There’s a sharp cutoff point on these. 170 I can do a triple, but at 175 a single is tough.
Comes off the shoulders really well, and the lockout is what takes the most time.
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How 'bout cutting one of the warm up sets out, warm the tris up with some cable pushdowns first, perhaps do 145 for 3, then 165 for 3 to get the CNS going and then right to the working sets… bet you will get a few more reps at 175 or heavier. Just thinking outside the box here.
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Yeah - I just kinda launched myself at them. A different warm up process might have left me with better results. I’m not displeased by any means, however. I think that I might be hitting my old PR (which had the weight coming from full extension before the press) pretty soon from the bottom up.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Strong work skid. I am also 6’ even, but I was blessed (cursed) with a long torso supporting a large belly, with short legs and little t-rex arms. Great leverages for squat and bench, pretty painful for deadlift.
All Hail the Magic Marching Powder![/quote]
I didn’t actually use it for that workout, interestingly enough. I wanted to try it without. That workout took me 2.5 hours. With the MMP I could have shaved about 45 minutes off of that. Needed longer rest periods between sets and exercises.
hell, if I had the MMP, I would save it for nights of debauchery with the wife (or neighbor’s wife, or both) rather than waste it in the weight room.
My workouts are running real long these days too. I’m strongly considering acting cool and trying the 531. Wendler says he does it consistently in 30 - 40 minutes, and since I train on my lunch break, I’m worried about taking too long. On the other hand, sometimes it just takes as long as it takes.
I don’t know what to do. better check on the neighor’s wife for him. she may be in need of “comforting”.
OL
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
MJ You might do ok with the neighbors wife…
you’re in utah.
My workouts are taking too long too.
bigger wieights always mean bigger rest periods.
Legs I will blast through. But pulling takes quite a while.
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Too long is relative. A training session takes as long as it takes. That said however I think a lot of the success of 5/3/1 lies in that you are severely limiting the workload, so the chance of over-reaching is reduced. Most of us don’t stop until we are feeling fatigued, but to stimulate muscle growth doesn’t even require that amount of work.
When I was doing my Steve Justa inspired workouts (it’s a clustered singles program), I never felt tired at any point during the workout or after. But I grew and got stronger like crazy. Never took longer than 45 minutes.
that’s pretty accurate.
If I feel like crap I cut it short.
If im doing non explosive stuff, I go until the whole list is checked off.
I dont really believe in over training as opposed to de-conditioned. but there is a point of diminishing return
kmc
This doesn’t look like much but by set three of sumos my ass and hams were pumped to the point I almost couldn’t bend from the hips without being weighted.
Took me a while to get my hips loose enough to get them out for sumos to begin with. I’ll need to put a small plate or two on the inside next time. I can’t get my feet wide enough without being in danger of setting the plates down on them. Makes me put my hips high.
RDLs felt light@295 so I boosted by 20 and they felt just right. Lowered slowly, raised explosively. Turned my toes in slightly.
Camera battery was dead. I forgot to check it before I left for the gym.
Camera battery was dead. I forgot to check it before I left for the gym.
No vids? It never happened…
How did those Sumo DL to the knees feel? kinda incomplete without the lockout?[/quote]
Not you too?
They felt way weird not completing the movement. You also get to rest for a moment at the top when doing full range, which I never noticed before until I didn’t get to. You spend a lot of time trying to break that bar off the floor so it was pretty tiring. And resetting at the bottom is not really a rest…
In other words, they’re really good for what you want them to do.
Sounds hard, but strong work. I switched back to conventional for that reason. i can’t get my feet out wide enough. I am thinking about buying a long bar from Elite or something and just taking it into the gym with me. paint it pink so everyone knows that it belongs to the “big fat queer with the pink bar”.
keep up the strong work. the world will soon be yours. or something 8*)
OL
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Sounds hard, but strong work. I switched back to conventional for that reason. i can’t get my feet out wide enough. I am thinking about buying a long bar from Elite or something and just taking it into the gym with me. paint it pink so everyone knows that it belongs to the “big fat queer with the pink bar”.
keep up the strong work. the world will soon be yours. or something 8*)
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Or maybe just pants loose in the waist and tight in the seat…
I’m just going to put a pair of 25’s on the inside before loading 45’s. That’ll give me an extra 8 inches, which every man can use no doubt.
Sumos are incredibly flexible. They all pretty much have to be able to do the splits. One friend who was a sumo told me that, in the beginning all the other wrestlers in the stable would pile onto him to force him to do a split. After a week or two of that kind of painful training, he one day heard a ripping sound like you describe, and voila! He could do them no problem.
[quote]sfp wrote:
Sumos are incredibly flexible. They all pretty much have to be able to do the splits. One friend who was a sumo told me that, in the beginning all the other wrestlers in the stable would pile onto him to force him to do a split. After a week or two of that kind of painful training, he one day heard a ripping sound like you describe, and voila! He could do them no problem.
Apparently I set a California squat record in in the APA in the 45-49, 181 pound, Equipped or RAW, 6 foot, blond, farsighted, WASP class at my first competition last September.
Field looks pretty open, actually. I could have taken the Open class Raw record too had I been entered. That says Raw California lifters in this fed suck. at least in my weight class, anyway.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
Apparently I set a California squat record in in the APA in the 45-49, 181 pound, Equipped or RAW, 6 foot, blond, farsighted, WASP class at my first competition last September.
Field looks pretty open, actually. I could have taken the Open class Raw record too had I been entered. That says Raw California lifters in this fed suck. at least in my weight class, anyway.[/quote]
Looks like you’ll have to set the Bar really high. Set the Skidmark standard.
