best to start with but too late now.

Others know better and can give better advise.

But lastly,

SQUATS AND MILK!

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[quote]Null wrote:
Perhaps you should consider giving your ego a reality check. Figure out if this is something you want to actually do, not just think you do.
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I’m not sure where your presmise is coming from to question my desire or love for working out. I realize that there are a lot of people on here that can teach me a huge amount n the topic of strength training / Bodybuilding, and I believe I’ve taken a very humble approach to the whole topic.

Not sure why you’re thinking my ego is getting in the way of any kind of learning or lifting, but you have to remember that just because I want to get larger arms, doesn’t mean that my goals are the same as yours or your sons.

I’ve worked hard for my numbers and while they may not be the best or as good as yours, I’m proud of them. Could I have done it more effeciently, yes. Could I have gotten more muscle and size, yes. But to go from 165 lbs to 185-210 I don’t think you should be trying to diminish what I’ve done.

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The reason I said reality check.
Is that people are telling you that what your doing is not working and how to change it.
And you comeback with resistance…

Boils down to:
EAT
LIFT
SLEEP

But your lifting program should be selected based upon your experience, and goals. Fortunately, there’s several great beginner programs here. Starting strength will work, 5/3/1 will work.

If “bigger arms” are your only goal. Well, work on bi’s and tri’s. Almost anything will get 14’’ bigger, even just eating…

People question your actual maxes as we see so many: 1/4 rep wonders, team benching, and curl humping. Are your lifts honest? Squats to 90. bench to the chest, no bounce, no help. Curl humping?