Anaconda Protocol Common Sense?

Nutrition
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[quote]cobrakai wrote:

The rationale that you guys are proposing is that everyone should take a few peoples word? This isn’t the Oprah Winfrey Book Club. “Mein Kampf…The Newest Oprah Book Club Selection” Take Oprah’s word for it.

This is a serious and relevant question.
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No… no it’s not. If you can’t get through a post without referencing Hitler then it’s not serious.

For one thing, you seem to assume that the supplement is going to give you 20 pounds of muscle. Have you considered that maybe the training has something to do with it?

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I think the question is whether or not ANACONDA’s price is enough to justify it over something like peri-workout BCAA, which is time-tested.

I’m willing to give it a shot, but I don’t think I’ll buy the “protocol,” simply because I know my body pretty well and 3 FINiBARs just sounds like overkill. ANACONDA and waxy maize does sound like a winning combination though, so we’ll see how it goes. I’d also like to try WOF with the MAG-10 protein (since there would be some overlap between ANACONDA’s ingredients).

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You have a price for everything, here we talk about a really advanced product for really advanced people.

You aren’t close to be there well just leave it for others and keep your mouth shut.
If you think it’s not for you well just don’t buy it,we don’t really get a shit of what you do. Keep your energy at the gym cobra.

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X, do you have any knowledge of whether or not they will be releasing the flavoring system as a stand alone product? I asked in the main disucssion thread, but I think it was over looked.

I know many people (not myself, but others) who hate dieting and drinking water all day. They’d much rather have something with flavor. The flavoring system would help out. Also, I have tons of unflavored bulk whey protein that is dying for some flavor. I know they said the water bottle would be available next week, which is cool. Also, what flavors have you tried and preferred?

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[quote]cobrakai wrote:

Is it me, or does the campaign and marketing for this whole Anaconda Protocol/I Bodybuilder make no fricken sense at all? Who does your marketing? The same people who promoted the Michael Vick Dog Fights? I mean seriously, look at the facts.

All customers want is to see real world guinea pigs go through the protocol and see some before/after pics. No one in their right mind can simply go off of heresay. I’m talking “real world” people. The client base that you want to buy the Anaconda Protocol. All you’re doing is shoving out a product and have NOTHING substantial to back up your claims. Or am I wrong here? Are there some before/after photo’s of guys that were giving the Anaconda for free, told what to do with it and now have this 20lbs of new muscle to show on their bodies? Where are these pics TC? Biotest? Anyone.

The rationale that you guys are proposing is that everyone should take a few peoples word? This isn’t the Oprah Winfrey Book Club. “Mein Kampf…The Newest Oprah Book Club Selection” Take Oprah’s word for it.

This is a serious and relevant question.
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So, what is it that doesn’t make sense?

A company makes a claim, promotes a product, and people make a decision as to whether or not they want to buy it.

It’s that simple.

Given my experience with their products, I believe in the integrity of this company. I have had good experiences with their products, and no reason to believe that they would not do as described when used as directed.

Now couple this with the difficulty of eliciting a training response from people who have essentially reached an apex in ability realize gains, and you really do have something to behold when you consider who is using this and seeing gains from it.

It’s not necessarily that the proposition that they have put forth does not make any sense, but more realistically, you just don’t know what you are looking at.

As Biotests has stated in the past, and more than likely has with this one- If what they are describing is not what you are looking for, then this product is not for you.

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[quote]ksommer wrote:
I think the question is whether or not ANACONDA’s price is enough to justify it over something like peri-workout BCAA, which is time-tested.

I’m willing to give it a shot, but I don’t think I’ll buy the “protocol,” simply because I know my body pretty well and 3 FINiBARs just sounds like overkill. ANACONDA and waxy maize does sound like a winning combination though, so we’ll see how it goes. I’d also like to try WOF with the MAG-10 protein (since there would be some overlap between ANACONDA’s ingredients).[/quote]

Exactly, people should see what they can afford and are willing to spend rather than bitching about the price. Personally,when/if I buy Anaconda I plan to replace MAG-10 with pepto pro and leucine. It may not be as good as MAG-10 but it’s cheaper.

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I realize where everyone is coming from here. It all makes sense, but is it the best choice to think this way or not? Who knows.

What I am getting at is, the people who feel secure and trust the protocol and have PURCHASED it, will be the marketing for anyone and everyone who needs to see real world results. Let us do the advertisments. No one should complain about buying it or not buying it for whatever cause. It’s a supplement, if you can’t afford a 52inch Flatscreen TV but really beleive it’d be better then your black and white 22inch box tv, then so be it. We all realize that there is a possibility that this product is worth the squeeze as you are all wondering… Just as there is a possibility that it isn’t!

Who knows, who cares! We will find out! I for one will post all of my results up for everyone and anyone interested.

We don’t care if you can and can’t afford it, or if you want to or don’t want to buy it. That’s not up to us (us being the customers who have purchased the protocol). We do not blame anyone, nor do we look down on anyone. Who cares?

Let us do the research for anyone who needs to see back up. Until then, that’s all that can be done.

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if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?

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[quote]cobrakai wrote:
if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?[/quote]

If you don’t like the supplement and the company that makes it, don’t join the site. How hard is that?

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I would say absolutely the research bears out PeptoPro being more effective than BCAAs peri-workout. BCAAs are three amino acids that are very insulinogenic (read: anti-catabolic). PeptoPro contains all twenty amino acids – say it with me – WHICH IS NEEDED FOR (NEW) MUSCLE SYNTHESIS, and is also VERY insulinogenic (perhaps more so than BCAAs). You quite simply cannot grow new muscle with BCAAs, despite what the bros say. It would be like me asking you to write a coherent essay only using three letters.

I’m currently involved with a different company and we have two PeptoPro products of our own, and we’ve been working with DSM (the manufacturer of PeptoPro) for some time; I have been using PeptoPro for some time. I will be purchasing MAG-10 and ANACONDA because I don’t mind supporting Biotest and one of our products is in pill form and I grow tired of mega-dosing pills.

If you buy it or if you don’t, I personally don’t care (in fact, I have vested interest elsewhere), but please know that the science is ABSOLUTELY in PeptoPro’s (and therefore, Biotest’s) corner. The stuff works and will be the mainstay in five years.

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[quote]chimera182 wrote:
cobrakai wrote:
if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?

If you don’t like the supplement and the company that makes it, don’t join the site. How hard is that?[/quote]

Who said I don’t like the site or company? I’m a huge Denver Broncos fan but that doesn’t mean I don’t get pissed at the coach or team for playing crappy. I mean we just had a 4 game losing streak but I’m still and always will be a fan.

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[quote]cobrakai wrote:
if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?[/quote]

Nah, I’d rather point out your ignorance cuz I’m bored. I hurt my back doing deads last night and don’t want to move a whole lot today. It feels like my tail bone has been ripped from my spine and there are just a few tattered strands of muscle holding my ribcage to my ass.

So now you’re stuck with me.

Do me a favor, will ya?

Document for us your experience with all of their other products you have used.

Give us the dosing protocols and lifting regiments you were using while on them, and finish with the results you achieved in the process.

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[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
ebomb5522 wrote:
Do some research, there may not have been before and after pictures, but look on elitefts and the progress many of their powerlifters have said they have gotten since starting the Anaconda protocol. Check out defrancostraining.com and the reviews they have given Anaconda. I am in no way going to make any judgements on it until I try it, but these guys are “real” people and have had great things to say about it.

Elite and Defrancos have business ties with Biotest… In my opinion Professor X and Stu are no longer credible when it comes to reviews on this supplement as well for the fact that they have established such an intimate relationship with the company.[/quote]

So let’s see:

You insist that the product should have been tried by others first.

But if anyone does try it, then their ties to Biotest are too close and what they say should therefore be ignored.

As Goldmember would say: “There is no pleasing you then.”

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Professor X wrote:

You seem to be on some type of crusade to point out faults of advertisement as far as this product.

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I’m actually not on a crusade to prove false advertisement. I’m actually just trying to comprehend who would pay for this protocol. And while like you said most here shouldn’t be using it, I wanted your opinion as it relates to someone is seems more serious than anyone on here about their quest for muscle.
You seem to tip toe and dodge the actual questions here and put it back on other people.

Bottom line- do you have faith in this protocol for the amount of money it requires. That’s all[/quote]

I don’t even use their exact protocol. I have already written what I am doing and no, I’m not writing it again because as you say, I am apparently tip toeing around shit that I’ve already answered weeks ago.

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[quote]cobrakai wrote:
if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?[/quote]

A financial investment into a product and reading information posted on a public forum are two entirely different things, mate.

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U should try acai berries bro, the before/afters are pretty sweet

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I have never seen this much complaining because someone can’t afford something. If I couldn’t afford it, I wouldn’t be making posts about it. I would simply not buy it. Why the hell is this more complicated than that?

I thought that is what capitalism was all about?

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[quote]chimera182 wrote:
cobrakai wrote:
if you don’t like the thread don’t read it gees. How hard is that?

If you don’t like the supplement and the company that makes it, don’t join the site. How hard is that?[/quote]

If you dont like the new products or the products of the site, then dont buy them, there are level 0 people here for a reason, they dont like the products. Its a business site, and a place to learn.

I belive that if you use the products and use the GOOD info that people give on this site, your going to get bigger and stronger. Its no secret that the products are good, you just have to find the ones that you want to use, and give them a try.

I know that I wont be using the ANACONDA because I just don’t have 80 bucks to put into a month’s worth of a supplement. But I will keep buying Alpha-GPC, Grow! Whey, and Metabolic Drive. They are great products and a very reasonable price

If you don’t like the product(s) then don’t buy them, its not that big of a deal

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Thanks PX- I ask, because I respect your opinion and you are in no way affiliated with the company. That is all,

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haha nice one chimera. owned cobra…owned.