Am I allowed to comment on this,
given this
?
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So I screwed up the schedule a bit, and logging is a big pain. Will get back on schedule next week. I’m getting all the work in
Updates:
- @cyclonengineer I’m finally gaining confidence with data stuff. Now when my advisor asks me to do stuff, I can mentally outline what I’m going to do instead of panicking and thinking “which friend has time to sit by my computer to help”
- Met with my advisor yesterday. Turns out I will have to completely redesign and rerun my study. Basically… start back at square one. He hasn’t given up on me yet, so I’m not giving up either, but the prospects of finishing this project before I graduate are looking quite slim…
- My prof made a comment about gov corruption in Eastern Europe and my friend (that one) chuckled- made me really happy. This seems like a small thing, but in the past, he would have ignored it (like the rest of the class) or rolled his eyes when he saw me laughing.
yes you are.
I was just frustrated that my log got blown up with a depressing conversation when I had hit PRs
It’s good you can admit that.
Why do you workout when you’re bored or sad?
Congrats on the PRs.
I seriously believe you could be stronger, leaner, healthier, and have more free time if you simply reduced activity levels. I enjoy working out too but the entire purpose is a positive adaptation. Would you ever take on a lower salary that required double the hours? Hell no
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Okay, given that you write,
I’d say that training is one of your
but it is worth investing in having others.
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To be fair 90% of people who train consistently workout when bored or sad. It’s something to do which makes us feel good (Which is not drugs or booze), and a great stress reliever.
Are you aware there is a difference between what we can tolerate/ recover from and what we can adapt to? A lot of us tend to think that because we can recover from doing certain things that it is not hindering us when it actually stops us from fully achieving the desired adaptation (strength increase)
The question about these workouts is are they activity that creates stimulus for the adaptations you want or stimulus which hinders proper recovery and creates more caloric expenditure which your body has to get used to ?
HOWEVER mental health is also important so if these extra workouts are good for you mentally then that is a valid reason to compromise recovery.
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I agree with “…workout when bored or sad”
I do not think “…workout because they are bored or sad” is the norm.
I mean the former.
When I’m bored or depressed, I go to the gym
That sounds like the latter.
The former would be “I’m bored or sad and I’m going to workout. Not because I’m bored or sad but because it’s the right time to workout”
Some of it is for caloric expenditure. I like eating and would not be able to eat very much if I didn’t keep up high activity levels
The extra work the past week on top of what is normal wasn’t for this purpose though. I did poorly on a midterm and had less work than usual
See, that’s where it gets twisty.
In recovering from substance abuse I’d jump on my bike or hit the weights when I was feeling anxious or like I wanted to use. That would give me the feel goods and mission accomplished. As a result, I worked my way into a better state of mind and body. Yay.
But what we’re looking at here is a person using that same mechanism- exercise, as the unhealthy means to feel good by way of overusing it to the point of compromising her own health.
That’s kinda what the whole hub-bub is about.
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Remember that article I listed a while back?
I don’t know if it proved but it suggested that overall calorie expenditure is not linear. It tested subjects with low and high levels of activity and the results showed those with high levels of activity had diminishing calorie expenditure with additional exercise. Suggesting the body reduced calorie expenditure in other areas to compensate (ie standard bodily functions are affected … you know what I’m suggesting).
I guarantee that you could eat just as much while reducing your activity levels and you would not see the weight gain that you expect.
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Might take some time for her to adjust, but I think the conversation over the last few days indicates that @anna_5588 isn’t interested in reducing her activity levels. If she made a pro- and con-list for reducing activity there doesn’t appear to be anything she’d put in the “pro”-column. She doesn’t want that time “back”, as she says it helps her with her homework — so all that time walking is not inhibiting her from doing other things and I’ve never gotten the inclination that she worries at all about increased injury-risk or long term wear and tear on connective tissues or bone. I hope she’ll correct me, but unlike a lot of us that sees issues with the prevailing approach in this log I don’t think she has any buy-in that affords her to conceive that maybe her mood and times of having a hard time to concentrate is at all tied in with any of this.
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Oh I agree and this is the part where it gets twisty and messy. Anna has an issue and the main symptoms of that issue are her diet and overactivity and on one end the mechanism being used is in itself doing the harm… On the other end if you take away that mechanism can her issues be expressed in a more harmful way? Perhaps she moves less, she gets anxious and her mind plays games making her look fatter to the point she skips a day of eating every few days (Example)
This is false.
Multiple studies have found this. There is also a recent study on the metabolism and calories burned of the last remaining hunter gather tribe in the wild who have to hunt their food ( throw a spear multiple times, run after wounded animals, carry them back home) and run for their lives from predators who are drastically more active than we are… Surprise surprise they don’t burn more calories than we do,
Your body adapts to what it has to in order to survive and that includes slowing down energy burning processes when we are too active.
Agreed.
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I am
It’s a very complicated
I want to do less but I’m afraid of weight gain and also being lazy. I tell myself I will do less, but then I get bored or get some bad news or see tiger posters crushing hard workouts → I go workout
Sure it can. I’d like to bring to bear @Koestrizer s previous analogy. If you have a person that deals with their stress and emotional distress by drinking, would you worry about reducing the amount of alcohol they drink because it’ll be really tough for them to find ways to deal with their stress and distress?
Dealing with emotions isn’t only about escape. It is (probably) necessary to have tools to escape, but it is also important to learn how to work through those emotions in an effort to resolve them.
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I get hungry. It’s hard for me to cut calories
Not training after having trained isn’t being lazy. It’s recovery.
You have other hobbies. This sounds like a habit trigger. Does it have to fire the same way each time?
And experiencing your emotions run the risk of what happening? If you stayed with your emotions when you get bad news, or something bad happens, will something worse become you other than that you are sad/upset/angry/bummed?
I’m asking, not coyly, (but without demanding an answer) “How bad of a state are you in?” If you didn’t work out, will you hurt yourself? Have a panic attack? Etcetera.
I’d encourage you to read the book Xenocide, but regrettably it is the third in a series and asking you to read two books to get to it seems a bit extreme. There is a character there that “deals” with her emotions by tracing lines in the grain of wood on every floor board in a room. I think about her a lot when you talk about your perceived laziness.
Why? Because we tell you to or some other reason?
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I don’t accept that the only result can be worse. Like, I don’t suggest that people continue drinking because they might do heroin.
I mean, there is a whole world of coping mechanisms outside of binging and purging.
Because that’s what we’re talking about. Coping mechanisms. Healthy ones.
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