Are you on HCG yet? If not defiantly get some and you’ll feel way better. Sounds like the gel is working well for you?
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
fightu35 wrote:
hello guys…I just talk to my doc…he said my LH & FSH was low…and said something about other tests I could take,he did not say…but he also said somethnig about an MRI?
does anyone know what an MRI could do with TEST LEVELS ???
my last 2 test results are
TOTAL TEST 937 754
FREE TEST 37.85 24.30 (OUT OF RANGE) ??
% FREE TEST 4.04 3.31
TSH 1.96
FSH <0.3
LH <0.07
ESTRADIO SERUM 28 ?
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT…
If you are administering exo test then due to negative feedback, of course LH and FSH will be low, as surely as night follows day.#
I can’t believe your endo doesn’t realise this.
An MRI might be used to check for anatomical anomalies in the pituitary gland. Low LH/FSH as a result of TRT does NOT indicate a pituitary problem.
Also, yes, you can inject oil based test with an insulin needle. Any oil based test.[/quote]
an indsulin needle to inject ENANTHATE ? Ive been told over & over you can not …thank you for your reply…
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
fightu35 wrote:
AlteredState wrote:
fightu35 wrote:
hello guys…I just talk to my doc…he said my LH & FSH was low…and said something about other tests I could take,he did not say…but he also said somethnig about an MRI?
does anyone know what an MRI could do with TEST LEVELS ???
my last 2 test results are
TOTAL TEST 937 754
FREE TEST 37.85 24.30 (OUT OF RANGE) ??
% FREE TEST 4.04 3.31
TSH 1.96
FSH <0.3
LH <0.07
ESTRADIO SERUM 28 ?
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT…
If you are administering exo test then due to negative feedback, of course LH and FSH will be low, as surely as night follows day.#
I can’t believe your endo doesn’t realise this.
An MRI might be used to check for anatomical anomalies in the pituitary gland. Low LH/FSH as a result of TRT does NOT indicate a pituitary problem.
Also, yes, you can inject oil based test with an insulin needle. Any oil based test.
an indsulin needle to inject ENANTHATE ? Ive been told over & over you can not …thank you for your reply…
Well then it would seem that you (and everyone you have listened to, lol) is labouring under a misapprehension.
Why should it be possible to inject one oil based steroid with an insulin pin, yet a different oil based steroid won’t?
There is no real reason. Oil is the carrier in all cases and oil determines the viscosity. Sure, some preparations might be slightly different thicknesses than others, but not so much that the same general rules don’t apply.
I mean if you are so curious, why not just try it? What have you got to lose, other than a fraction of a ml of your test, if it doesn’t work.
BTW, you will need to backfill the insulin syringe with the necessary amount of test, using a standard barrel/needle combo.
In fact, why not prefil a whole load of them to save time and then just store them in a dark draw somewhere for ED or EOD usage?
Bushy[/quote]
I think I have seen,you can use them…but will take forever to load…because its thick…thanks for the reply.
KSman and others
started 4 pumps androgel may 28th , with a 305 T level, felt ok for a couple weeks then depression started in so I upped to 6 pumps, , June 24th my T level was tested and was at 245!. I feel like sh…t again.
Last week had COMPLETE blood work done, get results tommmorrow.
KSman I found this forum in here where you and others talk about the need for AI with TRT.
BTW I did not know there was a liquid arimidex
[quote]matthewt wrote:
KSman and others
started 4 pumps androgel may 28th , with a 305 T level, felt ok for a couple weeks then depression started in so I upped to 6 pumps, , June 24th my T level was tested and was at 245!. I feel like sh…t again.
Last week had COMPLETE blood work done, get results tommmorrow.
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…are you the poster also known as matt9914?
yes, MATT9914 IS ME, where did you get that from?
…I know all, I see all. Be afraid…hebs 
[quote]matthewt wrote:
KSman I found this forum in here where you and others talk about the need for AI with TRT.
BTW I did not know there was a liquid arimidex[/quote]
Do not ask your doctor for it.
KSman here are my latest blood work I got results today
blood drawn on 6/18/08 after 3 weeks on 4 pumps of T gel my Testosterone, serum, Total was 245 out of a range of 350-1030
Free T was 37 out of a range of 52-280
SHBG was 49 out of a range of 20-60
NEWEST BLOOD TEST, blood drawn 7/1/08
Testosterone Serum,total 166 [R 350-1050]
free T 25 range 52-280
SHBG 44 [R 20-60]
Progesterone <10 range <10-11
estradiol 1.0 ng/dl 0.8-3.5 ng/dl
t4 10 [4.5-12.00]
T3 162 [85-205]
glucose plasma ok
LDL 1279 ABOVE OPTIMAL 1000-1299
cholesteral 146
other lipod profile numbers ok
Started off 350 TT and steadily going down the ore T gel I use, next endo visit august 11, in the mean time he said I can up my T gel dose , even I know that wont help, his nurse said he would consider shots when he gets back in town in august, in the meantime I do not feel well
[quote]matthewt wrote:
KSman here are my latest blood work I got results today
blood drawn on 6/18/08 after 3 weeks on 4 pumps of T gel my Testosterone, serum, Total was 245 out of a range of 350-1030
Free T was 37 out of a range of 52-280
SHBG was 49 out of a range of 20-60
NEWEST BLOOD TEST, blood drawn 7/1/08
Testosterone Serum,total 166 [R 350-1050]
free T 25 range 52-280
SHBG 44 [R 20-60]
Progesterone <10 range <10-11
estradiol 1.0 ng/dl 0.8-3.5 ng/dl
t4 10 [4.5-12.00]
T3 162 [85-205]
glucose plasma ok
LDL 1279 ABOVE OPTIMAL 1000-1299
cholesteral 146
other lipod profile numbers ok
Started off 350 TT and steadily going down the ore T gel I use, next endo visit august 11, in the mean time he said I can up my T gel dose , even I know that wont help, his nurse said he would consider shots when he gets back in town in august, in the meantime I do not feel well
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Might be an issue of application
Squeeze all of the gel from the foil packet, the tube, or the number of pumps if using the pump bottle, into a cupped palm. Gently press your two palms together. When you separate your hands, you will have very nearly half of the gel on each palm. Do not rub your hands together. Try to keep the gel on the palms, instead of getting between the fingers. Then simply cross your arms, wiping the gel over your shoulders and upper arms.
Thus apply most of it across your upper arms and shoulders. Absolutely avoid the area where they draw the blood from. Finish off by wiping what is left down your FLANKS (sides of your abdomen�??not the middle). Then thoroughly wash your hands. Once you have washed them, there is no worry whatsoever about accidental transferal to others, as there is none left on the surface to transfer. Studies have shown this, and also that merely putting on a T-shirt to cover the exposed areas will do the same for the rest of you.
If you had to, you could shower in an hour or so, without appreciable loss of testosterone delivery, as the gel soaks into the skin, and the skin acts as the actual reservoir for dispensation of the drug. You wouldn�??t want to do this all the time, but swimming or showering in a pinch can be done. It’s still a good idea to take a quick shower before engaging in intimacy.
For maximum effect, apply the gel within 3 minutes of showering.
You want a delay of at least two hours after application before drawing labs.
I apply as per directions
why do you say not to aply to middle of abdomen?
[quote]matthewt wrote:
I apply as per directions
why do you say not to aply to middle of abdomen?
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Avoid areas with fat on them - You want the leanest areas possible
I do not think i will use the cream much longer, i started 5 -6 weeks ago, T going down every montt
NEWEST BLOOD TEST, blood drawn 7/1/08
Testosterone Serum,total 166 [R 350-1050]
free T 25 range 52-280
SHBG 44 [R 20-60]
Progesterone <10 range <10-11
estradiol 1.0 ng/dl 0.8-3.5 ng/dl
t4 10 [4.5-12.00]
T3 162 [85-205]
glucose plasma ok
LDL 1279 ABOVE OPTIMAL 1000-1299
cholesteral 146
other lipod profile numbers ok
Started off 350 T and steadily going down the more T gel I use, next endo visit august 11, in the mean time he said I can up my T gel dose , even I know that wont help, his nurse said he would consider shots when he gets back in town in august, in the meantime I do not feel well
Damn you have to be one hurting puppy at the moment. Drop the endo and go anywhere! Find an anti-aging clinic and have them treat you. August 11th!!! That’s ridiculous. Myself and a lot of other guys in here can certainly understand what you’re going through.