I tolerate cheese (except cottage cheese) and sour cream well. Lactose free products also don’t bother me
yogurt does, but sometimes I just can’t resist 
whatever issues dairy has are probably no worse than those associated with poptarts or eating pure honey
Edit: if the additional concerns are environmental of ethical, I completely understand
Out of curiosity, what other issues do you think dairy has?
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@Voxel It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly where the issue may lie. Casein can be a major issue for people, but it’s not a one size fits all. Depends highly on the variant, species, form of consumption, and, of course, the dosage. But with a quick search it is easy to find a wealth of posts on complicated dairy intolerances regarding digestion and hormonal well-being from folks who aren’t lactose intolerant. I don’t think everyone needs to give up dairy, and maybe that isn’t the first thing someone like Anna or someone with a similar diet does to alleviate this issue. Could very well be other factors like gluten, FODMAPs, etc. Too many variables. But the fact that so many people feel immensely better without any or some forms of dairy should in my opinion not be ignored.
And I don’t direct this toward anyone here because most of the community is male and Anna’s hormones are probably wrecked, but dairy can range from annoying to havoc-wreaking for women’s hormonal health. The amount of anecdotal evidence for this is also overwhelming. And hey, I’m a representative from this category. Nothing extreme, but I feel better without dairy and suffer no ill effects from avoiding it.
TLDR if suspecting dairy intolerance, try eliminating for 30 days (just like for any suspected food intolerance) and then gradually experiment to see what works. For example, some people can’t tolerate dairy from cows but are fine with goat, sheep, camel, etc. Lots of variables.
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Sure, there are tons of other foods that may exacerbate digestion more than or less than dairy. I don’t mean to be a nutritional fear monger, but dairy is a touchy subject for people who suffer severe food intolerances.
And trust me, I am against CAFOs and industrial agriculture like most. But I feel that today’s plant-based movements are more environmentally and ethically harmful, so don’t worry about that, haha.
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Do you know if this is a global problem or might be applicable more within certain countries?
Dropping into the dairy discussion, my kids have dairy intolerance and it’s not lactose, it’s the protein, apparently cow milk protein allergy is fairly common, they do a hydrolysed baby milk which we were prescribed and that worked perfectly.
I’m also intolerant to dairy (use oat milk) but use whey cheese and butter and still get some problems but I love it too much!
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If possible, I might be intolerant to lack of dairy. I am at least 40% cheese at this point.
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I’ve taken whey and casein powders for years without issue. I’ve recently switched to a pea protein powder bc I prefer the texture- no digestive difference
Lol 
I think @alex_uk is in a similar situation
This is how I feel about yogurt. If it’s in the house, I’m eating it. That’s why I stock up on lactose free cottage cheese and cream cheese so I don’t end up destroying the toilet
Lactose intolerance, interestingly, does have some geographical basis -
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I was more focused on the non-lactose part of the conversation as I imagine that the hormonal bit might be influenced by how the dairy cows are reared and if they’re given hormones.
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Weekly checkin:
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Weight: 93.6- a bit blocked up
@Voxel @vision1
I think I might have pushed a bit hard on Thursday, my hamstrings, glutes and knees are really pissed and the normal workout (sprints, pistols) isn’t going to happen this morning. I’ll wait a couple of hours and see how I feel
Do a restorative yoga session for active recovery and call it a growth day?
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Interesting, Might be worth looking into.
I took yesterday off and only did 2 proper workouts this week.
If I punt to tomorrow, I’ll have to do the first workout next week on a Tuesday, and I don’t have time on Tuesdays bc classes
A lot of people have progressed exercising twice weekly. And sure, you evidently have a plan on paper but if the recovery isn’t there you’re just digging a deeper hole that’ll take even longer to get out of.
I maintain that you’ve had a long period of time where you overreached without adequate nutrition and so a period of doing less than average is probably a good idea long-term.
If you want to dig a deeper hole to stroke your ego, to hold yourself up to some standard, to penalise yourself, or whatever the underlying reason actually is I don’t believe you can present a sound enough argument to me that I’ll believe you’re being objective about what is truly best for you.
You could definitely punt to tomorrow, and do something upper body oriented on Monday and still have your classes on a Tuesday. Sometimes our plans don’t match up with our life and/or recovery. I just try and adapt. It’s quite nice. I encourage you to try it.
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So I repeat this suggestion. Feel better tomorrow and do it then and do a gap/fun upper body sesh on Monday.
I’m going to see how I feel later. If I still feel crap, I’ll do upper body today since that feels great and switch to an upper/lower split
@vision1 what do you think?
Wouldn’t it be nice to not feel like crap in either region for once?
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That was Thursday
@alex_uk as a reference, I didn’t have proved carbs (just bout cottage cheese so polished off a pint) and slept great