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What hasn’t been mentioned that’s throwing some people off is the appearance at first glance that:

MAG-10 = Casein Hydrolysate
Anaconda = Casein Hydrolysate + Creatine + Beta-Alanine

Lots of people on this site and elsewhere have been running a version of this stack for some time now. A great “stack” to be sure, but it remains to be seen if the “Superhyrdration Catalyst” and the “2-oxopropanoate” form of creatine are the gateway to otherwordly gains. Some people on here are talking about Anaconda as if it were a pro-hormone.

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That’s true, but then that means you continuously have a bunch of extra MAG-10 and AGPC, and a new Nalgene every month. I did that break down assuming you were buying all these products for workout nutrition only; the package deal assumes you’ll be using MAG-10 to pulse on your off days, and I’m not sure what the extra AGPC is for (sleep maybe?). So sure, look at it that way, but eventually you’d have to be buying ANACONDA and FINiBARs on their own since you’d have a stock pile of AGPC and MAG-10 form the packages.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
BlakedaMan wrote:
Some people are not realizing the actual cost of the protocol. Even though the package runs $345, you get extra MAG-10 for pulsing on off days, a lot of extra Alpha-GPC, and the Nalgene bottle. If you calculate it all up based on the prices for ordering multiples of each item, the cost breaks down like this:

ANACONDA: 3 scoops @ $2.72/scoop = $8.16/workout
MAG-10: 2 scoops @ $1.60/scoop = $3.20/workout
FINiBARs: 3 @ $1.50/bar = $4.50/workout
Alpha-GPC: 1 serving (900 mg) @ $1.04/serving = $1.04/workout

so, $16.90/workout is the true cost. Say you work out 4 times a week, it’ll run you about $270 for a month. It’s a stretch, but not as much as you might have thought. Again, this is all based on you using these products for workout nutrition only, but it is the FULL protocol.

Not bad!

For anyone who’s interested, the old recommendation of:
-90: 900 mg AGPC
-60: 2 FINiBARs
-30: 2 scoops SWF
-10: 2 scoops SR
during WO: 2 scoops ANACONDA
+60: 1 scoop MAG-10 (pre-meal)

runs $14.97/workout, and since the post-workout MAG-10 may not be necessary (no post workout nutrition on the new protocol), the cost without it is $13.37/workout.

Say you skip the PWO MAG-10, 4 weekly workouts will run you about $214, and with it it’s about $240 a month.

NOW, not only is the new protocol way more convenient, CT has stated he felt the effects 5 times faster than the old recommendation.

Hope that clears it up.

Yes, but even YOU are missing one important factor that nobody else has yet acknowledged.

If you click on the Anaconda package, at checkout you will see a “Special discount” awarded of $35. Meaning, even if you were to buy multiple units of each supplement in the package to accrue the multi-unit discount, you will NOT receive the EXTRA $35 in savings. Since the package is meant to run for 16 workouts a month - not sure where some of you guys are getting this “10 workouts thing” - then you would take $35 / 16 workouts per month as a SAVINGS.

So, your calculation of $16.90/workout is accurate IF a person only ever buys the supplements separately and in multiple units. If they actually purchase one “Anaconda package” per month (16 workouts usage), despite getting a $24 Nalgene bottle, they STILL receive $35 off MORE…

So the cost is actually $16.90 MINUS $35/16 workouts (savings for buying the entire package) … which gives us $14.71 / workout.

Jehova,

I have no clue where you are getting $21/workout. Not sure where you went to school.[/quote]

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[quote]cobrakai wrote:
You’d be surprised how easy it is to “waste” $350 a month on bs, yet you guys are PMSing over ANACONDA protocol price.
-drop the internet from your cell phone
-don’t rent movies at video stores, use Redbox or Netflix
-quit trying to impress women on expensive dates. Heck, the average date these days is a benjamin
-cut out all alcohol
-call around and get cheaper car insurance. If you’re driving record sucks well then you’re an idiot. Can’t help you there.

If you need more financial help just ask. You’d be surprised how much free advice there is out there in life. There are a TON of ways to save money. [/quote]
OK, that just saved me $15 per month…

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[quote]JN7844 wrote:
zraw wrote:
I dont know if anyone tought about this but…

If you switch things up a bit and use 2scoops of Anaconda + 3 scoops of MAG-10 (instead of 3/2), your protocol is good for 22 workouts instead of 16…

Altough you would need to buy another box of FINiBARs

WOW! I didn’t look at it that way. [/quote]

Actually for 22 workouts you would need to do

6 workouts of 3 Anaconda, 2 MAG-10
16 workouts of 2 Anaconda, 3 MAG-10

= 50 servings of Anaconda and 60 servings of MAG-10

Its probably what i’ll be going for

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[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
Some people are not realizing the actual cost of the protocol. Even though the package runs $345, you get extra MAG-10 for pulsing on off days, a lot of extra Alpha-GPC, and the Nalgene bottle. If you calculate it all up based on the prices for ordering multiples of each item, the cost breaks down like this:

ANACONDA: 3 scoops @ $2.72/scoop = $8.16/workout
MAG-10: 2 scoops @ $1.60/scoop = $3.20/workout
FINiBARs: 3 @ $1.50/bar = $4.50/workout
Alpha-GPC: 1 serving (900 mg) @ $1.04/serving = $1.04/workout

so, $16.90/workout is the true cost. Say you work out 4 times a week, it’ll run you about $270 for a month. It’s a stretch, but not as much as you might have thought. Again, this is all based on you using these products for workout nutrition only, but it is the FULL protocol.

Not bad!

For anyone who’s interested, the old recommendation of:
-90: 900 mg AGPC
-60: 2 FINiBARs
-30: 2 scoops SWF
-10: 2 scoops SR
during WO: 2 scoops ANACONDA
+60: 1 scoop MAG-10 (pre-meal)

runs $14.97/workout, and since the post-workout MAG-10 may not be necessary (no post workout nutrition on the new protocol), the cost without it is $13.37/workout.

Say you skip the PWO MAG-10, 4 weekly workouts will run you about $214, and with it it’s about $240 a month.

NOW, not only is the new protocol way more convenient, CT has stated he felt the effects 5 times faster than the old recommendation.

Hope that clears it up.[/quote]

Fuck, you’re my new best friend.

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BlakedaMan, did you ever subtract the $35 savings off from the protocol?

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Well what peoples beef seems to be is some people saying useing ANACONDA makes you more hardcore.

Main thing that matters to me is results. Like I know tons of little wimpy guys who talk about lifting all the time and buy 4 million dollars worth of supplements with there dadddys money a week. But then you have world champions training with shit they found in a junk yard. Haveing better tools or supplements doesn’t make you hardcore getting real results does.

Surge Workout Fuel had horrible marketing and really did say this type of stuff and saying you need it. You don’t need anything that anyone is selling you to accomplish anything.

BUT, the marketing for ANACONDA at first glance doesn’t look as bad to me.

However there is no possible getting around that this statement

“Nonetheless, as discussed in the article, it’s not for everyone. It doesn’t make sense to use such an extreme supplement protocol if you’re not super serious about training and already doing everything else correctly”

IMPLYs that you are less dedicated if you do not take this supplement.

But really this is nothing new. Don’t be so upset. Have more confidence in yourself. This is advertising look around you shampoo to prey on insecurity in appereance Diamonds to pray in insecurity of not being good enough for your girlfreind. And this to prey on your insecurity that you are not dedicated or hardcore. Remember businesses want money that this the goal of business.

I know I am dedicated so this doesn’t make me want the product more or rebel against the product.
Get rid of your insecuritys and it will not bother you.

But on the other hand if it bothers you because you do not like the idea of a business manipulating people based on there insecurities and fears boycott the company.

This all being said I use Surge Recovery during times of hard training and it worked great. And this looks like a good product and i’ll use it when I have money to spare.

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Nope. Like I said, that was all calculated assuming you used the products only for workout nutrition. If you were to buy the package every month, you’d get $35 savings, but would stockpile MAG-10 and Alpha-GPC and Nalgene bottles, so at some point you’d have to start purchasing the ANACONDA and FINiBARs on their own to use with your stockpile, so you’d be doing it that same way I calculated originally.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
BlakedaMan, did you ever subtract the $35 savings off from the protocol?[/quote]

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[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
Nope. Like I said, that was all calculated assuming you used the products only for workout nutrition. If you were to buy the package every month, you’d get $35 savings, but would stockpile MAG-10 and Alpha-GPC and Nalgene bottles, so at some point you’d have to start purchasing the ANACONDA and FINiBARs on their own to use with your stockpile, so you’d be doing it that same way I calculated originally.

PB Andy wrote:
BlakedaMan, did you ever subtract the $35 savings off from the protocol?

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Ah ok, I see what you mean. Yeah I don’t intend to use MAG-10 for pulsing purposes for Alpha-GPC for sleep so… :slight_smile: money saved.